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aguy92
11-19-2009, 05:12 PM
So just got this email and it says that 'Daniel M' is the top earner for the month with $1,213.30 and 12,151 questions answered. So looking at that he answered about 99% of his answers not using the database which is all fine and good.
BUT then when you look into it even more is where things get a little crazy...
He answered almost 392 answers per day. Assuming he worked 12 hours a day that is about 33 answers per hour. I remember clearly in the training there was a limit of 75? hours a week? If they enforced that he could only work 300 hours in Ocotber...thats about 40 answers per hour which would give him about 1.5 minutes per answer.
So I'm guessing that they have waived or not enforcing the 75? per month? That still puts Daniel working an outrageous amount of hours?
So whats the verdict is this possible? Is KGB promoting people who are 'gaming' the system? Do you think they check Daniel M's work?
There was no mention of Daniel M doing reviews just the number of questions answered.
BUT then when you look into it even more is where things get a little crazy...
He answered almost 392 answers per day. Assuming he worked 12 hours a day that is about 33 answers per hour. I remember clearly in the training there was a limit of 75? hours a week? If they enforced that he could only work 300 hours in Ocotber...thats about 40 answers per hour which would give him about 1.5 minutes per answer.
So I'm guessing that they have waived or not enforcing the 75? per month? That still puts Daniel working an outrageous amount of hours?
So whats the verdict is this possible? Is KGB promoting people who are 'gaming' the system? Do you think they check Daniel M's work?
There was no mention of Daniel M doing reviews just the number of questions answered.
iheartpepsi
11-20-2009, 07:39 PM
Maybe they were understaffed and Otto allowed him to work extra? I was often asked to login early and stay late in October.
I'm not sure how people earn that much, but I would assume that if kgb_ is paying out over a grand in a month to one person, they're going to look closely at his activity.
If he's gaming, he's awfully good at it. Its not like he's flying under the radar. He's getting noticed, so I'd think he's getting reviewed as well.
I'm not sure how people earn that much, but I would assume that if kgb_ is paying out over a grand in a month to one person, they're going to look closely at his activity.
If he's gaming, he's awfully good at it. Its not like he's flying under the radar. He's getting noticed, so I'd think he's getting reviewed as well.
aguy92
11-20-2009, 08:11 PM
I don't know whether Daniel is a 'gamer' or not, I do know that Daniel has to put in massive amounts of time per month, there is no other way to explain how he could make so much. You would have to do KGB for 10 or 12 hours a day to make that kind of money. I couldn't do it I know that. 3 hours at a time is about my top limit.
But looking at the top 5 earner amounts:
1. 1213.30
2. 1000.40
3. 821.70
4. 678.00
5. 669.14
You can see that only 2 people make over a thousand, only 1 over 800 and then it gets into the more 'realistic' high 600 hundreds. And then you have to wonder how does #5 end up making .14 cents? lol
I could see if you did work about 300 hours a month averaging about 2-3 per hour that is a realistic amount to make, but wow 300 hours constantly answering questions at that rate has to be hard mentally?
But looking at the top 5 earner amounts:
1. 1213.30
2. 1000.40
3. 821.70
4. 678.00
5. 669.14
You can see that only 2 people make over a thousand, only 1 over 800 and then it gets into the more 'realistic' high 600 hundreds. And then you have to wonder how does #5 end up making .14 cents? lol
I could see if you did work about 300 hours a month averaging about 2-3 per hour that is a realistic amount to make, but wow 300 hours constantly answering questions at that rate has to be hard mentally?
