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christinaw
08-14-2009, 07:16 PM
The apply button is up at OnPoint@Home!
On Point @ Home (http://www.onpointathome.com)
There is a 25 hour a week minimum. Writing and phone skills are needed. The position includes both, not just one or the other! Writing skills are necessary, but you don't have to be a professional writer.
I've been with OP for over 2 years and love it!
Good Luck Everyone!
On Point @ Home (http://www.onpointathome.com)
There is a 25 hour a week minimum. Writing and phone skills are needed. The position includes both, not just one or the other! Writing skills are necessary, but you don't have to be a professional writer.
I've been with OP for over 2 years and love it!
Good Luck Everyone!
Witchwith3
08-14-2009, 07:27 PM
The apply button is up at OnPoint@Home!
On Point @ Home (http://www.onpointathome.com)
There is a 25 hour a week minimum. Writing and phone skills are needed. The position includes both, not just one or the other! Writing skills are necessary, but you don't have to be a professional writer.
I've been with OP for over 2 years and love it!
Good Luck Everyone!
Sucks when you don't have a resume to offer (been a SAHM for 5 yrs!) .... bummer .... :(
On Point @ Home (http://www.onpointathome.com)
There is a 25 hour a week minimum. Writing and phone skills are needed. The position includes both, not just one or the other! Writing skills are necessary, but you don't have to be a professional writer.
I've been with OP for over 2 years and love it!
Good Luck Everyone!
Sucks when you don't have a resume to offer (been a SAHM for 5 yrs!) .... bummer .... :(
workingmamma
08-14-2009, 08:07 PM
Does all positions require alot of phone time?
jhall
08-15-2009, 06:27 AM
Thanks for the lead.
anniekatt
08-15-2009, 08:22 AM
Hi and thanks for posting this. OnPoint is a company I feature in the Call Center category (along with 5 pages of other companies). They are reputable and a great lead!
Cheers,
Annie
Cheers,
Annie
MsTrina80
08-15-2009, 09:12 AM
Thanks so much.
SmartChic
08-15-2009, 11:01 AM
Onpoint is a great company and legitimate.
I tried Onpoint and didn't like it. It's too close to telemarketing if you ask me but that's all I can say about that.
EDIT: It's not selling or telemarketing just so you know.. but it just made "me" feel that way.
I tried Onpoint and didn't like it. It's too close to telemarketing if you ask me but that's all I can say about that.
EDIT: It's not selling or telemarketing just so you know.. but it just made "me" feel that way.
khakigirl
08-15-2009, 11:28 AM
What exactly does OnPoint do? Their site is really vague.
SmartChic
08-15-2009, 11:34 AM
There is a non-disclosure agreement that everyone signs who is or has worked with Onpoint. Once you sign it, you are not allowed to discuss in detail what they do.. I guess for a set limit of time. So anyone who actually knows what they do can not disclose that information because of that agreement.
It's a good company to work for.. it really is, but it was not for me. I know on they're site it states that the do outbound calling. They do. I don't like outbound calling in any form; whether the customer is expecting or is unaware of the call... I simply don't like outbound calling. But some people have been with them for a long time. It's not for everyone though. If you're okay with outbound calling, not trying to sell stuff or get donation, you should try it out.
Sorry I can't give you more information. Hope this helps.
It's a good company to work for.. it really is, but it was not for me. I know on they're site it states that the do outbound calling. They do. I don't like outbound calling in any form; whether the customer is expecting or is unaware of the call... I simply don't like outbound calling. But some people have been with them for a long time. It's not for everyone though. If you're okay with outbound calling, not trying to sell stuff or get donation, you should try it out.
Sorry I can't give you more information. Hope this helps.
mbondur12
08-15-2009, 11:39 AM
Onpoint is a great company and legitimate.
I tried Onpoint and didn't like it. It's too close to telemarketing if you ask me but that's all I can say about that.
