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Old 05-29-2007, 02:48 PM
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Yogi, I am happy to send you the info but could you pm me your email addy? I have all the info in a pdf file.

Thanks!

Edited to say that itis not the exact same, it just very very similar to the 9 day program and will save you a lot of money. It equals out to be about $12 per cleanse after you buythe stuff you need for it.Edited by: raynasmom
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Old 05-29-2007, 04:40 PM
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Hi Meg,

I'd like to get the information too, please?

If you are comparing it to "I" and purporting it to be "similar but cheaper", as someone whose livelihood is this program, I'd like to get the details.

If the program is only similar in the time frame, I don't think the comparison is a fair claim to make- especially when you are claiming it is "very, very simliar".

Does the program include 240+ nutrients and trace minerals? Is it organic and all-natural? Does it include live digestive enzymes, adaptogens, probiotics?
Is it monitored by a panel of medical professionals? Does it replace 68 meals with 100% of the nutrition required by the body? Undenatured whey protein? Natural accelerators? Blood sugar regulation? Money back guarantee?

Is there a list of ingredients in the pdf that you have?
Please email to [email protected]

Thanks!

To your best health,
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Old 05-29-2007, 04:59 PM
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Kitt, It is very very similar in that it contains all the same ingredients plus more of what the Isagenix cleansefor lifedrink contains. I will email you the info and let you know how you can compare the nutritional information.Edited by: raynasmom
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Old 05-29-2007, 05:36 PM
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All I know about cleanses right now is the Mastercleanse. I did it for 15 days and it's been a week since I've been off it. I MISS IT!!!

I do have a friend who loves the Isagenix cleanse.

I like how that yearlong detox looks!! I'm going to copy and paste it so I don't lose it. Thanks Vilma!


----------------------------------------------------------------

In regards to the following post:

http://www.wahm.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=334021

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</font>I found this Word
Document in my Nutrition Folder &amp; wanted to share... I

For
those of you who like to Cleanse &amp; Detox</span>, here is a year</span> long
program that you can follow. Remember to get your doctor's ok before
starting anything new &amp; as always, keep up the clean and healthy
eating.

=======================================



SAMPLE</span> YEAR</span>-LONG DETOX</span>
PROGRAM</span>
</span>

Spring</span>

For 7-21 days between March 10 and April 15, use one or more of the following
plans: </span>

<ul><li style="color: black; line-height: 10pt;">Master Cleanser (lemonade
diet). [img]smileys/smiley20.gif[/img] </span><li style="color: black; line-height: 10pt;">Fruits, vegetables, greens. </span><li style="color: black; line-height: 10pt;">Juices of fruits, vegetables,
and greens. </span><li style="color: black; line-height: 10pt;">Herbs with any of the above. </span><li style="color: black; line-height: 10pt;">These plans can be alternated
and even include a 3-5 day supervised water fast. </span><li style="color: black; line-height: 10pt;">Remember to take time (about
half as long as the fast) for the transition back to the regular diet. </span><li style="color: black; line-height: 10pt;">Elimination and food testing
can also be done at this time. </span>[/list]
Mid-Spring</span> </span></span>

3-day cleanse at new moon time in May as a reminder and
enhancer of food awareness.
</span></span></span>

Summer</span>

One week of fruits and vegetables and/or fresh juices to
usher in the warm weather sometime between June 10 and July 4.
</span></span></span>

Late Summer</span> </span>

3-day cleanse of fruit and vegetable juices around the
new moon time in August.
</span></span></span>

Autumn</span> </span>

7-10 day cleanse between September 11 and October 5, such
as: </span></span>

<ul><li style="line-height: 10pt;">Grape fast--whole
and juiced--grapes, all fresh. </span><li style="color: black; line-height: 10pt;">Apple and lemon juice together,
diluted. </span><li style="color: black; line-height: 10pt;">Fresh fruits and vegetables,
raw and cooked. </span><li style="color: black; line-height: 10pt;">Fruit and vegetable
juices--fruit in the morning, vegetables in the afternoon. </span><li style="color: black; line-height: 10pt;">Juices plus spirulina, algae,
or other green chlorophyll powders. </span><li style="color: black; line-height: 10pt;">Whole grains, cooked squashes
and other vegetables (a lighter detox</span>). </span><li style="color: black; line-height: 10pt;">Mixture of the above plans. </span><li style="color: black; line-height: 10pt;">Basic low-toxicity diet with
herbal program. </span><li style="color: black; line-height: 10pt;"><st1lace w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Colon</span></st1:city></st1lace> detox</span> with fiber (psyllium, pectin, and so on) along
with enemas or colonics. </span><li style="color: black; line-height: 10pt;">Preparing and planning new
autumn diet, enhancing positive dietary habits. </span>[/list]
Mid-Autumn</span> </span></span>

3-day cleanse on juices or in-season produce around new
moon in late October/early November.</span></span></span>

Winter</span>

A lighter diet in preparation for the holidays (can be
done between December 10 and January 5): </span></span>

<ul><li style="line-height: 10pt;">Avoidance of toxins
and treats, with a very basic wholesome diet. </span><li style="color: black; line-height: 10pt;">One week of brown rice, cooked vegetables,
miso broth, and seaweed. Ginger and cayenne pepper can be used in soups. </span><li style="color: black; line-height: 10pt;">Saunas or steams and
massage--you deserve it! </span><li style="color: black; line-height: 10pt;">Hang on until spring! </span>[/list]


========================================

God Bless,

~ Vilma</font></font>


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Old 05-29-2007, 06:21 PM
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No problemo Pascale!

By the way... THANK YOU for posting a comment on my blog! [img]smileys/smiley31.gif[/img]

~ Vilma

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Old 05-29-2007, 08:05 PM
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I did the Dr. Natura cleanse for one month. I really didn't see any big improvements in my health, but it was easy. I have also tried the Isagenix, but only made it halfway. I tried during a very stressful time of my life and couldn't handle it! But I find the Isa shake very yummy!

Angie
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Old 05-30-2007, 04:48 AM
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I'd like to hear about this cleanse also! I had great luck w/ 'I' last summer. If something works as good and tastes as good and is cheaper, I'm in!
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:39 AM
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Meg &amp; All,

This program has very very little in common with "I" other than the fact that it is 9 days.

It has no protein. ZERO protein. When starved of protein for any length of time, the body begins to cannibalize lean muscle.

There is a lot of sugar in this program. Basically, the "cleanse" consists of depriving your system of protein and nutrition while consuming sugar and some vitamins.

The developer has taken copyrighted material from "I" and is using this in the pdf, as well as making dangerous and fraudulent claims.

Caveat Emptor!

--Kitt
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Old 05-30-2007, 07:23 AM
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Someone sent me a copy to look over. I will say that it would NOT be a cleanse that I would choose to do, but technically it does have protein. With the "shakes" that is used, there's about 10 grams of protein per shake, which only = 20 grams per day, so for the healthy meal, you'd have to make sure to eat a good source of protein. BUT you are right - those shakes are loaded with sugar and I believe they also contain aspartame
And on the 4 cleansing and fasting days (I think there are 4), I guess you could get a little protein from the juice you use to mix the powder, but again, it wouldn't be too much because most veggie and/or fruit juices aren't a good source of protein. But when someone is fasting, they're usually not worried about that, are they? I'm asking honestly because I don't know - I've never fasted.
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Old 05-30-2007, 07:33 AM
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Cleansing and fasting are different. This is NOT afast. IMHO it is worse. At least in a fast your system can shut down and rest.
But where do you get the 10 g of protein per shake from? Vitamin powder has zero and Slimfast Optima has 2g???

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