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View Full Version : Liveperson new minimum is 1.99 from 0.99!!!
ashliew
11-09-2009, 10:14 PM
I am not sure if this is a good idea or not. I think it will break me since I am already not doing as good as I should be doing.
Lightningbug
11-11-2009, 08:19 AM
I got raised up price-wise too. I think everyone did regardless of their PPM. At the risk of sounding new-age-y, I notice that my beliefs and mental outlook about how good I'm doing has more to do with how good I'm doing than any price or external circumstance.
Maybe ask yourself if this is a GOOD thing? :) Maybe a higher price will help you attract different clients or the right ones will gladly pay the extra dollar without thinking. Think of this - there are lots of readers who charge much more than 1.99 (or even START off with zero ratings or bad ratings) with a higher price. Why not you too?
LP (on this forum they like you to replace certain letters like L*vePerson) -- they take a big cut. Maybe this is a way for you to be more abundant?
:) good luck.
Maybe ask yourself if this is a GOOD thing? :) Maybe a higher price will help you attract different clients or the right ones will gladly pay the extra dollar without thinking. Think of this - there are lots of readers who charge much more than 1.99 (or even START off with zero ratings or bad ratings) with a higher price. Why not you too?
LP (on this forum they like you to replace certain letters like L*vePerson) -- they take a big cut. Maybe this is a way for you to be more abundant?
:) good luck.
jagauarwisdom
11-11-2009, 04:15 PM
It also looks like that from today ALL sessions automatically go into hire mode after 3 minutes.
Critter
11-11-2009, 09:59 PM
I got raised up price-wise too. I think everyone did regardless of their PPM. At the risk of sounding new-age-y, I notice that my beliefs and mental outlook about how good I'm doing has more to do with how good I'm doing than any price or external circumstance.
Maybe ask yourself if this is a GOOD thing? :) Maybe a higher price will help you attract different clients or the right ones will gladly pay the extra dollar without thinking. Think of this - there are lots of readers who charge much more than 1.99 (or even START off with zero ratings or bad ratings) with a higher price. Why not you too?
LP (on this forum they like you to replace certain letters like L*vePerson) -- they take a big cut. Maybe this is a way for you to be more abundant?
:) good luck.
No. It's actually a way for someone to make a load of money off people's stress and duress. Granted, more than half the requests are about bf/gf or when they will find love or get a job.. although, getting a job is more important probably, than when you will meet someone. To me, it's simply exploiting people in a gross manner to force such a pay hike.
I hope it puts LP out of business and all the readers will find better place to be.. where they can do their work as they see fit.. charging what they want and how they want.
Too many people are fake readers anyway.. and too many people get hurt by those fake readers.. and now they get to pay even more for it.
Yeah, LP is a dirt hole of exploitation.
Guess I'd better cancel my acct and ask that they pay me the balance left on my acct. LOL I haven't 'charged' a person on there for over a year now. :) I just didn't have the heart.. the type of work I do is not reading tarot.. People come/came to me with real need, pain, sorrow, how can I make money off someone's grief? I can't..
Time to officially pull the plug over there, and they'd better pay what they owe..
Maybe ask yourself if this is a GOOD thing? :) Maybe a higher price will help you attract different clients or the right ones will gladly pay the extra dollar without thinking. Think of this - there are lots of readers who charge much more than 1.99 (or even START off with zero ratings or bad ratings) with a higher price. Why not you too?
LP (on this forum they like you to replace certain letters like L*vePerson) -- they take a big cut. Maybe this is a way for you to be more abundant?
:) good luck.
No. It's actually a way for someone to make a load of money off people's stress and duress. Granted, more than half the requests are about bf/gf or when they will find love or get a job.. although, getting a job is more important probably, than when you will meet someone. To me, it's simply exploiting people in a gross manner to force such a pay hike.
I hope it puts LP out of business and all the readers will find better place to be.. where they can do their work as they see fit.. charging what they want and how they want.
Too many people are fake readers anyway.. and too many people get hurt by those fake readers.. and now they get to pay even more for it.
Yeah, LP is a dirt hole of exploitation.
Guess I'd better cancel my acct and ask that they pay me the balance left on my acct. LOL I haven't 'charged' a person on there for over a year now. :) I just didn't have the heart.. the type of work I do is not reading tarot.. People come/came to me with real need, pain, sorrow, how can I make money off someone's grief? I can't..