mesia
12-02-2009, 02:27 PM
I've been thinking the same thing! It's nice to know that someone else is actually thinking about these stats instead of just accepting them as they are! lol. I love math, so I have done the math for the top earners almost every month since I started working for kgb_. And it just doesn't add up. Well first off I have to say that some of the top earners are QAs and sometimes it's not mentioned (I have noticed that). So that's one explanation for some of the top earners. But I have done the math several times and I have come to the conclusion that in order to be a top earner with $1000+ you have to work at least 10-18 hours everyday and make at least $4-8 dollars per hour (at all times, even during the slow times. which I still don't understand. lol). I don't know how they do it, and I have questioned it for the longest. I have asked other agents and they say, "well maybe they worked during night shift", or "maybe they worked during peak hours". But I've been with kgb_ since the beginning of the year and I know that there are only a few peaks per day. And the night shift is not always the greatest. So is it really possible to earn $4-8 dollars all the time at any given time of the day??? I don't think so. Idk if it's even humanly possible to work 10-18 hours EVERYDAY, and answering questions at full speed non-stop. lol. Either the top earners are clever gamers, or they are not just special agents (possibly QA's or OPs), or something fishy is going on here..... lol. Oh, and you can work as many hours a day as you want. So idk the 75 hours per week thing even applies. There are ways to work around that
mesia
12-02-2009, 02:29 PM
And another thing....how the heck did number 5 make 14 cents??? lol
aguy92
12-03-2009, 02:07 AM
I think the obvious answer to the top earners is that more than one person is using the account. It would seem more plausible if each person was doing 8-10 hour shifts each day.
mesia
12-03-2009, 01:32 PM
hmm...interesting. I never thought about it that way. I have heard of people letting their girlfriend/boyfriend, spouse, or relative work for them though
mom2gr8monkeys
12-04-2009, 07:05 AM
I saw someone in the chat room in the Agent's lounge a few weeks ago talking about how him and his brother were logging in and working with the same account. Not at the same time but taking turns. So yeah that is probably how they are doing it.
jenseib
12-09-2009, 08:55 PM
I never heard of a limit per week, but I know you can only work so many hours in a row, an then you have to log off...but I think for only 15 minutes and then you can come back
mesia
12-15-2009, 02:54 PM
is it just me? Am I the only one that gets irritated when people lie in the chatroom about how much they are making in an hour? I try to ignore those people but it's really irritating when people claim that they are making $10+ an hour when it's slow and over 300 agents are logged in. I'm trying to be sympathetic and understand. What is the point in lying? We all do the same thing so we know the truth. I'm just having a hard time understanding the lying process I guess.
aguy92
12-15-2009, 06:15 PM
With some of the absolute crappy answers I've seen, I wouldn't be surprised if some people just click on the first 'auto answer' and then edit the text to make it worth 10 cents instead of 5 to send it out. If you were do that you would probably make $10 an hour until however long it takes for that kind of thing to be discovered.
Either way, some people send out some horrible answers that have nothing to do with the question asked.
Either way, some people send out some horrible answers that have nothing to do with the question asked.
msuggitt
12-16-2009, 05:43 PM
Good eye aguy92. :) I don't work for kgb (or any of the others) but with a background in mngt/admin this post caught my eye. It only took some simple business math and common sense to make me agree that it really doesn't add up.
aguy92 was very conservative with the numbers, as this guy would be working 12 hours a day for 31 days straight and the numbers don't even reflect any breaks, lunches, nor potty breaks? hmmmm....:rolleyes: somehow it doesn't sound possible.
this question may be best served directed at someone who has input into job descriptions and pay, hr/payroll maybe? It's great you're watching out for yourself while you're working at home - I call it "minding your own business" and I give aguy92 a high mark :) hopefully you guys get some answers or resolutions
aguy92 was very conservative with the numbers, as this guy would be working 12 hours a day for 31 days straight and the numbers don't even reflect any breaks, lunches, nor potty breaks? hmmmm....:rolleyes: somehow it doesn't sound possible.
this question may be best served directed at someone who has input into job descriptions and pay, hr/payroll maybe? It's great you're watching out for yourself while you're working at home - I call it "minding your own business" and I give aguy92 a high mark :) hopefully you guys get some answers or resolutions
aguy92
12-17-2009, 05:22 PM
Well we got the November top earner numbers and someone managed to outdo Daniel M. this
month, the man of the month is Chris G. Chris managed to answer 10,455 questions in the 30
days of November, and made $1,146!