EDIT: It's not selling or telemarketing just so you know.. but it just made "me" feel that way.
I did the same and I agree. It also felt a little too much like I was an employee instead of an IC with all of their rules. The pay is good and they pay when they say they will, but you do work for it, and they are particular about the work you submit.
If you love details and like talking to people and writing, I definitely say to give it a try!
I tried Onpoint and didn't like it. It's too close to telemarketing if you ask me but that's all I can say about that.
EDIT: It's not selling or telemarketing just so you know.. but it just made "me" feel that way.
I did the same and I agree. It also felt a little too much like I was an employee instead of an IC with all of their rules. The pay is good and they pay when they say they will, but you do work for it, and they are particular about the work you submit.
If you love details and like talking to people and writing, I definitely say to give it a try!
jenb6723
08-15-2009, 12:16 PM
I applied becuase I don't mind outbound calling. After reading the site though, I am wondering if political calling is involved....? I know you current and former employees can't share but thanks for the tip christinaw!
khakigirl
08-15-2009, 12:39 PM
I applied becuase I don't mind outbound calling. After reading the site though, I am wondering if political calling is involved....? I know you current and former employees can't share but thanks for the tip christinaw!
That's what I'm wondering too. If it's not selling and not getting donations - it must be for a special interest group of some sort.
That's what I'm wondering too. If it's not selling and not getting donations - it must be for a special interest group of some sort.
Clairejoy
08-16-2009, 03:54 PM
I have worked for them since Feb. I like it!
The pay is good and accurate. It is a great company to work for.
I can't say much about what we do - mums the word but - the website explains it
There's been a few posts about people not liking the work because of the cold calling. I can understand that. Personally, I enjoy the conversations I have with people.
What I don't get is how people can have a problem with the rules. Not just what I have read in this post, but on other forums too. There are very few expectations if you ask me. Do quality work and be productive. Work 25 hours a week. Keep it confidential. Don't like an issue? then don't sign up for it. They give you training to help you achieve good results, but don't demand anything to be done a certain way.
I guess my standards are lower than some people's, since I have done worse jobs. MUCH worse.
For example....7 months of Dial America inbound call center, Charleston SC
DA rules: too many to list, but here's a few
Quality control - sales calls recorded and reviewed, say one wrong word and lose your week's incentive pay
Creative freedom - none, scripted to the word on most
Sales Quotas. strict - wasnt hard for me, but it was for many
Talk time - better not pause for a breath or give the caller a chance to ask a question or you fail
monotony - expected to do the same thing, day in day out - robotic
breaks - aside from not abiding by state or federal laws, you had to raise hand to get on the bio-break list
job security -
Good workers were fired all the time over bureaucracy. My friend got fired because she hung up on someone that was screaming at her and calling her every name in the book including, a F**** N****
Schedule adherence - strict - written warnings then fired
environment - nothing allowed at cubicle, uncomfortable chairs, and germs everywhere
You always had a manager breathing down your neck, picking apart everything you do.
Strict dress code & clear handbags
Type of work/morality - a lot of projects were hard sells, deceptive and verging on illegal many were on projects that req dealing with irate callers demanding refunds
The rules, I could deal with. The problem I had, besides the minutes ticking by like hours, was they tried to rip me off just about every week on my incentive pay.
Now compaired to Onpoint...some issues are N/A since its done from home but overall...it has been the exact opposite of the Dial America experience.
I can't say I have any complaints about Onpoint after 7 months, and they keep me working pretty steady.
The pay is good and accurate. It is a great company to work for.
I can't say much about what we do - mums the word but - the website explains it
There's been a few posts about people not liking the work because of the cold calling. I can understand that. Personally, I enjoy the conversations I have with people.
What I don't get is how people can have a problem with the rules. Not just what I have read in this post, but on other forums too. There are very few expectations if you ask me. Do quality work and be productive. Work 25 hours a week. Keep it confidential. Don't like an issue? then don't sign up for it. They give you training to help you achieve good results, but don't demand anything to be done a certain way.
