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Okay some of you who have been in A***for awhile- was talking to someone I know from another upline- they had done a promotion buy 100 get 100-- they did not know exactly how it worked b/c their sponsor had entered it for them! I have tried to figure this one out but to no avail- am I missing something? I mean she didnt use it to make money but for volume- but I just dont see how you can offer this without you paying for it! please help my poor brain figure this one out!

The upline was offering this to build Volume (probably to reach a promotion level.) Think of it as 50% off. The upline was paying 15% out of pocket to make up the difference. But if it drives the volume as intende, it will pay for itself in overrides.





Meg

$200 in retail costs $130 wholesale. at district level, you would get just over $10 in override, so you would still have $20 out of pocket. If you were area or higher, you would get more override, so it might be worth it.


But if you can get several people to do it, you can start using hostess specials:


$400 retail would be $215 ($195 for $300 wholesale, plus $20 for the hostess special) and you would get $15.60 in override, so you would about break even. You would get $300 in volume for every $400 ordered,


Hmmm. not a bad idea.

department stores lines and brick and mortars are always doing some gimmick to increase sales, like giving a $30 gift for purchase of $75, so why can't we offer this too? Of course we can.smileys/smiley36.gif


hmmm, none of those above options sound too appealing to me, for one- if I'm giving up all my "right now money" then why would I give up my override check too?


how about, for every $100 order, $100retail- $65wholesale = $35profit to spend wholesale = $53.75retail/$50 for simplicity. $150 retail volume for you, for your client:for every $100 get $50 free


or


spend $250retail - 162.50wholesale = 87.50profit - 20host = 67.50profit = 103.75retail/100for simplicity= $450.= $350 retail volume for you, for your client:for $250 get $200 free.


or


spend $50retail- 32.50wholesale = 17.50profit = $26retail = $76 retail volume. Spend $50 get $25 free. (or throw in a sea salt scrub)smileys/smiley2.gifEdited by: cassandra

Cassandra and Anetyou aretwo smart women! You must have both had double javas yesterday!!!


I really like the buy 250 get 200 free- think I will offer couple of packages- buy 100 and buy 250----only going to offer from 15th -31st to see what happens-


Thanks so much to all you smarties on here!!! This is why I LOVE this board- everyone helps everyone!

To get our # up we do buy $100 get $50 Free


When I was a con I used the Rsvps with my girls to get to Dm, but once you get to Dm they don't count.


It's better to use Buy $350 & Get $350 for free. I do split it up with others to do that. You get $500 reg and the use $200 for $40 total is $365.


Hope that this helps!

DM's do get RSVP bonus's from everyone intheir central district.

And its a 75$ bonus if the RSVP is direct to you! Add the override for a DM, and the bonus is actually $103. Very nice!

But do RSVP's go towards your volume? I was taught not to do RSVP's bescause they don't help you.

You were taught not to do RSVPs becauseit getsless volume for your upline. The other way gets you $500 in volume. The volume you get from an RSVP is 350, plus the bonus. If your upline is telling you RSVPs get you nothing - then they are lying to you for THEIR benefit. I thinkthe RSVP isvery helpful, especially to a consultant and District Manager who are not making hardly anything with override commission. Getting that bonus makes a big difference in my paycheck. Once you reach Area, you are making pretty good money and so of course you are looking for more volume, but don't force that at your consultants and DMs.

$350 in volume for RSVP's Edited by: NewMommy

barbara how are you doing the math to get $103 bonus? I thought we only got $50 for an RSVP as DM, are you saying we get the regular $50 plus $25? Does that count if we do an RSVP when we renew? Because I just renewed and know I can do an RSVP if I want to. If I get $75 back, that is a good deal! I didn't do it with my order becasue I wanted the travel set! That is the biggest downfall of the RSVP, you can't get that!


Regardless of the bonus,the override as a DM I figured is only $9.10 (8% of $227.50)


thanks

I think it is dangerous to say that someone is lying to someone to benefit themselves. I am sure that it probably happens but I don't think that we can assume this is always the case.