Time to officially pull the plug over there, and they'd better pay what they owe..
Lightningbug
11-12-2009, 07:57 AM
- I have given free sessions on LP and LP doesn't REQUIRE you to have the client pay, and there is no penalty for giving free time. (completely unhired sessions) - if you want to give away your time, you certainly can - though that will (on their Site) influence ranking, and impact a client's ability to find you so you can help them. (that's the only "pentalty" built into their for-profit structure).
There are plenty of professional psychics who are not fakers or scammers who are working to capitalize on duress and pain. (I agree about the rampant exploitation -but that's not everyone.) Many offer legitimate services and MANY who seek those services have the means to pay for them. Remember, there are clients in this world who like to buy 9000 dollar shoes too -- it is their choice. What seems like a lot to you or me, may not be to someone else who makes 500 times as much as we do. I know a woman who's play-budget each month is half my year's income.
The idea that psychics should not charge for their services is really offensive to the idea that everyone's time and talent has worth. And as for people being in pain, - I too can't charge someone who has lost a job or experienced a catastrophe - but there's balance too.. I don't see loan-negotiation places, lawyers, hospitals, grocerty stores, psychologists or therapists working for free. Low-fees, payment plans, kindness in a moment of need - yes. Free? No.
I don't know where we get this idea that helping people means we should not ask for our worth and sustain our livelihood. If we are homeless - we can't help the homeless. If we don't put our "oxygen masks on" in the airplane, we can't help other passengers with theirs. I hear this even from friends who are in licensed therapists. Guilt over charging people who are hurting - BUT - for the person in pain, they are often willing to hire professionals who can help them feel better (like a doctor who sets a broken bone). I know I'm willing to pay people who help me and when I was hurting and in need, I did. I was also grateful for anyone who helped me pro bono. This is no excuse to be greedy, unethical, (this is what scammers abuse) or to not offer free or low-cost services to those in need but there are many people who do make a living spending time with people to help them find answers. L*vePerson is there for the money, absolutely - but many sweet, kind and generous doctors, therapists, psychics, etc. work there. What would happen to them? And the people who need them? (Other sites do NOT allow for free services at all!) - We'll have to agree to disagree on the plug-pulling.
(end of long rant)
jaguarwisdom, unless I missed something, it's not true that all sessions go into hire after 3 minutes. Just certain introductory promotions.
:) Good luck to all.
There are plenty of professional psychics who are not fakers or scammers who are working to capitalize on duress and pain. (I agree about the rampant exploitation -but that's not everyone.) Many offer legitimate services and MANY who seek those services have the means to pay for them. Remember, there are clients in this world who like to buy 9000 dollar shoes too -- it is their choice. What seems like a lot to you or me, may not be to someone else who makes 500 times as much as we do. I know a woman who's play-budget each month is half my year's income.
The idea that psychics should not charge for their services is really offensive to the idea that everyone's time and talent has worth. And as for people being in pain, - I too can't charge someone who has lost a job or experienced a catastrophe - but there's balance too.. I don't see loan-negotiation places, lawyers, hospitals, grocerty stores, psychologists or therapists working for free. Low-fees, payment plans, kindness in a moment of need - yes. Free? No.
I don't know where we get this idea that helping people means we should not ask for our worth and sustain our livelihood. If we are homeless - we can't help the homeless. If we don't put our "oxygen masks on" in the airplane, we can't help other passengers with theirs. I hear this even from friends who are in licensed therapists. Guilt over charging people who are hurting - BUT - for the person in pain, they are often willing to hire professionals who can help them feel better (like a doctor who sets a broken bone). I know I'm willing to pay people who help me and when I was hurting and in need, I did. I was also grateful for anyone who helped me pro bono. This is no excuse to be greedy, unethical, (this is what scammers abuse) or to not offer free or low-cost services to those in need but there are many people who do make a living spending time with people to help them find answers. L*vePerson is there for the money, absolutely - but many sweet, kind and generous doctors, therapists, psychics, etc. work there. What would happen to them? And the people who need them? (Other sites do NOT allow for free services at all!) - We'll have to agree to disagree on the plug-pulling.
(end of long rant)
jaguarwisdom, unless I missed something, it's not true that all sessions go into hire after 3 minutes. Just certain introductory promotions.
:) Good luck to all.