I guess my standards are lower than some people's, since I have done worse jobs. MUCH worse.
For example....7 months of Dial America inbound call center, Charleston SC
DA rules: too many to list, but here's a few
Quality control - sales calls recorded and reviewed, say one wrong word and lose your week's incentive pay
Creative freedom - none, scripted to the word on most
Sales Quotas. strict - wasnt hard for me, but it was for many
Talk time - better not pause for a breath or give the caller a chance to ask a question or you fail
monotony - expected to do the same thing, day in day out - robotic
breaks - aside from not abiding by state or federal laws, you had to raise hand to get on the bio-break list
job security -
Good workers were fired all the time over bureaucracy. My friend got fired because she hung up on someone that was screaming at her and calling her every name in the book including, a F**** N****
Schedule adherence - strict - written warnings then fired
environment - nothing allowed at cubicle, uncomfortable chairs, and germs everywhere
You always had a manager breathing down your neck, picking apart everything you do.
Strict dress code & clear handbags
Type of work/morality - a lot of projects were hard sells, deceptive and verging on illegal many were on projects that req dealing with irate callers demanding refunds
The rules, I could deal with. The problem I had, besides the minutes ticking by like hours, was they tried to rip me off just about every week on my incentive pay.
Now compaired to Onpoint...some issues are N/A since its done from home but overall...it has been the exact opposite of the Dial America experience.
I can't say I have any complaints about Onpoint after 7 months, and they keep me working pretty steady.
mbondur12
08-16-2009, 06:55 PM
While I was with Onpoint (about 2 months) the managers were always after us to work, work, work but never gave anybody praise when someone did do a good job. In that respect, they reminded me a lot of Dial America. I worked in a DA center for over 2 years as a rep and later a training supervisor.
I will give OP credit where credit is due. The pay was good and always accurate and on time. The work was certainly not hard (but it could get to be repetitive). It was just not for me, mostly because of the outbound calling and people wondering why we called them.
Again, if you don't mind outbound calling and talking with people, give it a try.
I will give OP credit where credit is due. The pay was good and always accurate and on time. The work was certainly not hard (but it could get to be repetitive). It was just not for me, mostly because of the outbound calling and people wondering why we called them.
Again, if you don't mind outbound calling and talking with people, give it a try.
aalexander
08-16-2009, 08:08 PM
I went to apply,but I don't have the Java thing they want,
and they want like $50.00 for the use of their system?
Anyway...bummer....
and they want like $50.00 for the use of their system?
Anyway...bummer....
mbondur12
08-17-2009, 03:48 AM
You can get the latest version of Java at www.java.com (http://www.java.com) for free. Don't know anything about the $50 to use their system though. They didn't require that when I worked there.
aalexander
08-17-2009, 10:49 AM
I went ahead and applied today and downloaded the java...Thankyou!...:-)
I'll take my chance with the 50.00.
Someone told me they only charge it if I start training and don't
complete a project...so will see how it goes...:-)
I'll take my chance with the 50.00.
Someone told me they only charge it if I start training and don't
complete a project...so will see how it goes...:-)
SmartChic
08-18-2009, 09:52 PM
The $50 is really not what you think.. but I can't say. It's not an upfront fee, I can tell you that. But they'll explain that on the call.
aalexander
08-18-2009, 10:23 PM
Ok,thankyou,I'm still waiting to hear back now..:-)
jenb6723
08-20-2009, 12:45 PM
I passed the first assessment and am filling out my paperwork. I really enjoyed the written assessment and if this is an indication of part of the work I am really going to like it. Just the chance to use my brain to create something instead of script, script, script is exciting. Hope others will here back soon as well!
aalexander
08-20-2009, 02:00 PM
I did'nt pass....BoooHoooo...sniff...:-(
rose3300
08-20-2009, 07:48 PM
I did'nt pass....BoooHoooo...sniff...:-(
When did you find out? I sent in the writing assessments on Aug. 18.
