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Old 09-09-2008, 09:20 AM
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I don't think that the people of IL mind that he is doing his thing. They understand which is probably why he got all the vote during the convention instead of some voting for Hilary. It's nice to see McCain in the senate voting his heart away also.

How long did her selection process take. Was it two days or one. I can't remember.
Maybe like in MA there was a feeling if he got elected they'd get someone in the Senate who actually was there to do the job?
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:23 AM
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:29 AM
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About Obama and speech writing.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/ar...837368,00.html



Barack Obama is usually the candidate who begs his staff to let him
take one more question at every event, but this week he hasn't been a
man to linger. Even though his public schedule was relatively light,
behind the scenes he was racing his own internal clock to finish what
is the most important speech of his career.



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Four years ago Obama spent months
writing the convention speech that would catapult him onto the national
stage. Even though he was busy with his day job in the Illinois State
Senate and was running for the U.S. Senate, Obama would find time to
scribble thoughts, often sneaking off the State Senate floor to the
men's room to jot down ideas, or writing in the car as he campaigned
across southern Illinois. It took him months to gather all those
fleeting ideas and craft his acclaimed keynote speech.




This time around, Obama has been a tad busier and hasn't had the
luxury of time. "The difference here is, you know, he's got a few other
things going," Obama's top strategist David Axelrod told reporters
Wednesday on Obama's flight into Denver. "It's hard to find the quality
time to do this." The first draft wasn't finished until last week, and
as of Wednesday his staff couldn't say how long the speech was running
or when it might be finished. The looming deadline has led to a lot of
late nights and bleary-eyed mornings for Obama, who instead of
practicing delivery has been focused on the writing, even during his
walk-through of Invesco Field Wednesday night.




The toughest aspect of writing a speech isn't so much the rhetoric,
it's the ideas—which take time to incubate and develop, says Andrei
Cherny, editor of the journal Democracy and a former White
House speechwriter under Clinton. "The hardest part about writing a
speech like this is not the mechanics of it but what you want to say
and how you're going to say it, the strategy of it," Cherny says. For a
speech of this magnitude it's not uncommon for politicians and their
staffs to work on language for months, going into double-digit drafts,
according to Cherny.




Obama takes an unusually hands-on approach to his speech writing,
more so than most politicians. His best writing time comes late at
night when he's all alone, scribbling on yellow legal pads. He then
logs these thoughts into his laptop, editing as he goes along. This is
how he wrote both of his two best selling books—Dreams from My Father and The Audacity of Hope—staying
up after Michelle and his two young daughters had long gone to bed,
reveling in the late night quiet. For this speech Obama removed himself
from the distractions at home and spent many nights in a room in the
Park Hyatt Hotel in Chicago. These late-night sessions produced long,
meandering texts that were then circulated to a close group of
advisers, including Axelrod and Obama's speechwriter Jon Favreau—a
27-year-old wunderkind wordsmith. "When you're working with Senator
Obama the main player on a speech is Senator Obama," Axelrod said. "He
is the best speechwriter in the group and he knows what he wants to say
and he generally says it better than anybody else would."




The time constraint may have led Obama to sacrifice his famed
rhetorical flourishes for cold, hard facts. He told reporters in
Illinois earlier this week that he isn't aiming for the polished,
soaring language that is his hallmark, but rather a more nuts and bolts
dissection of the choice voters face. "This is going to be a more
workmanlike speech. I'm not aiming for a lot of high rhetoric, I'm much
more concerned with communicating how I intend to help middle-class
families live their lives," Obama said. He also did his best to dampen
expectations for a memorable address, telling reporters in Wisconsin,
"I may not be as good as the other headliners the other three nights,
but hopefully it'll make clear the choices the American people are
going to face in November."




Obama knows well the power of a great speech. When his campaign came
under fire before the Pennsylvania primary for controversial statements
by Obama's pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama delivered a historic
speech on race that changed the conversation and stemmed the attacks.
This time around Obama needs to turn the conversation away from
him—where it has lingered the last month, producing worrying poll
numbers for the Democrats—and on to the issues. "This speech and this
election is really not about Barack Obama it's about the American
people," Axelrod said. "It's about the country, it about the direction
that we have to go to get us out of the ditch we're in. He's going to
spend the bulk of his time talking about that."


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Old 09-09-2008, 09:29 AM
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Who cares who wrote what, her accomplishments are FACT!

Personally, I voted for Bush, and I now regret that decision. So, going into this election I was very depressed and unimpressed. I am tired of all the BS from BOTH parties.

What I am saying is, what seals it for me is tell me what you have done, and not what you're gonna do. The proof is in the pudding so to speak.
And from what I see, hear and read, Obama hasn't done a hell of a lot. Palin on the other hand, has quite a bit to back her words. She's a WORKING politican..not a cardboard cut out that sure, looks head on, but once you look closer, you'll see there's something missing..it's called substance!

I don't give a flip if she graduated Harvard, or went through 6 schools to earn her Bachelors. Frankly, I think we have all met someone inour lives that looks great on paper, but common sense wise couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper sack!

And I don't give a flip that her daughter's pregnant, I am not voting for her daughter.

Frankly, I was voting McCain just to help keep Obama OUT. Now, I feel better about that choice.

I relate to her, and frankly I love the fact that she shows some balls, something I frankly don't think we've seen since Reagan. Which is why I posted Reagan's article

Not back to your regularly scheduled programming....
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:32 AM
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"It's about the country, it about the direction that we have to go to get us out of the ditch we're in. "

Yeah, you think we're in a ditch now...let Obama get in and this will look like the damn Clinton years in comparison!!
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:34 AM
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Umm up thread people were debating who wrote what so obviously someone cares. *snicker*
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I liked the Clinton years except for the adultery
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:37 AM
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I don't think that the people of IL mind that he is doing his thing. They understand which is probably why he got all the vote during the convention instead of some voting for Hilary. It's nice to see McCain in the senate voting his heart away also.

How long did her selection process take. Was it two days or one. I can't remember.

Which would be a nice theory, except for the fact that Hilary released her delegates to vote for him the weekof the convention. Gives the appearance of an unanimous vote.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/27/dnc.main/


Delegates cried and cheered as former rival Sen. Hillary Clinton motioned to cut the roll call vote short, saying "Let's declare together with one voice right here, right now, that Barack Obama is our candidate and he will be our president."
The dramatic move was carefully choreographed to put down any fears of a divided party following the protracted primary battle.
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:46 AM
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Look, Starviolet, I will be the first to say it here. IF Obama gets in and really turns this country around, I will come on here and admit I was so very wrong. I have never had a problem eating crow. But,I don't think he's getting in, so no worries.


Now, I ask you. If McCain gets in and makes a difference in this country, will you show your face here? Somehow, I doubt it..


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I liked the Clinton years except for the adultery
I did vote for Clinton, but he was a dirty, dirty boy.[img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]
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