Critter
11-12-2009, 09:52 AM
HI, first, if the psychics were all so real, then it wouldn't have disclaimers and called 'entertainment'. Now, having said that, I do know that some people are for real, I have my own abilities in that realm that are real as well. However, a site like LP is a catch all, and half the responses to posted requests are 'canned'..
As for myself, I choose not to sell Spirit. I have a job and the Spirit work is something I do on the side for people in need. It is not a game to me, nor a way to make a living. It is a responsibility that I carry with honor.
However, I am not a tarot reader .. there is a big difference. If all I were doing was reading tarot and giving insight, then that is to me, a whole different ball game.
If you look at the truly psychic people, such as Edgar Cayce, he never charged a dime. Why? Because when you have that kind of 'real' gift, there is a responsibility that comes with it. When it's just a game for entertainment, that's something altogether different.
In my beliefs, these new age things, these 'justifications' for selling spirit are wrong. And in the end, the spirits will leave.
Is reading tarot selling spirit? I don't personally think it is. So, we are talking two different things here. You learn a craft of reading cards and find people who want to pay you to interpret cards for them. Sometimes it's right, sometimes it's wrong. You make disclaimers so as not to get into any legal troubles. Anyone can go buy a deck of cards and find a book and learn to read and interpret.. even possibly opening their own intuitive skills in the process. And then open shop and use that means as an end to make a living. But that is a far cry from actually being 'psychic' in my view of things. That type of work is not imo Spirit work.
Spirit work is not for sale imo. The time and value of that time is a gift in itself. And it is offensive to me, (and others) when a person with true spiritual gifts charges money claiming they have to have value for their time.. when the 'value' is the gift itself.. which is an honor to have been given to help peoples. It's like a slap in the Spirit's face.
Anyway, just wanted to differentiate so you understand I am not talking about the entertainment of tarot reading. I am talking about people with very real true gifts, that require no disclaimers. If you're putting a disclaimer on your work, then you are 'disclaiming' it as being real.
One thing I can say, in this world where we need money to live.. I have not yet once been left without. In the time of dire need, somehow, something has always come forward to help me out.. always. I have no need to charge people for the time that is spent while Spirit uses me to assist them. If I am in need, my needs are met. I am not rich, I live very low key, and often it's a struggle, but I am never left 'without'.
On a side note, there is something really wrong with this forum in the time it takes to load .. it is why I left wahm years ago... talk about a waste of time LOL It took all morning trying to get the forum to load with error messages and retrying.. I don't think it's worth it.. unless they can fix the system issues.
Also, yes, ALL session go into auto hire after 3 minutes on LP.
As for myself, I choose not to sell Spirit. I have a job and the Spirit work is something I do on the side for people in need. It is not a game to me, nor a way to make a living. It is a responsibility that I carry with honor.
However, I am not a tarot reader .. there is a big difference. If all I were doing was reading tarot and giving insight, then that is to me, a whole different ball game.
If you look at the truly psychic people, such as Edgar Cayce, he never charged a dime. Why? Because when you have that kind of 'real' gift, there is a responsibility that comes with it. When it's just a game for entertainment, that's something altogether different.
In my beliefs, these new age things, these 'justifications' for selling spirit are wrong. And in the end, the spirits will leave.
Is reading tarot selling spirit? I don't personally think it is. So, we are talking two different things here. You learn a craft of reading cards and find people who want to pay you to interpret cards for them. Sometimes it's right, sometimes it's wrong. You make disclaimers so as not to get into any legal troubles. Anyone can go buy a deck of cards and find a book and learn to read and interpret.. even possibly opening their own intuitive skills in the process. And then open shop and use that means as an end to make a living. But that is a far cry from actually being 'psychic' in my view of things. That type of work is not imo Spirit work.
Spirit work is not for sale imo. The time and value of that time is a gift in itself. And it is offensive to me, (and others) when a person with true spiritual gifts charges money claiming they have to have value for their time.. when the 'value' is the gift itself.. which is an honor to have been given to help peoples. It's like a slap in the Spirit's face.
Anyway, just wanted to differentiate so you understand I am not talking about the entertainment of tarot reading. I am talking about people with very real true gifts, that require no disclaimers. If you're putting a disclaimer on your work, then you are 'disclaiming' it as being real.
One thing I can say, in this world where we need money to live.. I have not yet once been left without. In the time of dire need, somehow, something has always come forward to help me out.. always. I have no need to charge people for the time that is spent while Spirit uses me to assist them. If I am in need, my needs are met. I am not rich, I live very low key, and often it's a struggle, but I am never left 'without'.