When did you find out? I sent in the writing assessments on Aug. 18.
aalexander
08-20-2009, 08:15 PM
I think it was yesterday I found out...
jenb6723
08-20-2009, 09:31 PM
I sent mine in yesterday and got the call today. Got paperwork this evening and am filling out to send in the AM.
rose3300
08-20-2009, 09:42 PM
I got the email tonight, shortly after I posted here, to fill out all the paperwork. Just sent it all back in.
jenb6723
08-22-2009, 10:34 AM
I don't want to post much, confidentiality is huge for them, but I am moving on in the processes. I had never heard of onpoint before jumping on this board so a HUGE thanks to those who post opportunities. This will be a golden egg for me and I am so excited to work with them!
kindermusikmom
08-22-2009, 10:54 AM
I know everything is hush hush but can anyone tell me a ballpark figure on what the hourly pay is? More than $10/ hr? $12 $15? Any clue at all? Please just so I know if it is worth the trouble.
Adamsmom
08-23-2009, 06:14 PM
I'm working on my writing assessment , finger crossed!
Oddvark57
08-23-2009, 06:43 PM
I know everything is hush hush but can anyone tell me a ballpark figure on what the hourly pay is? More than $10/ hr? $12 $15? Any clue at all? Please just so I know if it is worth the trouble.
According to a help-wanted ad posted by the webmistress on the Work at Home Mafia the pay is $12/hr.for telephone advocates.
Other sites have posted the hourly rate as well but that site is likely the most familiar to most of us.
According to a help-wanted ad posted by the webmistress on the Work at Home Mafia the pay is $12/hr.for telephone advocates.
Other sites have posted the hourly rate as well but that site is likely the most familiar to most of us.
SuperSandraB
08-23-2009, 10:04 PM
What exactly does OnPoint do? Their site is really vague.
I guess it's protect their trade secrets or whatnot??? Not sure but it must be a unique company. I think I'll give check it out. thanks to OP
I guess it's protect their trade secrets or whatnot??? Not sure but it must be a unique company. I think I'll give check it out. thanks to OP
SmartChic
08-23-2009, 10:18 PM
This is a great company to work for if you like outbound, telemarketing type calls. It has great pay and they always paid on time. It's not sales and it's not fundraising.
If you don't like outbound calling, you will not like this. You MUST enjoy outbound calling to people who is NOT expecting your call. I stress this because most people say that they are ok with it and is interested because there is no selling involved but it's still outbound calling. I know because I said the same thing but I ended up not liking it. I really wish that I like outbound calling, but I don't. I don't like calling people unexpected.
I was desperate for a job and applied thinking that I would just do it because it was a job, but in the end, I didn't stay a week. So it's all about being honest with yourself. If I had been, then I wouldn't have wasted my time and the company's time either. I would recommend that you really think about it before applying. It's a wonderful company to work for but its definitely not for everyone.
If you don't like outbound calling, you will not like this. You MUST enjoy outbound calling to people who is NOT expecting your call. I stress this because most people say that they are ok with it and is interested because there is no selling involved but it's still outbound calling. I know because I said the same thing but I ended up not liking it. I really wish that I like outbound calling, but I don't. I don't like calling people unexpected.
I was desperate for a job and applied thinking that I would just do it because it was a job, but in the end, I didn't stay a week. So it's all about being honest with yourself. If I had been, then I wouldn't have wasted my time and the company's time either. I would recommend that you really think about it before applying. It's a wonderful company to work for but its definitely not for everyone.
AllieWhitt
08-23-2009, 10:49 PM
SmartChic...you are absolutely correct!! I am not crazy about outbound calls, but I am now use to it. As long as I don't have to sell anything.
