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kamie3535
09-03-2009, 07:56 PM
Students' take-home assignment: Census kits - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/census/2009-08-26-census-kits-schools_N.htm)

Anyone tempted to ignore the 2010 Census will have a tough time doing it — especially if they have kids in school.

The government has launched Census in Schools, an all-out campaign targeting superintendents, principals, teachers, students and, indirectly, parents, as schools open across the nation this month and next. The message: The Census is coming and here's why everyone should care.

The goal is to send posters, teaching guides, maps and lesson plans to every school in the nation, Puerto Rico and U.S. island territories to encourage everyone to participate in the national count. The materials will land in more than 118,000 schools and reach 56 million students.

"It's great to reach the children because children are such strong voices in their homes," says Renee Jefferson-Copeland, chief of the Census schools program. "In households that are linguistically isolated, they can express the information to their parents."

The school effort is more ambitious than in 2000, the last time the government set out to count everyone. This isn't about counting everyone! Get the long form and tell me that's the idea!!!! At that time, teachers had to request the material and it was available only in print. Now, the kits and lessons will arrive in every school and lesson plans can be downloaded online, where they will be available in 28 languages.

The Constitution mandates a complete population count every 10 years. The tally — down to the city block — helps redraw political boundaries and determine states' representation in Congress and the distribution of more than $400 billion in federal funds to state and local governments every year. That is why how many people live here is all the info they we ever get from me!

"It's extremely important for us," says Michael McGrady, associate director for partnership development at the National Head Start Association, which promotes school readiness for low-income children and their families. "Historically, Head Start families have been undercounted and that has a negative effect on their communities."

Between January and March, the Census Bureau will help plan a week of Census education in schools. During Census Week, teachers will devote 15 minutes every day for five days to the topic by discussing such things as civic participation, confidentiality or geography. Beginning in mid-March, more than 120 million Census questionnaires will be delivered to residential addresses. This tactic is not for the short form trust me!

The Census Bureau is partnering with Sesame Street to extend the 2010 Census message to preschoolers and adult caregivers. Under consideration: Using Sesame Street characters on Census materials and having characters participate in school events and public service announcements.


kamie3535
09-03-2009, 08:01 PM
I got the long form back in 2000, it was like 60 pages of invasive questions. I wrote carefully on each page in huge magic marker. Two people live here.

A few weeks later I got a phone call from the census buerua. They where getting pretty nasty, but I refused to answer the stupid questions. Each one they asked me I asked them where the authority in the Constitution was for this line of questions. They gave up, until about two weeks later. They showed up at my door. Luckily DH was home and feed them a line of questioning that I hadn't even thought of.

The questions where raging from how many T.V.s to how far we each drive to work, how do you heat your home, how much is your weekly food budget etc................


I will not answer those questions. They have a right to know how many people live here, and that is all they have a right to know.

If I had a child I'd instruct them to deny the propaganda material.

meg27599
09-03-2009, 08:27 PM
Kamie,

I'm simply not sending it back in. *shrug* We did the same thing in the 90s. They came to the door and when they asked things like what is your household income I stated I didn't know. The woman was a bit confused about how I didn't know down to the freaking penny what my boyfriend (at the time now husband) made. Well hell sweetie, he is commission based plus salary so no, I don't have a clue what he makes over the course of a year since I don't exactly have his pay stubs on hand nor am I going to go dig for his tax return.

Anything else I just said I don't know to. She got the picture soon enough and went on her way.


kamie3535
09-03-2009, 08:42 PM
Kamie,

I'm simply not sending it back in. *shrug* We did the same thing in the 90s. They came to the door and when they asked things like what is your household income I stated I didn't know. The woman was a bit confused about how I didn't know down to the freaking penny what my boyfriend (at the time now husband) made. Well hell sweetie, he is commission based plus salary so no, I don't have a clue what he makes over the course of a year since I don't exactly have his pay stubs on hand nor am I going to go dig for his tax return.

Anything else I just said I don't know to. She got the picture soon enough and went on her way.

I have a feeling that is not an option. In 20 I had them showing up at my door with badges, acting all officall like!

I'd send it back in, with the only question answered that they have a right to know. HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE HERE!!!!

At least that's what I will do, I can't tell you to do anything different. I swear though I will not answer anything else!

The fact that they are "USING" kids to obtain this info, sends chills down my spine.

tenXmom
09-03-2009, 08:53 PM
"It's great to reach the children because children are such strong voices in their homes," says Renee Jefferson-Copeland, chief of the Census schools program. "In households that are linguistically isolated, they can express the information to their parents."

If it will be so readily available in so many languages why do kids need to "express the information to their parents"?

What does "express the information to their parents" mean?

BTW how come we had a pre-census at the door a few months ago?

How many times can we be counted?

Bailey4
09-03-2009, 09:03 PM
Unfortunatly we ran into this with Title I and it was difficult to explain to people. Not everyone is literate in their first language. So we would translate everything as mandated by law and still end up relying on K-2 students to communicate with Mom and Dad that they needed to speak with us. It puts a huge amount of pressure on the students and should not be done except when absolutely necessary.

In this instance I think there is an additional propaganda element to it. However, it creates tension in communities that can create a back lash. Parents do not enjoy being "educated" by their children nearly as much as the government assumes they do.

kamie3535
09-03-2009, 10:04 PM
"It's great to reach the children because children are such strong voices in their homes," says Renee Jefferson-Copeland, chief of the Census schools program. "In households that are linguistically isolated, they can express the information to their parents."

If it will be so readily available in so many languages why do kids need to "express the information to their parents"?

What does "express the information to their parents" mean?

BTW how come we had a pre-census at the door a few months ago?

How many times can we be counted?

Was the bold, The American Community Survey? They seem to stop at nothing to buy votes.


If so it's part of the Census. A back door thing they do. If not I have no idea.

tenXmom
09-03-2009, 10:23 PM
*I wasn't trying to bold anything - the editor and I are not getting along lately....

jnmurra
09-04-2009, 03:57 AM
Parents do not enjoy being "educated" by their children nearly as much as the government assumes they do.

No, I really don't. My oldest, all of 8 years old, tries to do it all the time and gets shut down when she starts. I really don't need her on my a** about the Census. I've already made up my mind what I'm doing and I'm one of those "stubborn mountain women," so there's no changing my mind. :)

*sigh* I can see I am going to be forced to home school at some point within the next three-and-a-half years.

This is just absurd.

adbullock
09-04-2009, 07:23 AM
We moved in our house three years ago and had a lady from the census office show up constantly. I kept telling her she'd have to come back when Hubby was home because I didn't know the answer to those questions.

At any rate, she said we wouldn't have to go through this for at least another 5 years by law. Are you saying that a representative of the government lied to us??? (I really need a smiley with a sarcasm sign).