On a side note, there is something really wrong with this forum in the time it takes to load .. it is why I left wahm years ago... talk about a waste of time LOL It took all morning trying to get the forum to load with error messages and retrying.. I don't think it's worth it.. unless they can fix the system issues.
Also, yes, ALL session go into auto hire after 3 minutes on LP.
jagauarwisdom
11-12-2009, 03:08 PM
jaguarwisdom, unless I missed something, it's not true that all sessions go into hire after 3 minutes. Just certain introductory promotions.
You're right! To be honest I had not experienced that before until yesterday and then mistakenly assumed that the "auto-hire" might be a new introduction along with the $1.99 minimum. It must be for certain promotions lightningbug as you mentioned :)
You're right! To be honest I had not experienced that before until yesterday and then mistakenly assumed that the "auto-hire" might be a new introduction along with the $1.99 minimum. It must be for certain promotions lightningbug as you mentioned :)
Critter
11-12-2009, 08:04 PM
Interesting, on my pages it states clearly that session will auto hire after 3 minutes.
WardenofMagick
11-15-2009, 01:49 PM
If you're putting a disclaimer on your work, then you are 'disclaiming' it as being real.
Doctors don't say, "Fool proof surgeries", lawyers don't say "I' guarantee I'll win this case for you!" Even your appliances and software contain disclaimers stating their proper usage and that you are responsible for how you use them. A disclaimer is not disclaiming psychic work as being false, or not real. A disclaimer simply states that the client bears responsibility for their actions as well. Those providing the service to them are not the only ones responsible for the advice given.
This is my opinion, and I stand firmly by it.
Doctors don't say, "Fool proof surgeries", lawyers don't say "I' guarantee I'll win this case for you!" Even your appliances and software contain disclaimers stating their proper usage and that you are responsible for how you use them. A disclaimer is not disclaiming psychic work as being false, or not real. A disclaimer simply states that the client bears responsibility for their actions as well. Those providing the service to them are not the only ones responsible for the advice given.
This is my opinion, and I stand firmly by it.
Critter
11-15-2009, 07:38 PM
But the doctor and lawyer don't put a disclaimer on their 'ability' to do a surgery or file a law suit. Certain risks and other factors are to be taken into consideration. But a doctor doesn't say, I 'might' be able to perform surgery.. and a lawyer doesn't say they 'might' be able to perform in the court. And, if a doctor's performance is wrong, a person sues.. and if a lawyer's performance is wrong, a person can appeal or have the case retried. Trying to compare a tarot reader's disclaimer to a doctor or lawyer .. well, it's so totally not even close to the same.
Maybe if I'd actually had more than one accurate 'psychic' reading in 30 years I'd not be so disbelieving of all these 'psychics'.. Sorry, but there just are not that many psychic people in the world.. and I do not think highly of these 'mills' like LP. And I've even had readings from some of the more 'top' people outside of the mills. They've all been wrong, every single one. Nothing they ever said came to be. Not one. So, considering 30 years of my life that I've had readings off and on from various folks, I just don't believe that there are many people with this gift. And, looking at all the 'psychic' reader mills.. LOL right.
However, doesn't mean I don't enjoy the occasional 'game' of tarot.. or fortune tellers.. for fun. It's entertainment.
That's just my opnion.. and I'm sure there are many who disagree.. as well as many who agree.
Maybe if I'd actually had more than one accurate 'psychic' reading in 30 years I'd not be so disbelieving of all these 'psychics'.. Sorry, but there just are not that many psychic people in the world.. and I do not think highly of these 'mills' like LP. And I've even had readings from some of the more 'top' people outside of the mills. They've all been wrong, every single one. Nothing they ever said came to be. Not one. So, considering 30 years of my life that I've had readings off and on from various folks, I just don't believe that there are many people with this gift. And, looking at all the 'psychic' reader mills.. LOL right.
However, doesn't mean I don't enjoy the occasional 'game' of tarot.. or fortune tellers.. for fun. It's entertainment.
That's just my opnion.. and I'm sure there are many who disagree.. as well as many who agree.
Lightningbug
11-18-2009, 08:30 AM
I've been trying to reply here for days - but have lots and lots of troubles with this site, lately. (It won't load or times itself out). -ugh.