Allie
Allie
Helena1
08-24-2009, 07:27 AM
been with OP about 3 months, love the job, TL's, managers, everythiing about them. If you visit web site and take assessments, you will have an idea of what they do. It is OB calling, all I can say is I would never do telemarketing or fundraising. For me, this is very different.
princess26
08-24-2009, 07:43 AM
I would have to agree OnPoint is a great company and I would encourage all to apply.
Best of luck to everyone!
Best of luck to everyone!
SmartChic
08-24-2009, 10:05 AM
I do not encouarage all to apply and I'm sure OnPoint does not either. I only encourage those that like outbound calling to people who does not know your calling and is okay with rejection.
If you are like me and do not like outbound calling in any form, then this is not for you. This has nothing to do with the company or it's managers itself. This is a great company to work for but if you don't like outbound calling, you will not like this. I was told the very same thing and wasted a week. It's truly a wonderful opportunity for that perfect match.
Not trying to discourage anyone from applying but it's not for everyone because it wasn't for me and many others that is on this board. Be honest with yourself or you'll waste your time. That's one of the keys to finding a job you love to do.
If you are like me and do not like outbound calling in any form, then this is not for you. This has nothing to do with the company or it's managers itself. This is a great company to work for but if you don't like outbound calling, you will not like this. I was told the very same thing and wasted a week. It's truly a wonderful opportunity for that perfect match.
Not trying to discourage anyone from applying but it's not for everyone because it wasn't for me and many others that is on this board. Be honest with yourself or you'll waste your time. That's one of the keys to finding a job you love to do.
gladysathome
08-24-2009, 10:07 AM
Also - not trying to discourage anyone - but it's 'right wing' lobbying. So there's lots of work now. But if you are a strong supporter of the current administration, then it's hard to be 'part of the problem'. OTHER than that - they are great!
jenb6723
08-24-2009, 05:35 PM
Also - not trying to discourage anyone - but it's 'right wing' lobbying. So there's lots of work now. But if you are a strong supporter of the current administration, then it's hard to be 'part of the problem'. OTHER than that - they are great!
Way to uphold the ND gladysathome. So you are saying if you support Obama you can't work for OnPoint. How about you let people apply and decide for themselves.:mad:
I train tommorow and can't wait.:)
Way to uphold the ND gladysathome. So you are saying if you support Obama you can't work for OnPoint. How about you let people apply and decide for themselves.:mad:
I train tommorow and can't wait.:)
SmartChic
08-24-2009, 05:59 PM
To be honest Gladysathome, you are border line, if not already breach of contract for the NonDisclosure Agreement.... you shared a little bit toooo much information about the job itself. This information is very confidential...and your a little beyond the borders??!!
rose3300
08-24-2009, 06:10 PM
Way to uphold the ND gladysathome. So you are saying if you support Obama you can't work for OnPoint. How about you let people apply and decide for themselves.:mad:
I train tommorow and can't wait.:)
I train tomorrow too. See you there!
I train tommorow and can't wait.:)
I train tomorrow too. See you there!
khakigirl
08-24-2009, 06:44 PM
To be honest Gladysathome, you are border line, if not already breach of contract for the NonDisclosure Agreement.... you shared a little bit toooo much information about the job itself. This information is very confidential...and your a little beyond the borders??!!
Maybe she doesn't work there and she found out through someone else...sounds like someone found a loophole.
Maybe she doesn't work there and she found out through someone else...sounds like someone found a loophole.
AllieWhitt
08-25-2009, 10:28 PM
If she does work there...she probably won't for long.
Allie
Allie
Oddvark57
08-26-2009, 05:09 AM
To be fair, a little research about the company itself will disclose that information. Several newspapers and periodicals have written about what this company does.
And in a way some of you are confirming exactly what the poster has "revealed" by jumping ugly. If the poster is in violation of any NDA (s)he's signed, you are too.
