New articles and content fees

[dpenna]

You know, I have to give a big apology to Clarisse for the hassle I gave her when she publicly humiliated John here. I now know how "in the right" she was! LOL

Diane
P.S. I'm curious to know just how many writers they have now!

[laprincess31]

[QUOTE=debng]I'd send a copy to Writers Weekly and let Angela Hoy have at 'em. [/QUOTE


Point me in the right direction and I am there [img]smileys/smiley4.gif[/img]

[debng]

[QUOTE=laprincess31]

Originally Posted by debng

I'd send a copy to Writers Weekly and let Angela Hoy have at 'em. [/QUOTE


Point me in the right direction and I am there [img]smileys/smiley4.gif[/img]

Writers Weekly

[laprincess31]

[QUOTE=debng]

Originally Posted by laprincess31

Writers Weekly

Thanks! I emailed her!

[CDBContent]

I am a fairly staunch defender of lower per-word rate work. I
personally believe it can be lucrative and enjoyable under the right
circumstances.



What does it tell you when someone like me gives the thumbs down to Articles & Content?



If you are thinking about paying a fee to them every month, think
again. There is plenty of similarly-paying work out there that
won't reqire you pay for the privilege of access.

[Wendy]

I agree. And like Diane mentioned, I'm wondering just how many writers stuck with them and paid the fee, and how many new writers they'll end up gaining in the future? I'd love to be a fly on the wall and observe that. Just nosy. [img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img]

[dlrm425]

Oy vay. I had this email sitting in my box from A & C and I just couldn't let it go .. I had to respond. Here's what I wrote:

John and Emma,
While I was initially interested in your company, I have recently read too many negative reports of your treatment of writers. In addition, I would never pay to work for a company -- it's supposed to be the other way around. Under no circumstances would a writer with respect for him or herself PAY to work for you. You will get the quality of writing you deserve doing business this way. All the good writers either won't apply or will leave (as I know they are doing).





I did take a liberty in suggesting writers are leaving, but that is the impression I got here. Anyhow, I just had to open my big mouth. This is the response I got.



Hello Deb

Must say I found the tone of your mail very disturbing and totally without substance. In particular your slight on our writers.We have over 70 quality writers and editors working with us and in fact the few writers that have left were the poor ones and their membership would have been terminated. Talking about poor writing, I look at your mail and see a pretty bad example of this, you do not need to have your wording this big, pretty childish.We havean excellent reputation with our many clients and in factI would think your words about our writers are pretty shocking and they would find it so.

We are very happy with the writers that are loyal to us and very pleased that they choose to do so after all most of them are earning over $1000 per month. I will say though that even though you choose to mail me in this manner I actually do wish you all the best in your endeavours and hope that the future is prosperous for you.

I would appreciate it if you chose not to reply as I will not seek to continue this communication

Regards
JohnT
www.articlesandcontent.com

Just thought I'd share. This is similar to the responses others have gotten. I have never written for them ... I sent an email of interest right before this whole "pay to work" thing happened, and the email I received back indicated they were interested, but there was now this fee, etc. I have been appalled at the stories coming from this board and made my decision quickly to not pursue this ... but anyway, this company is ridiculous. I really hope they get the quality of work they desire, but if they are this critical to letter writers, I would not want to go anywhere near them!
Deb

[matlee123]

Has anyone noticed that the amount of money the writers are supposedly making continues to grow? In one of the other posted emails from a&c, writers are making $200 each month. Now they make $1,000? With their pay scale, you would have to write 200, 250 word articles at $5 each. That is 50,000 words. Here is their payscale. Does it add up to easy work? [img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]

1. <UL style="MARGIN-TOP: 0in" =disc>
   <LI =Msonormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo1; tab-stops: list 1.0in">Writers Payment Rates (as of Aug 05):
   up to 250 words - $5
   250 - 400 words - $7
   400 - 600 words - $9
   600 - 800 words - $11
   800 - 1000 words - $13</LI>

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[TemlynWriting]

Originally Posted by dlrm425

Oy vay. I had this email sitting in my box from A &amp; C and I just couldn't let it go .. I had to respond. Here's what I wrote:

John and Emma,</font></span>
While I was initially interested in your company, I have recently read too many negative reports of your treatment of writers. In addition, I would never pay to work for a company -- it's supposed to be the other way around. Under no circumstances would a writer with respect for him or herself PAY to work for you. You will get the quality of writing you deserve doing business this way. All the good writers either won't apply or will leave (as I know they are doing). </font></span>





I did take a liberty in suggesting writers are leaving, but that is the impression I got here. Anyhow, I just had to open my big mouth. This is the response I got.



Hello Deb</font>
</font>
Must say I found the tone of your mail very disturbing and totally without substance. In particular your slight on our writers.We have over 70 quality writers and editors working with us</span> and in fact the few writers that have left were the poor ones and their membership would have been terminated. Talking about poor writing, I look at your mail and see a pretty bad example of this, you do not need to have your wording this big, pretty childish.We havean excellent reputation with our many clients and in factI would think your words about our writers are pretty shocking and they would find it so.</font>
</font>
We are very happy with the writers that are loyal to us and very pleased that they choose to do so after all most of them are earning over $1000 per month. I will say though that even though you choose to mail me in this manner I actually do wish you all the best in your endeavours and hope that the future is prosperous for you.</font>
</font>
I would appreciate it if you chose not to reply as I will not seek to continue this communication</font>

Regards
JohnT
</font>www.articlesandcontent.com</font></font>
</font>

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</font>

As a writer and editor I see MANY more glaring errors throughout John's message than I see in yours. I really wonder what kind of "editors" they have working for them.

I also find it disturbing that he chooses to use direct insults, calling your typing childish and such. It's one thing for someone such as yourself to write an e-mail with the tone you did, but it's completely unprofessional for him to respond with the like. A better business practice would be for him to simply respond with something like "I am sorry you feel this way, but this is how we conduct business," rather than insulting inquirers as he does.

This truly is a disturbing business practice.

[Wendy]

Julia, I agree. Pretty soon I expect to see a response like, "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt meeeee....neener neener neener!!! Pfffffffffttttttttttttttt!!!" LMAO


Leisa, I didn't notice that about the money, good catch! [img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]