Anyway - interesting opinions, Critter. I tend to think of the gift of the artist as "Spirit" or the gift of the wise doctor, or the gift of the accountant "spirit" too. They charge for their time and energy.
I've had likewise meager and unimpressive experiences with psychics (admitedly very FEW though), but that said - there are people who really have extraordinairy gifts of perception. Do they all exist under one "roof" - doubtful. But they are there. ;) - As for the disclaimer, that one has always been mysterious - because, at least in my book, people are not always seeking a psychic for fun and giggles. It's fun to get a tarot reading maybe (and there need be no special skill or intuition to give one - even though many readers do so with extraordinary skill and education) ... but many people do not do this for fun but when their heart is bent, broken and their mind fogged by death, divorce, break-up, etc.
{I agree w/ WoM, there's disclaimers in every profession and advisos on everything - like the one I just read the other day on cell-phone paperwork, "Warning: do not reach into back seat of car to answer phone while driving."} lol
About the three minutes and then auto-hire, I don't know what "pages" Critter is talking about (especially having said that you worked on LP for a year) - ???
but to add some factual info ; the promotion is only for NEW clients and only on their first visit to the site to be used with whichever expert they pick. After that, on subsequent visits, things go back to normal and the client chooses when they press the hire button. I don't like the 3 minute thing... it's too short a time to get acquainted and the client has no control over the "hire" button.
here's the helpfile: (sorry not sure how to make a "quotation")
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Sessions Changing to 'Hire' Status After 3 Minutes
Both our Phone and Live Chat formats give NEW clients 3 free minutes at the start of the session. After 3 minutes the session will automatically go into pay mode, without you having to ask your client to click the 'Hire Expert' button. You will be alerted with a tone when the paid session has begun, as well as with the message ‘Paid session has begun’ on the bottom of the chat window.
This offer is valid only for a new client’s first session on L*vePerson. You will be made aware when a new client contacts you as their first expert on L*vePerson. Feel flattered that they chose you to get started with, and use the first three minutes to get an understanding of their needs, as well as to tell them a little bit more about your background and expert services.
Anyway - interesting opinions, Critter. I tend to think of the gift of the artist as "Spirit" or the gift of the wise doctor, or the gift of the accountant "spirit" too. They charge for their time and energy.
I've had likewise meager and unimpressive experiences with psychics (admitedly very FEW though), but that said - there are people who really have extraordinairy gifts of perception. Do they all exist under one "roof" - doubtful. But they are there. ;) - As for the disclaimer, that one has always been mysterious - because, at least in my book, people are not always seeking a psychic for fun and giggles. It's fun to get a tarot reading maybe (and there need be no special skill or intuition to give one - even though many readers do so with extraordinary skill and education) ... but many people do not do this for fun but when their heart is bent, broken and their mind fogged by death, divorce, break-up, etc.
{I agree w/ WoM, there's disclaimers in every profession and advisos on everything - like the one I just read the other day on cell-phone paperwork, "Warning: do not reach into back seat of car to answer phone while driving."} lol
About the three minutes and then auto-hire, I don't know what "pages" Critter is talking about (especially having said that you worked on LP for a year) - ???
but to add some factual info ; the promotion is only for NEW clients and only on their first visit to the site to be used with whichever expert they pick. After that, on subsequent visits, things go back to normal and the client chooses when they press the hire button. I don't like the 3 minute thing... it's too short a time to get acquainted and the client has no control over the "hire" button.
here's the helpfile: (sorry not sure how to make a "quotation")
***********************************
Sessions Changing to 'Hire' Status After 3 Minutes
Both our Phone and Live Chat formats give NEW clients 3 free minutes at the start of the session. After 3 minutes the session will automatically go into pay mode, without you having to ask your client to click the 'Hire Expert' button. You will be alerted with a tone when the paid session has begun, as well as with the message ‘Paid session has begun’ on the bottom of the chat window.
This offer is valid only for a new client’s first session on L*vePerson. You will be made aware when a new client contacts you as their first expert on L*vePerson. Feel flattered that they chose you to get started with, and use the first three minutes to get an understanding of their needs, as well as to tell them a little bit more about your background and expert services.
Critter
11-21-2009, 11:54 PM
Hi, I just looked and it's gone now. But it was on my profile when I looked the last time.. it stated that ALL sessions will auto hire after 3 minutes. It's not there anymore.