I have no dog in this hunt. But really, no need to chastise the poster about discussing information that is clearly in the public domain.
And in a way some of you are confirming exactly what the poster has "revealed" by jumping ugly. If the poster is in violation of any NDA (s)he's signed, you are too.
I have no dog in this hunt. But really, no need to chastise the poster about discussing information that is clearly in the public domain.
gladysathome
08-26-2009, 06:11 AM
I just feel that people should be aware before they start. If they are passionate politically then they should know what type of work they would be doing. They carefully omit that they are right wing in the hiring process and also when a project is offered. They 'say' they are bipartisan, but I've never seen a left wing lobbying project. They would probably retain more workers if they were upfront in the first place. It helps to be a right winger, or maybe to not care about anything politically to do the job effectively.
SmartChic
08-26-2009, 06:37 AM
Regardless of what newspapers or periodicals say... it states in the NDA not to discuss certain things about the company.
That's what I believe, and I'm sticking with that. I have not disclosed anything so I'm not in violation of the NDA. Not jumping ugly or chastising ANYONE but trying to protect the information that the company deem as confidential.
NOTHING online states that you have to be "right winged" and what gladysathome stated was highly inappropiate and in direct violation of the NDA. I totally agree with jen6723 and believe what was stated on here was not right.
If you have no dog in this hunt... stop sniffing.
That's what I believe, and I'm sticking with that. I have not disclosed anything so I'm not in violation of the NDA. Not jumping ugly or chastising ANYONE but trying to protect the information that the company deem as confidential.
NOTHING online states that you have to be "right winged" and what gladysathome stated was highly inappropiate and in direct violation of the NDA. I totally agree with jen6723 and believe what was stated on here was not right.
If you have no dog in this hunt... stop sniffing.
crazymomma21
08-26-2009, 04:19 PM
I have been working on projects with OP@Home for going on 2 years, and so have many others. I have seen my fair share of BOTH sides of the fence. Is it more right winged? If it is, that is because republicans are willing to fork out the money for the efforts being made. Am I at all right winged, absolutely NOT!! I voted for Obama and I am extremely politically passionate. If you apply and you do not like it, fine. It is not for everyone... Yes articles have been written, you cannot believe everything you read.
As for those ppl "going ugly" -- gladysathome likes to throw that same sentence in every OP@Home post on this board, do a search and you will see thats all she talks about... and yes, not only has she worked for OP, I think that she still does! Come to your own determination about that!!!
As far as outbound calling, this type of outbound calling is like no other that I have found. It cannot hurt to take a little time to apply, do the assessments, and join the call that they hold about the company to find out more information. Do your research, and if you let a person you do not even know make the determination as to whether or not this opportunity is right for you, then it is your loss.
As for those ppl "going ugly" -- gladysathome likes to throw that same sentence in every OP@Home post on this board, do a search and you will see thats all she talks about... and yes, not only has she worked for OP, I think that she still does! Come to your own determination about that!!!
As far as outbound calling, this type of outbound calling is like no other that I have found. It cannot hurt to take a little time to apply, do the assessments, and join the call that they hold about the company to find out more information. Do your research, and if you let a person you do not even know make the determination as to whether or not this opportunity is right for you, then it is your loss.
crazymomma21
08-26-2009, 04:22 PM
Sucks when you don't have a resume to offer (been a SAHM for 5 yrs!) .... bummer .... :(
Why don't you apply anyway? Just list your past experience in the spot you can type for the resume. Take a chance and see what happens :-) It surely cannot hurt!!
Why don't you apply anyway? Just list your past experience in the spot you can type for the resume. Take a chance and see what happens :-) It surely cannot hurt!!
Oddvark57
08-27-2009, 07:52 AM
Regardless of what newspapers or periodicals say... it states in the NDA not to discuss certain things about the company.
That's what I believe, and I'm sticking with that. I have not disclosed anything so I'm not in violation of the NDA. Not jumping ugly or chastising ANYONE but trying to protect the information that the company deem as confidential.