Daniel M 'only' made $1,013 in November, that is $200 less than he made in October.
I also see that the next 5 winners in cash were able to supplement their per question
answers pretty well with contest winnings, which makes since as they would have more chance
to win the contests answering more questions:
Chris G 10,455 question answered for $1,146....that would be about $1044.50 on answers alone
and about $100 winnings in the contests.
Daniel M answered 9,850 questions answered for $1,013 that would be about $63 dollars in
conest winnings
Ernest C 5,788 questions answered for $901, on answers alone this would only be $578 so he
won about $322 in contests.
Kristy A 5,681 questions answerd for $602 this would mean she won about $34 dollars in
contests.
Justin C. quite possibly uses some recycled answers because he answered 6,335 but only came
away with $571, thats an average of about .09 cents per answer, so he probably uses a recycled answer about 10% of the time.
month, the man of the month is Chris G. Chris managed to answer 10,455 questions in the 30
days of November, and made $1,146!
Daniel M 'only' made $1,013 in November, that is $200 less than he made in October.
I also see that the next 5 winners in cash were able to supplement their per question
answers pretty well with contest winnings, which makes since as they would have more chance
to win the contests answering more questions:
Chris G 10,455 question answered for $1,146....that would be about $1044.50 on answers alone
and about $100 winnings in the contests.
Daniel M answered 9,850 questions answered for $1,013 that would be about $63 dollars in
conest winnings
Ernest C 5,788 questions answered for $901, on answers alone this would only be $578 so he
won about $322 in contests.
Kristy A 5,681 questions answerd for $602 this would mean she won about $34 dollars in
contests.
Justin C. quite possibly uses some recycled answers because he answered 6,335 but only came
away with $571, thats an average of about .09 cents per answer, so he probably uses a recycled answer about 10% of the time.
mesia
12-17-2009, 10:45 PM
well since I'm an avid fan of math, I thought that I'd add my 10 cents (get it? lol. jk) anyway.... So Chris G answered 10,455 questions this month and made $1,146. There are 30 days in November so he answered (on average) about 348 questions per day. So let's say that he worked 9 hours per day. So that would be about 39 questions per hour. and that means 1.5 minutes for EVERY question. Wow! I don't know how these people do it. I actually take my time and send quality answers. Sometimes it takes less than 30 seconds to answer one. but sometimes the hard questions take 10 minutes. I don't know how they do it everyday. lol
aguy92
12-18-2009, 01:11 AM
This would be my honest question to the top earners also, how do they deal with the occassional really tough question, do they just give an 'alternate answer' or do they work 12 hour days and actually research the tough questions. I would say one question every hour on average is a 'hard' question for me, something I Have to put 5-10 minutes in looking the answer. I would say the average question only takes 2 minutes to answer, even less if its a .05 database answer of course. If Chris made the average of what people on the board report, about 2.50 an hour he would have to work 418! hours in a month.
418 hours is almost 14 hours per day. Even if he made $3 an hour, every single hour he would be working 348 hours or 11.6 hours a day. Even $4 an hour is 8.7 hours a day. I would be incredibly burnt out and hating KGB if I tried to work even more than about 3 hours a day lol....sometimes you just need a break.
Again there is very real possibility that the top earners let other people use their accounts, that would at least cut out the factor of being completely fatigued and burnt out.
418 hours is almost 14 hours per day. Even if he made $3 an hour, every single hour he would be working 348 hours or 11.6 hours a day. Even $4 an hour is 8.7 hours a day. I would be incredibly burnt out and hating KGB if I tried to work even more than about 3 hours a day lol....sometimes you just need a break.
Again there is very real possibility that the top earners let other people use their accounts, that would at least cut out the factor of being completely fatigued and burnt out.