Anyway, I emailed them tonight to cancel the account.
I understand the artist.. my brother is a muscian, and although he doesn't care about money.. he more so just wants people to enjoy his music.. I do understand the artist's gift and the work involved.
To be honest.. what I do just doesn't involve the kind of work a lawyer, doctor or musician has to put in. I don't have to pay college tuition, and I don't have to purchase equipment, for example. Nor do I have to pay for advertising, or license fees, or over head.. for example.
I don't have a disclaimer, but I do tell people if I am not able to help.. or if I am unsure that I can help, or if I will only be able to provide temporary relief of their issue. If it is a medical condition I ask that they seek medical help along with holistic and alternative methods. If it is something I can take care, I do it.
I've had people ask me to teach them, I refuse. I do not teach what I do. I also do not agree with programs people pay money to go and become 'shamans'.. I find that ludicrous. First because 'shaman' is not a recognize term in indigenous people's languages.. or thought.. Secondly, becuase mass production of 'degrees' in 'shamanism' is a huge mess.. with a lot of people thinking they know things that they don't know.
As for the psychics, I have not had reliable readings .. I even hired someone from a listing that was supposed to be reputable, they were wrong.
For myself, it is not in my nature to have someone pay me to help them. I remember one time when I was a teen. I was walking downtown and this old man comes out of a bank, and he falls.. and hits his head. I helped him up and got him ok.. he had a scrape on his forehead.. I made sure he was OK. And then we went our separate ways. Should I have charged him?
This is my point. I am not comfortable ethically, or morally or spiritually charging people who fall down in life and need a little help getting back up and on their path. It costs me nothing to help them.. why should it cost them something?
Anyway, I emailed them tonight to cancel the account.
I understand the artist.. my brother is a muscian, and although he doesn't care about money.. he more so just wants people to enjoy his music.. I do understand the artist's gift and the work involved.
To be honest.. what I do just doesn't involve the kind of work a lawyer, doctor or musician has to put in. I don't have to pay college tuition, and I don't have to purchase equipment, for example. Nor do I have to pay for advertising, or license fees, or over head.. for example.
I don't have a disclaimer, but I do tell people if I am not able to help.. or if I am unsure that I can help, or if I will only be able to provide temporary relief of their issue. If it is a medical condition I ask that they seek medical help along with holistic and alternative methods. If it is something I can take care, I do it.
I've had people ask me to teach them, I refuse. I do not teach what I do. I also do not agree with programs people pay money to go and become 'shamans'.. I find that ludicrous. First because 'shaman' is not a recognize term in indigenous people's languages.. or thought.. Secondly, becuase mass production of 'degrees' in 'shamanism' is a huge mess.. with a lot of people thinking they know things that they don't know.
As for the psychics, I have not had reliable readings .. I even hired someone from a listing that was supposed to be reputable, they were wrong.
For myself, it is not in my nature to have someone pay me to help them. I remember one time when I was a teen. I was walking downtown and this old man comes out of a bank, and he falls.. and hits his head. I helped him up and got him ok.. he had a scrape on his forehead.. I made sure he was OK. And then we went our separate ways. Should I have charged him?
This is my point. I am not comfortable ethically, or morally or spiritually charging people who fall down in life and need a little help getting back up and on their path. It costs me nothing to help them.. why should it cost them something?
Michelle Smithers
11-23-2009, 04:10 AM
Can anyone tell me the average order value for a reading, say a one month reading ?
WardenofMagick
11-23-2009, 09:37 AM
That varies firstly. And secondly, this is a "break room" for those who are psychics, etc. We don't talk shop here. I would suggest going to k33n and livep3rson and looking there at reader profiles and deciding from there which reader you like. :)
breemystic
11-28-2009, 07:00 AM
I've been trying to reply here for days - but have lots and lots of troubles with this site, lately. (It won't load or times itself out). -ugh.
Anyway - interesting opinions, Critter. I tend to think of the gift of the artist as "Spirit" or the gift of the wise doctor, or the gift of the accountant "spirit" too. They charge for their time and energy.
I've had likewise meager and unimpressive experiences with psychics (admitedly very FEW though), but that said - there are people who really have extraordinairy gifts of perception. Do they all exist under one "roof" - doubtful. But they are there. ;) - As for the disclaimer, that one has always been mysterious - because, at least in my book, people are not always seeking a psychic for fun and giggles. It's fun to get a tarot reading maybe (and there need be no special skill or intuition to give one - even though many readers do so with extraordinary skill and education) ... but many people do not do this for fun but when their heart is bent, broken and their mind fogged by death, divorce, break-up, etc.