NOTHING online states that you have to be "right winged" and what gladysathome stated was highly inappropiate and in direct violation of the NDA. I totally agree with jen6723 and believe what was stated on here was not right.
If you have no dog in this hunt... stop sniffing.
Luckily I live in a country that allows everyone to express an opinion on a particular subject--which is all Gladysathome's statement is.
And thanks for your opinion. As for expressing my own opinion, I'll keep sniffing away, thanks.
That's what I believe, and I'm sticking with that. I have not disclosed anything so I'm not in violation of the NDA. Not jumping ugly or chastising ANYONE but trying to protect the information that the company deem as confidential.
NOTHING online states that you have to be "right winged" and what gladysathome stated was highly inappropiate and in direct violation of the NDA. I totally agree with jen6723 and believe what was stated on here was not right.
If you have no dog in this hunt... stop sniffing.
Luckily I live in a country that allows everyone to express an opinion on a particular subject--which is all Gladysathome's statement is.
And thanks for your opinion. As for expressing my own opinion, I'll keep sniffing away, thanks.
rose3300
08-27-2009, 08:19 AM
True. But, I thought when you sign a contract/agreement you are held to it, by law?! Isn't that the whole point in signing it?
norcal08
08-27-2009, 08:27 AM
I was researching this company and the one thing that crossed my mind was their connection to lobbying of consumers on Republican issues. There is a Washington Post article on the company and its parent company. Now I know for some of us, we need to make some money. I totally understand that. But for me, I don't think I could feel good earning money on issues I am against. Just a thought.
Oddvark57
08-27-2009, 09:31 AM
True. But, I thought when you sign a contract/agreement you are held to it, by law?! Isn't that the whole point in signing it?
It is--but *general* statements about an organization (provided those statements aren't libelous or defamatory) can't really be covered in a NDA. It would not be enforceable. The company's own website characterizes its work as bipartisan in nature--which implies that the company works on both sides of the political fence.
She isn't discussing the clients, the projects, the method, processes, practices and/or technology through which the company conducts its business. Those are things this company might very well have a legitimate interest in keeping confidential. Not an opinion about the slant of their politics.
It is--but *general* statements about an organization (provided those statements aren't libelous or defamatory) can't really be covered in a NDA. It would not be enforceable. The company's own website characterizes its work as bipartisan in nature--which implies that the company works on both sides of the political fence.
She isn't discussing the clients, the projects, the method, processes, practices and/or technology through which the company conducts its business. Those are things this company might very well have a legitimate interest in keeping confidential. Not an opinion about the slant of their politics.
rose3300
08-27-2009, 09:40 AM
It is--but *general* statements about an organization (provided those statements aren't libelous or defamatory) can't really be covered in a NDA. It would not be enforceable. The company's own website characterizes its work as bipartisan in nature--which implies that the company works on both sides of the political fence.
She isn't discussing the clients, the projects, the method, processes, practices and/or technology through which the company conducts its business. Those are things this company might very well have a legitimate interest in keeping confidential. Not an opinion about the slant of their politics.
Thanks for explaining it! I don't know what would be crossing the line of the NDA so I will just stick to not saying anything..lol. The only thing I can say, is that not everyone is made for every job. I have enjoyed it, so far. Doesn't mean everyone will, I guess.
Thanks again
She isn't discussing the clients, the projects, the method, processes, practices and/or technology through which the company conducts its business. Those are things this company might very well have a legitimate interest in keeping confidential. Not an opinion about the slant of their politics.
Thanks for explaining it! I don't know what would be crossing the line of the NDA so I will just stick to not saying anything..lol. The only thing I can say, is that not everyone is made for every job. I have enjoyed it, so far. Doesn't mean everyone will, I guess.
