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View Full Version : Have to start over.


philena30
09-19-2006, 02:57 PM
What's your opinion on open source software? I tried php-nuke at first but it was just too many tables and not too search engine friendly. Also made it load slow.. So I'm starting over and trying out Joomla with more CSS instead of tables.


Some say post-nuke is good too..


I got a call from someone for druple.


in_flu_ence
09-21-2006, 04:15 AM
Joomla and Mambo are great CMS for website designers. There are many tutorials out there. Drupal is another good one but having different features.

My personal experience would stay away from php-nuke due to the security loopholes that it used to have. At many times, sites are being exploited by hackers due to the bugs in its plug-ins.

For the real pros, you can also look at typo3 which many big companies used. However, I don't find it too user-friendly for the common you and me.

You may also try Wordpress which is a blogging tool but can also create a pretty neat site using its features.

Opensource is good and Opensourse is mostly free. Have faith in it because it will give you quality that you will never encounter. otherwise.

philena30
09-21-2006, 06:35 AM
Yeah.. I hear Mambo is good too, but it makes me think of the candy..smileys/smiley36.gif Looks like I'm going to stick with joomla. But what is really weird, is that everyone has been telling me to switch to firefox. I use SBC.. or now ATT browser for tabbing and stuff, and really didn't think I needed it.

So now I'm trying to perform a bridge with phpbb and joomla so my users can be the same. But after I performed the bridge, I couldn't get in the admin area of phpbb. I cleared my cache and cookies with no results. smileys/smiley7.gif

So I was told to stop using IE and switch to firefox. there's a bug in IE that will not let you get there.. Sure enough, I downloaded firefox and poof.. there it was. Wow.. no wonder so many people say IE sucks. smileys/smiley5.gif But now some test content I posted on my frontpage is overlapping in firefox and not IE.

So when you design pages do you preview how it looks in both browsers? What if you try to fix a problem of overlapping in Firefox but it looks out of alignment in IE? How do you know which is best? Right now I'm in firefox, and wahm.com side menu looks like it's not in alignment..


in_flu_ence
09-21-2006, 07:19 AM
If you are happy with a particular software, stick to it unless it has serious security problem/discontinued product. Opensource is also about choices. That's why there are forks (e.g. Mambo and Joomla). You can choose how you lead your cyber life.

Firefox is good and I think that it has its superiority over even IE7. Nonetheless, it really depend on your personal preference. Many websites (sad to say including official sites) does not fully supporting firefox. Thus, you might have issues to view certain pages. Firefox is also safer than IE since many security exploits attack on ActiveX (Check my latest security post in our blog).

In fact, you can even change your entire OS to Linux with different distro (different 'flavours'). It is free it is opensource.

Lastly, all web designers cross check on the different browsers. Nonetheless, they also try to keep to certain standard coding that allows cross compatibility. There is absolutely no harm checking on the look in IE/Firefox/Opera. Maybe next time you will want to check if your mobile phone reads well on your site:P

Susie N
09-21-2006, 08:46 AM
Firefox is standards compliant. It shows you what you wrote in your code. IE, on the other hand, assumes what you meant</span> and shows you that. I highly recommend designing for FF and then adjusting things for IE. That way your code is most correct. FF even has a developer's toolbar that will allow you to validate your code and do all kinds of things to a website to test its functionality.

I hardly ever use tables...I use CSS divs (otherwise known as the box model). It's so much more flexible designing this way. If you use divs, you can utilize the !important rule and override some of the inconsistencies between IE and all other browsers.

I would suggest plugging your page into the W3C Markup Validator (http://validator.w3.org/) to see where errors might be. A lot of times a small error can cause all kinds of goofy things on your page.

smileys/smiley1.gif

Editing to add: If you have an overlapping problem in FF, it most likely means that your elements (containers...whatever) are not the correct size to hold the content. IE automatically resizes the container for you, whereas FF will show it just as you wrote it. If you need help, please feel free to holler (pm, email, whatever). smileys/smiley4.gif

Edited by: Susie N

in_flu_ence
09-21-2006, 08:53 AM
div is great. It is simple but effective.

On top of FF being more 'superior' in the sense as mentioned, the good library of plugins and extension enhances its features to the max. Opera is doing a similar programme.

IE, used to be the King of all browsers, has many applications (backend web-based) developed to fit it. Thus, it is still taking time for the new generation applications to be compatible to FF/Opera/Others.

Try one of those governmental portal for online payment and you might get a prompt that says you are not using IE.

philena30
09-21-2006, 12:57 PM
Firefox is standards compliant. It shows you what you wrote in your code. IE, on the other hand, assumes what you meant</span> and shows you that. I highly recommend designing for FF and then adjusting things for IE. That way your code is most correct. FF even has a developer's toolbar that will allow you to validate your code and do all kinds of things to a website to test its functionality.

I hardly ever use tables...I use CSS divs (otherwise known as the box model). It's so much more flexible designing this way. If you use divs, you can utilize the !important rule and override some of the inconsistencies between IE and all other browsers.

I would suggest plugging your page into the W3C Markup Validator (http://validator.w3.org/) to see where errors might be. A lot of times a small error can cause all kinds of goofy things on your page.

smileys/smiley1.gif

Editing to add: If you have an overlapping problem in FF, it most likely means that your elements (containers...whatever) are not the correct size to hold the content. IE automatically resizes the container for you, whereas FF will show it just as you wrote it. If you need help, please feel free to holler (pm, email, whatever). smileys/smiley4.gif



Thanks for explaining for me a little better. I thought it was all about features. smileys/smiley17.gif Now I see why so many more video tutorials in all areas of web features or programs are done in firefox.

confuzed2
09-22-2006, 06:52 AM
I hardly ever use tables...I use CSS divs (otherwise known as the box model).

Hehe. I think you are looking for the term CSS positioning, informally known as CSS-P. A good explanation of what the box model really is can be found here: http://www.ilovejackdaniels.com/css/box-model/1/

HTH,
CK

Susie N
09-22-2006, 07:29 AM
Thanks, CK. I suppose that is the more correct term. I just meant that I don't use tables (for the most part) smileys/smiley2.gif
Edited by: Susie N