{I agree w/ WoM, there's disclaimers in every profession and advisos on everything - like the one I just read the other day on cell-phone paperwork, "Warning: do not reach into back seat of car to answer phone while driving."} lol
About the three minutes and then auto-hire, I don't know what "pages" Critter is talking about (especially having said that you worked on LP for a year) - ???
but to add some factual info ; the promotion is only for NEW clients and only on their first visit to the site to be used with whichever expert they pick. After that, on subsequent visits, things go back to normal and the client chooses when they press the hire button. I don't like the 3 minute thing... it's too short a time to get acquainted and the client has no control over the "hire" button.
here's the helpfile: (sorry not sure how to make a "quotation")
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I just wanted to say to you, that I am a tarot reader on LP, I have read many books on it. I have worked on developing my own intuition as well. I am also a gifted advisor to many clients on LP, I am also not listed in Fortune Telling, I take responsibility and I know the responsibility that I have on lp to give accurate answers. To me giving the reading is not just for fun. I even have reviews where people say that my readings are better and more helpful that psychics. i don't have a disclaimer on my profile, and i think twice before i give someone an outcome. so please don't think just because someone's a tarot reader that they don't feel as much responsibility as a psychic does. I feel disheartened, that there's a stigma with reading cards. If they're read well, they can be more accurate than a psychic reading. I've had psychic readings, and you know what, most of it just seems like common sense and advice. Anyone can say they are psychic, but tarot readers have to prove themselves more.
Anyway - interesting opinions, Critter. I tend to think of the gift of the artist as "Spirit" or the gift of the wise doctor, or the gift of the accountant "spirit" too. They charge for their time and energy.
I've had likewise meager and unimpressive experiences with psychics (admitedly very FEW though), but that said - there are people who really have extraordinairy gifts of perception. Do they all exist under one "roof" - doubtful. But they are there. ;) - As for the disclaimer, that one has always been mysterious - because, at least in my book, people are not always seeking a psychic for fun and giggles. It's fun to get a tarot reading maybe (and there need be no special skill or intuition to give one - even though many readers do so with extraordinary skill and education) ... but many people do not do this for fun but when their heart is bent, broken and their mind fogged by death, divorce, break-up, etc.
{I agree w/ WoM, there's disclaimers in every profession and advisos on everything - like the one I just read the other day on cell-phone paperwork, "Warning: do not reach into back seat of car to answer phone while driving."} lol
About the three minutes and then auto-hire, I don't know what "pages" Critter is talking about (especially having said that you worked on LP for a year) - ???
but to add some factual info ; the promotion is only for NEW clients and only on their first visit to the site to be used with whichever expert they pick. After that, on subsequent visits, things go back to normal and the client chooses when they press the hire button. I don't like the 3 minute thing... it's too short a time to get acquainted and the client has no control over the "hire" button.
here's the helpfile: (sorry not sure how to make a "quotation")
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I just wanted to say to you, that I am a tarot reader on LP, I have read many books on it. I have worked on developing my own intuition as well. I am also a gifted advisor to many clients on LP, I am also not listed in Fortune Telling, I take responsibility and I know the responsibility that I have on lp to give accurate answers. To me giving the reading is not just for fun. I even have reviews where people say that my readings are better and more helpful that psychics. i don't have a disclaimer on my profile, and i think twice before i give someone an outcome. so please don't think just because someone's a tarot reader that they don't feel as much responsibility as a psychic does. I feel disheartened, that there's a stigma with reading cards. If they're read well, they can be more accurate than a psychic reading. I've had psychic readings, and you know what, most of it just seems like common sense and advice. Anyone can say they are psychic, but tarot readers have to prove themselves more.
Ashtae220
11-28-2009, 10:38 PM
I worked on LP for a VERY short period of time, I had a horrible experience and quit.
Anyway as a person who has quit I just want to say that I had a hard time getting LP to cancel my membership. The most I could do was put it into a type of vacation status and the messenger won't delete off my computer at all.
Anyway as a person who has quit I just want to say that I had a hard time getting LP to cancel my membership. The most I could do was put it into a type of vacation status and the messenger won't delete off my computer at all.
