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Old 10-08-2008, 09:44 AM
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I say just reapply whether they say you can or not. It seems like they are inconsistent and though they may not have specifically invited you back that may not mean they don't want you back.

BUT at the same time, you can't count on being rehired (unfortunately) so in the mean time look for other work and then if you find something you can juggle both or choose which one works best for you.
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Old 10-08-2008, 10:16 AM
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Tootie -

I posted the other day, wondering the same thing, but I have an update

I just got my year-end notice today. I started testing on 10/1/07, and started rating on 10/22/07. My notice says my last day is 10/21/08, so I believe they are now going by the date you started rating.

Although the email mentions 'tomorrow', which makes it confusing, but I believe they mean tomorrow as in the day after your termination (strange way to word it!)

I didn't get the information about being rehired for a second year in my email, and I know someone posted before that there was a glitch and some people got an email w/o that info, but I would think that glitch would be fixed by now...just wondering if I am eligible for rehire


My assignment end email is the same as yours and states nothing about rehire. I am also wondering if I am eligible. I have received decent report cards...
Perhaps the content of the year-end notice depends on who (i.e., the
specific person) from WFL/Google sends it out? I'm guessing that it has
no relevance to whether or not you are eligible for rehire. Just a
thought......
I am hoping this is true. But didn't someone state there was a link included in their email directing them how to reapply? I might be wrong but I thought there were instructions different from the typical application process?
My email did have the instructions for reapplying, and I honestly don't know why some have that and some don't. None of us really know that. In any case, unless the instructions said "you are not eligible", I would assume that I am eligible and would definitely reapply...regardless.


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Old 10-08-2008, 10:46 AM
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That is what I am going to do (reapply) anyways. I think there is no one answer to how things are handled there. I would like to believe that I just received a different email and not a "special" email for those not wanted back
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Old 10-08-2008, 11:13 AM
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Tootie -

I posted the other day, wondering the same thing, but I have an update

I just got my year-end notice today. I started testing on 10/1/07, and started rating on 10/22/07. My notice says my last day is 10/21/08, so I believe they are now going by the date you started rating.

Although the email mentions 'tomorrow', which makes it confusing, but I believe they mean tomorrow as in the day after your termination (strange way to word it!)

I didn't get the information about being rehired for a second year in my email, and I know someone posted before that there was a glitch and some people got an email w/o that info, but I would think that glitch would be fixed by now...just wondering if I am eligible for rehire


My assignment end email is the same as yours and states nothing about rehire. I am also wondering if I am eligible. I have received decent report cards...
Perhaps the content of the year-end notice depends on who (i.e., the specific person) from WFL/Google sends it out? I'm guessing that it has no relevance to whether or not you are eligible for rehire. Just a thought......
I am hoping this is true. But didn't someone state there was a link included in their email directing them how to reapply? I might be wrong but I thought there were instructions different from the typical application process?
My email did have the instructions for reapplying, and I honestly don't know why some have that and some don't. None of us really know that. In any case, unless the instructions said "you are not eligible", I would assume that I am eligible and would definitely reapply...regardless.

WFL has said that all raters are eligible to reapply. I also did not receive the instructions but plan on reapplying in November anyways. I agree that Google seems to be very inconsistent lately, but that might work in our favor. I know people who got very good grades who werenot hired back (and even let go early in some cases) and some who received one's and even batently violated the NDA with Google's knowledge and yet were rehired. When I had my teleconference my first year we were told we could work two years with the break - there was no mention of reapplying. I don't know whyGoogle would consistently turn away experienced raters and keep having to train new ones (no offense to the new raters). It just seems like a good balance of experienced and new raters would be healthy for the project. I loved the job and got really good at it, but if it wasn't meant to be than it wasn't meant to be.
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Old 10-08-2008, 11:51 AM
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Question...do any of you have a corporation? Can you get paid through your corporation for this work?
This is W2 only. Big corps are very averse to dealing with anyone acting as a one-man independent contractor. When I worked for BigCorp, we would laugh at one-man shops that don't have employees, insurance, or an office outside of their residence - they have no chance at getting paid work except as W2 through an agency or as a permanent employee.
I agree this work can only be done though W-2s but I heartily disagree with your assessment of "big corps" and one-man shops. Times have changed a lot and people that work at home as sole proprietors can certainly land paying clients from large reputable companies.