If I am a biz builder and I am trying to build volume, then me nottaking my ownRSVP is better for me as I am getting the extra $150 in volume. If I am signing up as a personal discount consultant, then the RSVP is better for me (as well as my sponsor). It would seem to me that the override for the extra $150 in volume is less than the $50 you receive for a RSVP bonus so I cannot imagine that anyone is "getting over" tremendously by doing this.

As I DM, you get a $75 bonus on any rsvp directly sponsored to you. So yes, it is the $50, plus the $25 bonus for being a DM. If you are a DM, and someone in your central district NOT directly sponsored to you purchases the RSVP, you get the $25 bonus, plus the override.You then get 8% commission on $350, right? Why would it be $227.50 since we are not getting 35% off the $350. We pay $350. So, if it is 8% on $350, that is an add'l $28. IF it is 8% of 227.50, then it would be $18.50. I am not sure if we get the bonus on our own rsvp renewal. I wouldn't think so since I didn't get it when I first signed on and used both of my rsvps in my start month. My sponsoring consultant got the bonus. I am going to call arbonne to see what are override commission is paid on. Edited by: bbrown1226

I said they were lying if they told her the RSVP is NO benefit to the consultant, because that is not true. There is still volume to count, a bonus is given, and you receive a commission. That is a benefit. Again, I am misplacing my issues that I have with my upline. I will try to be more careful. I had a new consultant that wanted to do the RSVP b/c she was not trying to qualify for anything, she did not care about the extra volume, or extra product offers. She just wanted the 50% savings. My upline told her that RSVPs are useless and we do not do them. So, in that situation, my upline was looking out for herself, not my new consultant.


Whether to do the RSVP, or not, depends on each situation. I know we discussed this a few threads ago.

I apologize, I meant to send that as a pm...

you do not get the bonus on renewal rsvp's

Thanks, Cassandra! I didn't think so, but if we did, I have a few WBs who just renewed this month, too, and I might encourage them to use their RSVP because I could use a bonus right about now!


anf barbara, thanks for the clarification. It is just habit to multiply my volume by .65 before I figure the commission. And I didn't realize we get an extra $25 if we are DM. good to know. I think I thought it was one or the other, not both.Edited by: anet

OK, so what your saying is for the RSVP it's $700 worth of product for $350, and with the $503 order plus the 2 100's for $20, it's also $700. So it makes it $366 for that order. Is that right? So it's $16 more that the RSVP, but we get the volume of $503...am I missing something here?

It is 365, I believe there may also be a difference in taxes & shipping...ordering for volume also allows you to take advantage of other specials like PWP, the body set for $20, etc. which are not available when doing the RSVP.

Kinda smileys/smiley2.gifThe RSVP is $700 of product for $350, plus tax and shipping. The other option is ordering $500 in retail (cost is $325), and then using the 2 $100s for $20, so it cost you $40. Your total cost now is $365. Your tax and shipping will be higher because you will be taxed on $540 rather than $350. If you use the RSVP, the only bonus offered is the RE9 body set for $20. If you do the other option, you get the $5, pwps, and the body set. So, it really depends on what the client wants, and if they want volume.

But the RSVP is good for all the products in the catalog, just not the PWP's, the body set, and the $5 stuff, right? So if I have someone, a discount buyer that doesn't want to do the business and doesn't care about the other stuff, then this would be a better option for them, right?

You can get the $20 body set as a gift with the RSVP, but not any of the others.

for example, with the rsvp- you can't qualify for the travel set or the internet specials for that month, if that makes a difference for your client/consultant, then choose which is better for them.


in Pennsylvania with 6% sales tax the difference between the rsvp and the 500retail + host special of 200/40 is approximately $36.47... so if you hear anyone say it's only a $15 difference... wrong! smileys/smiley2.gif


smileys/smiley4.gifEdited by: cassandra

The difference is $36.47! How can that be? When I calculate the tax @ 6% for 350, it comes out to $21, but for $503 it's $30.18. What am I missing?

You have to figure tax on $540 for the $retail value plus the two $20 charges for the specials, I got $11.15 for the difference, plus the extra $15 for the cost, plus more on shipping, I don't know what the difference is on shipping for $500 vs. $350 retail. Maybe $2 or $3?? But so far, it is $26.15 more to do the volume building way, not $36.47.


If tax is higher than it is a bigger difference.