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Old 01-09-2008, 10:58 AM
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Ok everyone - I have sat back and read all this stuff about my company and first of all feel the need to answer debng whom very unprofessionally invited my thread readers to visit this blog. when you arive at the link you read........
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If you go to the Articles and Content Website
you’ll see they charge clients $10 to $20 for articles. This of course
means the writers aren’t earning very high wages for the majority of
the articles, especially when you consider A&C needs their cut. My
suggestion to them would be to stop making writers pay for their
inability to charge enough for articles.


I don’t care if it’s $10 or $100 no one should have to pay a client for work. It’s wrong, it’s insulting and it’s unethical.------------------

In my defence to all this nonsense lets do the maths....

I charge a base fee of $10 for 1 x 250 word article
most clients I have to give a 12,5% discount just to compete with offshore prices.
I then have to Pay Paypal .75% for using them
I then pay editors to edit every single article
The writer has been getting $5 for this
Then I have to pay for promotion and marketing.

Now do your maths and see what you come up with.

I ask you not to just listen to what you are told and please use your head with reason. I can bring on 70 writers here most of whom have been with us for over 2 years. Why I ask would you listen to ex writers whom mainly could not hack the work and feel bitter.

All I say is if you are interested then make your own mind up. Its fine for people here to say you can get work everywhere without paying fees - If this is the case I wish you well

Anyhow the situation now is that we have taken on 7 writers from this thread and will be closing this offer shortly.

Thank you all for reading and I wish you all well.

Regards
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:32 AM
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EmmaB - It's not the writer's fault you pay editors, offer discounts and pay fees and you shouldn't be penalizing your writers for this. Your administrative costs should be reflected in your quote to the client. The writers shouldn't have to pay a fee to cover this. It's poor business and insulting to writers.
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:37 AM
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Why I ask would you listen to ex writers whom mainly could not hack the work and feel bitter.
Oh believe me, I am not bitter! LMAO *at the assumption* I just realize that the time it took me to research International airlines and airports (because for a month that was all that was available) it wasn't worth it to me when it was 2000 words for $17!

The bottome line is that you posted, someone wanted more information and writers who are happy and still working with A&C were able to comment as am I - who did not have the same experience. I got information to join a second site where I could bid on jobs and that sounded nice except that there were bugs with the registration process and I was getting notices from people who wanted me to bid on their projects but I couldn't reply to any of them, a request for help warranted no fix to the problem.

That is what my $10 got me - no hating, no bitterness just a lesson learned that I am more than happy to share with anyone who asks.
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Why I ask would you listen to ex writers whom mainly could not hack the work and feel bitter.


Also, for the record. I never worked for Articles and Content and have nothing to be bitter about.
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:58 AM
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"Oh believe me, I am not bitter! LMAO *at the assumption* I just realize that the time it took me to research International airlines and airports (because for a month that was all that was available) it wasn't worth it to me when it was 2000 words for $17!"

Gottaluv4, I loved writing the airport articles. I could easily do 2 a day if I wanted to and make $25 for each one. I had a system and a layout worked out for doing these and it made my work go faster. As for research, I found all my information for my layout on one site. It would take me two hours to do a 2000 word airport , which meant for me, I was done that day, because it was just extra income for a day I did not schedule work for.

Since I did this for the month, whenever I did not have anything to do, I made some good money for spending on me and not bills. I paid the $10 and one month made over a couple hundred dollars and I got to go out and shop for computer things I wanted and clothes and a night out with friends.

For $10, I made extra money. If you work on bidding sites, you pay more than that for them to sit and watch the board. I wish I had that job.

RAC takes 12.5% per job. Guru takes 5 to 6%. Eleance, well everyone knows the problems going on with that site now. So $10 a month is not bad considering.

Just my two cents.
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Wow - did EmmaB just call debng "unprofessional?" Now, that is one for the books!
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Paying $10 a month to find work is nonsense, plain and simple. The very idea of paying $120 just to view writing jobs is silly. I can understand needing to cover admin costs. The way to do that is to charge more for the piece being sold to the buyer, not to charge the writer to work for you. And as for competing with overseas people, that would mean writers working for $1.00 an article, or even free. Again, nonsense.


I agree totally with DebNg. And no I am not an ex writer either. I just see insulting offers and nonsense for what it is.

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Wow - did EmmaB just call debng "unprofessional?" Now, that is one for the books!
I've been called worse.[img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img]

I didn't say anything that isn't true. The writers aren't being paid very much money and they shouldn't have to be responsible for administrative costs. Even temp and employment agencies don't charge their workers - it's reflected in their clients' fees. If A&C are charging too many discounts and have too many expenses, they need to raise their rates, not charge their writers. It's not the writer's fault. This is terribly unfair.

Bottom line, do what you feel is best for you but you can get better, higher paying work without having to pay fees if you wish. Just don't let anyone convince you you can't do better.
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For the most part I stay out of these debates b/c I think all of us have different motivations and different goals for our writing. To me this means what works for one person may not be the answer for someone else and vice versa. There is one statement here that's got me thinking, though. Inkwell said:
"Paying $10 a month to find work is nonsense, plain and simple."

When I read this I started thinking about the amount of time some of us put into finding work. Granted, it may be annoying to think of putting money in someone else's pocket for the "honor" of being employed by them. However, if you put a dollar value on your time, and find that you are spending more than $10 worth of your time to get jobs comparable to the one offered here, you may be better off just paying the $10. Just a thought.

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If they were smart, and it's obvious they're not, they would take one dollar out of every article and pay the writers $22, instead of $23. As it is, they stand to lose good writers because a monthly fee makes them look like shysters. Poor marketing. To me, that sends up a red flag. If they can't be trusted to make good business decisions...and the pay is dreadfully low...they'll continue to suck in some desperate writers for awhile until they move on to better gigs and, in the long run, their silly concept will be their undoing.

Just my two cents.

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