I have been a freelancer for 15 years and am actually more respected in my field now that I'm home. I am smart enough not to have additional overhead, I am more flexible, and I don't put wear and tear on my clients' equipment. Sure, some companies may laugh when they find out it's just me but the majority appreciate and recognize that smaller is better.
Wow, I also disagree that "one-man" shops are laughable. I find that to be very behind the times. My husband owns his own corporation because he does a lot of contract construction and building inspection work. It's a bonafide business with advertising, expenditures, and income. He knows many other people who do this type of work, and they also formed corporations. Not only to market the business and have a formal protected name, but to limit some liability, to separate finances form our personal ones, and to pay taxes accordingly. I'm sure there are many freelancers and contractors who do the same.
I'm going to stay with just IT work in this discussion. I don't know much about construction but in IT, it's very hard to get C2C at BigCorp nowadays.

I do IC work as well, so I do sympathize and get pissed off when I have to do W2 because BigCorp won't let me do IT work as a IC. At smaller firms, it's pretty easy to avoid W2 but then the projects are not worth as much.

A one man shop has almost no chance of getting past the compliance department when I worked at BigCorp doing IT work. We save them the trouble by telling them "no" at the outset. In fact, I think it's a little naive nowadays to be pitching IT work when all the the big companies are anal about tax compliance. In BigCorp's opinion, a one man shop that uses equipment and space at the BigCorp office is not really a business, especially if the work is directed by a BigCorp "boss". A W2 relationship would be much more appropriate even if the contractor tries to arrange his finances and tax status like a business. Signs of a legitimate business include inventory, employees, office that's not in the residence, and insurance ($3 mil minimum). If we had a IC that looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, we would send them to compliance and they would check out their D&B, insurance, etc to make sure they are really a business. Every once in a while, compliance would kick it out and tell us we were lied to - it's really a one man shop and tell us to pick somebody else. BigCorp outsources the whole compliance process from prequalification to invoicing, so there's really no way around it.

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Old 10-08-2008, 12:05 PM
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I also recieved an e-mail stating that "Much of the work will be performed in your language however, the pre-qualification exam and communication regarding this project will be in English."



I only applied for the English position, however, in my resumeI did mention that I am familar with basic spanish. Have any of you gotten chosen for a language that you didn't actually apply for? If I was chosen for Spanish, will a very basic understanding of spanish be enough? In my resume I never stated that I was fluent. I said I was "familar" with "basic" spanish. I really hope I didn't get chosen for spanish considering what I have heard about the lack of work available. I really only wanted to apply for the english position.</font>
I would think applying for the English position, by indicating the correct job in the subject of the email, would avoid any confusion.
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Old 10-08-2008, 07:21 PM
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I'm going to stay with just IT work in this discussion. I don't know much about construction but in IT, it's very hard to get C2C at BigCorp nowadays.

I do IC work as well, so I do sympathize and get pissed off when I have to do W2 because BigCorp won't let me do IT work as a IC. At smaller firms, it's pretty easy to avoid W2 but then the projects are not worth as much.

A one man shop has almost no chance of getting past the compliance department when I worked at BigCorp doing IT work. We save them the trouble by telling them "no" at the outset. In fact, I think it's a little naive nowadays to be pitching IT work when all the the big companies are anal about tax compliance. In BigCorp's opinion, a one man shop that uses equipment and space at the BigCorp office is not really a business, especially if the work is directed by a BigCorp "boss". A W2 relationship would be much more appropriate even if the contractor tries to arrange his finances and tax status like a business. Signs of a legitimate business include inventory, employees, office that's not in the residence, and insurance ($3 mil minimum). If we had a IC that looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, we would send them to compliance and they would check out their D&amp;B, insurance, etc to make sure they are really a business. Every once in a while, compliance would kick it out and tell us we were lied to - it's really a one man shop and tell us to pick somebody else. BigCorp outsources the whole compliance process from prequalification to invoicing, so there's really no way around it.
Well, all I can say is thank goodness I don't work in IT and didn't pitch your company!

Seriously, I think you're missing one thing here - I do not, and I assume the other poster's hubby, does not utilize BigCorp equipment, desk space, or supervisors. If that is the case, then yes, they should be W-2ed.

