Herbalife

[CandlePartyGirl]

Can we get a new folder for Herbalife? I know there are some out here that would like to have it.
Thanks!

[jnmurra]

If there is interest by other members, please have them contact me. I have not been adding any new folders unless there is interest by more than one member because it's been my experience that when only one member is interested and the folder is created, it becomes nothing but spam and/or is abandoned when that member moves on to another business.

HTH,

Jennifer

[BerryWriter]

Honestly, Herbalife is a scam and shouldn't be encouraged here. Ever see those "Crazy Like a Fox" ads that promise big paying work at home jobs? That's Herbalife, AKA Amway. Just another pyramid scheme. Check out these links for more info:

Ripoff Report: Herbalife/Work from Home ripoff deceptive company business opportunity rip-off scam Los Angeles California *EDitor's Comment

Home Based Business: Crazy Like a Fox? Maybe, If You Fall For This!

What's the Deal with those CrazyFox Commercials?

[jnmurra]

Herbalife is not a pyramid scheme. The last I checked, it was network marketing/multilevel marketing, which, if you'll notice, this forum is full of folders for network marketing and multilevel marketing companies. We've had some of these folders for, I don't know, years and years and years. A lot of work-at-home moms actually do make a living in NWM/MLM. So, yeah, it's encouraged here.

[Yuliya Mironova]

Originally Posted by BerryWriter

Just another pyramid scheme

I think it's probably fair to say that no member here is more enthusiastic than I am about explaining why some purported "network marketing opportunities" we see promoted/discussed here are actually illegal pyramid schemes; but if Herbalife is a "pyramid scheme", I'm a banana.

Herbalife is an extremely well-established, highly successful MLM company.

A "pyramid scheme" is something illegal, dressed up as MLM, without proper products that retail customers buy because they want to buy them at that price and from that source without themselves being involved in the business opportunity in any way at all.

Herbalife are certainly not short of retail customers. (I've even been one of them myself).

This link (and the whole of the rest of the website on which that page appears) will help to explain to anyone the differences between bona-fide MLM (of which Herbalife is a good example) and "pyramid schemes".

The fact that there are few links available like the ones in the post above, of course, signifies no more than that the company has been trading for decades. There are far more complaints about Sears, American Airlines, JCPenney and McDonalds than there are about Herbalife. No company that size can do business indefinitely without one or two people whingeing on the internet about their personal negative experiences: it's just a statistical inevitability of absolutely no significance whatsoever.

Herbalife is actually a pretty interesting company: in spite of its enormous size, long establishment, history and so on, there always seem to be disproportionally few of their distributors in forums like this one. I think they have this in common with another giant company called Forever Living Products: the majority of their most successful distributors (and there are certainly very many!) don't do business online at all, but promote and build their businesses (as I do) in the real world instead of the virtual one. Still, I'd also like to see a Herbalife folder here, if there are any others, because they're certainly "underrepresented" here.

[MrsCyrcus]

Originally Posted by BerryWriter

Honestly, Herbalife is a scam and shouldn't be encouraged here. Ever see those "Crazy Like a Fox" ads that promise big paying work at home jobs? That's Herbalife, AKA Amway. Just another pyramid scheme. Check out these links for more info:

Ripoff Report: Herbalife/Work from Home ripoff deceptive company business opportunity rip-off scam Los Angeles California *EDitor's Comment

Home Based Business: Crazy Like a Fox? Maybe, If You Fall For This!

What's the Deal with those CrazyFox Commercials?

Herbalife is NOT AKA Amway. I believe you mean Quickstar. Herbalife has very good products. I've used them in the past.

[Yuliya Mironova]

Originally Posted by MrsCyrcus

Herbalife is NOT AKA Amway. I believe you mean Quickstar. Herbalife has very good products. I've used them in the past.

Dawn, the quality of a company's products doesn't relate in any way to whether they're a legal MLM company or an illegal pyramid scam. That's determined by such questions as whether the joining-fees of subsequent participants are used to make commission payments to existing participants (that's illegal, and doesn't happen in Herbalife), and whether the company derives a certain proportion of its income from retail sales to the general public (non-distributors of the company), which Herbalife does - which again is a sign that it isn't a "pyramid".

[MrsCyrcus]

Originally Posted by Yuliya Mironova

Dawn, the quality of a company's products doesn't relate in any way to whether they're a legal MLM company or an illegal pyramid scam. That's determined by such questions as whether the joining-fees of subsequent participants are used to make commission payments to existing participants (that's illegal, and doesn't happen in Herbalife), and whether the company derives a certain proportion of its income from retail sales to the general public (non-distributors of the company), which Herbalife does - which again is a sign that it isn't a "pyramid".

Yulia, where in my post did I say I was relating the product with the "scheme"? I just threw that in there for people who may have never tried their products.

[Yuliya Mironova]

Originally Posted by MrsCyrcus

Yulia, where in my post did I say I was relating the product with the "scheme"?

Perhaps nowhere other than in its very presence, but after the lengths we had to go to recently, citing legal, regulatory and other documents, to persuade you that cash-gifting schemes are a criminal offense, Dawn, I wasn't taking even the tiniest chance of any ambiguity or misunderstanding with this one.

Anyway, we agree about Herbalife products, as it happens.

[MrsCyrcus]

Originally Posted by Yuliya Mironova

Perhaps nowhere other than in its very presence, but after the lengths we had to go to recently, citing legal, regulatory and other documents, to persuade you that cash-gifting schemes are a criminal offense, Dawn, I wasn't taking even the tiniest chance of any ambiguity or misunderstanding with this one.

Anyway, we agree about Herbalife products, as it happens.

Sorry, but I was not persuaded by anything anyone had to say in the cash gifting post at all, so not sure where you got that idea.