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View Full Version : Diet soda and Weight gain!?


TheFitDoc
02-20-2008, 07:34 AM
I read about a new study on artificial sweeteners last week that you'll find really interesting.

Researchers gave some rats yogurt sweetened with saccharin and others yogurt sweetened with regular sugar. They let them eat whatever else they felt like eating.

What do you think happened next?

The rats that ate the yogurt with artificial sweetener actually gained MORE weight than the ones who ate the regular, sugar sweetened yogurt!

What gives?


TheFitDoc
02-20-2008, 07:40 AM
About two years ago I was posting back and forth witha guyon a different message board. He was talking about how diet soda is bad for you. I was skeptical. There is a lot of misinformation and bad science surrounding artificial sweeteners. There's no real evidence they cause cancer or hosts of other claims made on the internet.

One thing stood out, however. With the explosion of diet soft drinks on the scene, you'd think there would be a slimming down of our collective waistline. Instead, as we all know, we've gotten nothing but bigger.

Now, there are several causes for the obesity epidemic- increased portion size, increased caloric intake, lower daily activity levels- I won't go into them here. But still, if artificial sweeteners were saving us all these calories each day, why were we all still getting fatter?

Craftgrrl
02-20-2008, 08:02 AM
Kevin,
I sent you a PM, first of all. Secondly, in response to this post:
Nooooooooooo!!! http://www.wahm.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gifWell, I guess I knew it for a while and then you had to go an say it. I had just found a site that listed the beverages that should be consumed, starting with dark teas, water, coffee and a glass of red wine. Wow! It's cool that I can have wine, although I don't really drink it. I wonder if I could substitute tequila for the wine? I'm just joking. But thanks for the post. This one is going to be hard for me. But with summer coming, as I weigh diet sodas in one hand and getting into a nice bathing suit, I wonder which will win? http://www.wahm.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif


jnmurra
02-20-2008, 08:04 AM
I agree! I remember reading a couple of years ago how artificial sweetners cause an increase in appetite, but I don't think at that time that there had been any clinical studies performed.








IMO, there are a lot of reasons why there is an obesity epidemic in this country, but it's all the things you mention - increased portion size, lower activity levels, etc.

ETA: Oh, and I should add - I don't think what is being put in our food helps either. Edited by: jnmurra

missym75
02-20-2008, 09:22 AM
Yes the obesity epidemic is bad. I don't want to state anything incorrect but from what I understand, the food that was served in the 50's was also extremely high in fat and calories but you rarely saw anyone obese. Easy reasons there! Portion sizes for once then were a quarter of what they are now, and there was no such thing as the shopping channel, ebay, grocery gateway, remote controls, etc. You had to actually GET UP and turn the tv off! LOL. Those things add up. I just know that when I was on my honeymoon, took a cruise.. I maintained my weight. I must have consumed a good 4000 calories daily BUT I exercised more than I can ever remember. I swam for 3 hours everyday and walked and walked and walked and danced at night. You can eat more but you have to prepare to work it off if you don't want the lbs adding up. As for diet soda, I agree... it does stimulate your appetite and that is one thing you don't want.

TheFitDoc
02-20-2008, 11:05 AM
Awesome comments!

crftgrrl-
My first response was the same thing. At the surgeons lounge at work there is a fridge constantly stocked with sodas. I felt great about drinking only diet soda instead of the regular stuff. I would go through 4-6 cans a day. Not anymore!!

Those all sound like good substitutes. You could always brew up a big batch of tea and let it cool, then drink it cold. Another great trick is to add a tiny bit of juice to your water- enough to give it flavor, but not so much that you are adding a ton of sugar. I use tart cherry juice. It has a really strong flavor, so you just need a little splash. Try puting it in a martini glass and pretending it's a cosmo!http://www.wahm.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif

jnmurra-
Well said!http://www.wahm.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif

Missym-
Just go to your grandmothers house and look at her china. All the plates, cups, etc were smaller than the oversized ones found at pottery barn today. Similarly, think about old dishwashers. The racks don't even fit many of the new dish and glassware!

I heard a lecture a few months ago where the speaker was talking about the drop in physical activity in our daily lives. She showed a slide of a lazy man's Lazyboy. It was a reclining chair with a remote control. Heaven forbid we exert ourselves by pulling that little lever!!http://www.wahm.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif

TheFitDoc
02-20-2008, 11:05 AM
Awesome comments!

crftgrrl-
My first response was the same thing. At the surgeons lounge at work there is a fridge constantly stocked with sodas. I felt great about drinking only diet soda instead of the regular stuff. I would go through 4-6 cans a day. Not anymore!!

Those all sound like good substitutes. You could always brew up a big batch of tea and let it cool, then drink it cold. Another great trick is to add a tiny bit of juice to your water- enough to give it flavor, but not so much that you are adding a ton of sugar. I use tart cherry juice. It has a really strong flavor, so you just need a little splash. Try puting it in a martini glass and pretending it's a cosmo!http://www.wahm.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif

jnmurra-
Well said!http://www.wahm.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif

Missym-
Just go to your grandmothers house and look at her china. All the plates, cups, etc were smaller than the oversized ones found at pottery barn today. Similarly, think about old dishwashers. The racks don't even fit many of the new dish and glassware!

I heard a lecture a few months ago where the speaker was talking about the drop in physical activity in our daily lives. She showed a slide of a lazy man's Lazyboy. It was a reclining chair with a remote control. Heaven forbid we exert ourselves by pulling that little lever!!http://www.wahm.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif

murphyj
03-13-2008, 12:27 PM
Kevin,

I have been using Xyltol as a sweetner for over a year and walk 2 miles a day and have been drinking a healthy coffee and tea and have lost 30 some pounds and have kept it off, I could never aquire a taste for yogurt so I don't eat it.

Jim

TheFitDoc
03-13-2008, 12:49 PM
Jim

Fantastic!!!smileys/smiley32.gif

I believe skipping artificial sweeteners is one piece of the puzzle. Compared to exercise and eating well, AS are secondary. If I wanted to lose weight and had the choice to exercise or to skip AS, but I couldn't do both, I'd definitely pick the exercise. However, if someone is having trouble with portion control and find they are at a plateau in their weight loss, skipping artificial sweeteners is a great thing to try. smileys/smiley16.gif



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