I, however, am a "legitimate" business with a D&amp;B number and a Paydex ID and I jus happen to work out of my house. Your company needs to wake up and stop being so closed minded. More than half of the households in the US run businesses from their homes!
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I'm going to stay with just IT work in this discussion.* I don't know much about construction but in IT, it's very hard to get C2C at BigCorp nowadays.I do IC work as well, so I do sympathize and get pissed off when I have to do W2 because BigCorp won't let me do IT work as a IC.** At smaller firms, it's pretty easy to avoid W2 but then the projects are not worth as much.A one man shop has almost no chance of getting past the compliance department when I worked at BigCorp doing IT work.* We save them the trouble by telling them "no" at the outset.* In fact, I think it's a little naive nowadays to be pitching IT work when all the the big companies are anal about tax compliance. * In BigCorp's opinion, a one man shop that uses equipment and space at the BigCorp office is not really a business, especially if the work is directed by a BigCorp "boss".* A W2 relationship would be much more appropriate even if the contractor tries to arrange his finances and tax status like a business.* Signs of a legitimate business include inventory, employees,* office that's not in the residence, and insurance ($3 mil minimum).** If we had a IC that looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, we would send them to compliance and they would check out their D&B, insurance, etc to make sure they are really a business.* Every once in a while, compliance would kick it out and tell us we were lied to - it's really a one man shop and tell us to pick somebody else.* BigCorp outsources the whole compliance process from prequalification to invoicing, so there's really no way around it.
Well, all I can say is thank goodness I don't work in IT and didn't pitch your company!Seriously, I think you're missing one thing here - I do not, and I assume the other poster's hubby, does not utilize BigCorp equipment, desk space, or supervisors. If that is the case, then yes, they should be W-2ed.I, however, am a "legitimate" business with a D&B number and a Paydex ID and I jus happen to work out of my house. Your company needs to wake up and stop being so closed minded. More than half of the households in the US run businesses from their homes!
being a "solo artist" in the IT field myself, i find this discussion fairly interesting.

having said that, and admitting up front that i know nobody died and made me king of this board, does this discussion really belong in the only "google quality rater" board around?

if you think it does, please continue--like i said i'm not the king of the place and don't purport to be. further, i find it interesting. i just don't know if everybody else does.

with that i'll shut up now. thanks for your attention.
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Thanks Mysterylectic! hahahaha. I was thinking the same thing! The board has been very quiet tonight with QR's! Thanks for being so sweet about it, and everyone is, of course welcome, but did we get off topic or did I miss sumpin'? LOL....
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I'm going to stay with just IT work in this discussion. I don't know much about construction but in IT, it's very hard to get C2C at BigCorp nowadays.I do IC work as well, so I do sympathize and get pissed off when I have to do W2 because BigCorp won't let me do IT work as a IC. At smaller firms, it's pretty easy to avoid W2 but then the projects are not worth as much.A one man shop has almost no chance of getting past the compliance department when I worked at BigCorp doing IT work. We save them the trouble by telling them "no" at the outset. In fact, I think it's a little naive nowadays to be pitching IT work when all the the big companies are anal about tax compliance. In BigCorp's opinion, a one man shop that uses equipment and space at the BigCorp office is not really a business, especially if the work is directed by a BigCorp "boss". A W2 relationship would be much more appropriate even if the contractor tries to arrange his finances and tax status like a business. Signs of a legitimate business include inventory, employees, office that's not in the residence, and insurance ($3 mil minimum). If we had a IC that looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, we would send them to compliance and they would check out their D&amp;B, insurance, etc to make sure they are really a business. Every once in a while, compliance would kick it out and tell us we were lied to - it's really a one man shop and tell us to pick somebody else. BigCorp outsources the whole compliance process from prequalification to invoicing, so there's really no way around it.
Well, all I can say is thank goodness I don't work in IT and didn't pitch your company!Seriously, I think you're missing one thing here - I do not, and I assume the other poster's hubby, does not utilize BigCorp equipment, desk space, or supervisors. If that is the case, then yes, they should be W-2ed.I, however, am a "legitimate" business with a D&amp;B number and a Paydex ID and I jus happen to work out of my house. Your company needs to wake up and stop being so closed minded. More than half of the households in the US run businesses from their homes!


being a "solo artist" in the IT field myself, i find this discussion fairly interesting.



having said that, and admitting up front that i know nobody died and made me king of this board, does this discussion really belong in the only "google quality rater" board around?



if you think it does, please continue--like i said i'm not the king of the place and don't purport to be. further, i find it interesting. i just don't know if everybody else does.



with that i'll shut up now. thanks for your attention.
I was getting really confused. I was so lost with this line of posting, I thought for a moment maybe I was missing a big part of my QR responsibilities. Feel better knowing its OT (and over my head).
 
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