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Old 01-21-2009, 05:19 PM
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<div id="ad-desc">My friend found this job posting on Kijiji:
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Hello,

I run a small bill collection
service as an independent contractor and would like to expand so I can provide
more effective services to my clients. I am looking for a contact that is
willing to work with me and be my link in the collection of bill
payments.

The bill payments will be sent by Electronic payment service or
courier services to you.

This will also broaden your horizons in learning
different things.Since the collection process will be via Electronic Service and
Mail Service.I am offering a weekly pay of $500 for all transactions processed
weekly.

For more information as regards The Part-Time Job Offer please
contact me.

Very Respectfully
Poster's Name
Poster's email
(I edited out the email and name in case its not a scam, otherwise I'll change it back to normal)

He told the man he was very interested via email, then the guy responded and told him he was hired and cheques were on their way. I told my buddy (who is my business partner) to be very, very wary, because it sounded way too good to be true.

We found more information about scams similar to this here:
http://www.svbizlaw.com/check_clearing.htm
http://www.consumerfraudreporting.org/checkcashingscams.php
http://www.fakechecks.org/prevention-faqs03.html

So, he's going to wait to see if he gets the cheques, warn his bank about it, then if they allow it he will cash them and see if they bounce before doing anything.

Too bad, would've been essentially being paid 100$/hour for walking to the bank and cashing some cheques ;P.

Any thoughts on this?

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Old 01-21-2009, 05:22 PM
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There are so many of these things about at the moment.

Clearly something is wrong here.
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Old 01-21-2009, 06:17 PM
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Oh, it's absolutely a scam. He shouldn't even put those checks in his bank. Never EVER do company business with your own bank account. That is ALWAYS, 100% of the time, a scam. There is no way to win with a deal like this. Your friend could even be prosecuted for participating.
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:44 PM
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Oh, it's absolutely a scam. He shouldn't even put those checks in his
bank. Never EVER do company business with your own bank account. That
is ALWAYS, 100% of the time, a scam. There is no way to win with a
deal like this. Your friend could even be prosecuted for
participating.
Wow. Didn't know that ;P. The idea was that he'd talk to his bank about it first, and he could cooperate to help pinpoint where this scammer is trying to get the money to.

Quote:
There are so many of these things about at the moment.



Clearly something is wrong here.
Well, J was explaining to me what he would be doing... this is what the guy replied to his application:

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Dear Representative

Thank you so much for replying my email.

I run a small bill collection service as an independent contractor and would
like to expand so I can provide more effective services to my clients to
prevent
any unwanted surprises.

Basically what we would be doing together is collect premium for insurance
agents, donations, debt settlements, etc from my client's
customers,it would
only take few days in getting the bills via courier service at your door
step.

Mail Payment is via courier service and delivered to you at your Mailing
address.The
Payments are usually in checks and drafts and range from $2500 to
$8500

It normally takes 1-3 business days to process the bill payments. You will
disburse the funds available as directed to the concerned
client,agent,who work

as
(Cabin Crew &amp; Flight Attendant ) whom we have collected the premium
for.

You will take the payment which would be issued on your name to the bank and
deposit it.It takes 1-3days to clear.Once it clears you take $500 and send the
rest via money transfer to my client.

The job is not time consuming; just for six (5) hours in a week.
Outline
1 Receive mail-Payments in Checks and Drafts at your address.
2
Have it processed at the bank.*Deposit*
3 Once it clears your Bank,make funds
available to the information provided
4 Close of transaction

Please, to facilitate the conclusion of this job offer if accepted, do send
us promptly by e-mail the following:
(1) Your full names:
(2) Full contact address,city,state,zipcode
(3)
Home/office phone:
(4) Occupation:
(5) Age:
(6) Bank name:

Very Respectfully
Poster's Name
Then, when my friend sent him the info, he then replied (within 1 day):
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</t><t></t><table width="473" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="272">
<t><tr>
<td valign="top">Dear Representative,

This is to confirm that you have been
employed as my business associate in collection of premium for insurance agents,
donations, debt settlements, etc from my client's
customers.You will be
entitled to $500 on all payment processed weekly which is paid instantly after
cash received from premium Bills Payment.You will be notify via
email
immediately there's premium (Bill Paycheck) in your name to your
address via mail service.

Very Respectfully
Poster's Name
</td></tr></t></table>
Hmm.. he actually didn't call him by his name. Weird. Also, I applied for the position yesterday and haven't heard back. I found this strange in two ways.

1) If it was a legit job offer (which I highly doubt it is), he should've replied saying his positions are filled, or taken off the job posting.
2)If he was a scammer, he should be trying to get as many people as possible doing this at once ;P.

I told J from day one that it was sounding way too good, and to be extra careful. I was explaining to him just earlier today that he's paying 100$/hour for something that requires no training, that anyone can do, and anyone would kill to have a job like this.

If this was legit, he'd be making as much money as my friend working a full time job at 14,50$/h. Insane.

He should be receiving the checks tommorrow...

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Old 01-21-2009, 08:10 PM
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This is a SCAM! Your friend should absolutely NOT put any checks in his account - no matter what he says to his bank. It could be interpreted as him participating in the fraud.

I would run far far away from this.

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Old 01-21-2009, 08:27 PM
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This is a SCAM! Your friend should absolutely NOT put any checks in his
account - no matter what he says to his bank. It could be interpreted
as him participating in the fraud.

I would run far far away from this.
My friend can run really fast, he has good boots .

I'll make sure to tell him though.
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Old 01-21-2009, 08:38 PM
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I would definitely run far away from this as well!

A couple months ago, I had a telephone call from someone overseas - yes, a TELEPHONE CALL. There was an operator/translater because the caller was allegedly deaf ... he started to explain the same "job offer" with the same exact details. Before he even finished, the operator/translater said "Ma'am, I'm disconnecting this call - this is ILLEGAL!" and IMMEDIATELY disconnected the call.

Yes, your friend could be prosecuted for this. His bank may be "going along" until he tries to make a deposit ... they won't do anything until they have actual "evidence" (the deposit of those funds).

Need I say anything further?

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Old 01-21-2009, 08:48 PM
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No, I think I was already convinced before I even posted it . Just wanted to know what everyone else thought.

Lately I've been getting a call almost every day or two with the most random phone numbers... some are even 000-0000-0000.

"This is your Captain Speaking! *Very loud noise of a horn blowing* If you would like to claim your free trip"...

Yeah right.

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Old 01-21-2009, 08:50 PM
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It's unbelievable how long this type of scam has been circulating the net.[img]smileys/smiley11.gif[/img] Makes me wonder how many have unfortunately fallen for it.
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