Thanks again
AllieWhitt
08-27-2009, 10:53 AM
Well, I consider myself more Independent than anything. Some Republican issues I agree with and some I don't. Some Democratic issues I agree with, some I don't. So just because I ask someone a question which seems to be a "Republican" question does not mean I agree with their answer or viewpoint.
I believe a person could belong to any party and work at OnPoint, without compromising their values and beliefs. Just my opinion. If anyone is interested, I say apply and make the determination for yourself. You may like it or know that it's just not the right job for you. There are several WAH companies to apply to. No one company is going to be everyone's cup of tea.
Allie
I believe a person could belong to any party and work at OnPoint, without compromising their values and beliefs. Just my opinion. If anyone is interested, I say apply and make the determination for yourself. You may like it or know that it's just not the right job for you. There are several WAH companies to apply to. No one company is going to be everyone's cup of tea.
Allie
lovely222
08-28-2009, 09:45 AM
Is Onpoint really serious about these essays that they just sent me after I applied?
MsTrina80
08-28-2009, 10:00 AM
Is Onpoint really serious about these essays that they just sent me after I applied?
LOL. Tell me about it.
LOL. Tell me about it.
Emma25
08-28-2009, 10:17 AM
Thank you for the heads up, I will just check out on this one, I hope there's something for me as well.
jenb6723
08-28-2009, 12:20 PM
Is Onpoint really serious about these essays that they just sent me after I applied?
Yes they are, and if you want position with OnPoint you will need to take them seriously when writing them. If you don't like writing, this is not a position for you.
Yes they are, and if you want position with OnPoint you will need to take them seriously when writing them. If you don't like writing, this is not a position for you.
lrindesign
08-28-2009, 12:32 PM
Great tip. It also looks like they have Designer positions open as well. Does anyone know anything about what type of work this is?
crazymomma21
08-31-2009, 05:44 PM
Is Onpoint really serious about these essays that they just sent me after I applied?
LOL. Tell me about it.
Are you serious about a good wah opportunity?
LOL. Tell me about it.
Are you serious about a good wah opportunity?
khakigirl
08-31-2009, 05:47 PM
Are you serious about a good wah opportunity?
Amen. Don't expect something to just be handed to you. Be glad they don't just hire anyone because if they did, half of us wouldn't get a chance.
Amen. Don't expect something to just be handed to you. Be glad they don't just hire anyone because if they did, half of us wouldn't get a chance.
Libra
09-06-2009, 08:09 AM
Hello all,
I am new to the board. I just passed my assessment and I will have the overview call next week. I joined the forum because this was the only place I could find a discussion going on about on point, and since they keep so much hidden, I wanted to see if there was more info out there. I'm so glad you guys were having this discussion, I feel like I've been filled in. Truthfully I just about guessed right about what onpoint does.
Question, When you get to the overview call... and move on to the second assessment....
are you are good to go? Like, you're still not being screened after you've sent the paperwork?
Question, As far as the hours. They say you can work a minimum of 25 hours a week. What If I want to work 40? Is it always available?
Question, When the project assigned is over, If I am good at the job, is it likely that they will keep me working?
I know there may be portions of the questions you cannot answer, and if that is the case please don't. You would know better than I do.
I am really enthused about this position. As soon as I did the writing assessment I figured that this was right up my alley. I'm up for outbound calls as long as I'm not selling. And personally, I love to talk about current issues. I've seen how some people have been with on point for a long time, and I hope it turns out to be what I think it will be and I hope I can be a part of the company for the long term.
Thanks
Libra
I am new to the board. I just passed my assessment and I will have the overview call next week. I joined the forum because this was the only place I could find a discussion going on about on point, and since they keep so much hidden, I wanted to see if there was more info out there. I'm so glad you guys were having this discussion, I feel like I've been filled in. Truthfully I just about guessed right about what onpoint does.
Question, When you get to the overview call... and move on to the second assessment....
are you are good to go? Like, you're still not being screened after you've sent the paperwork?
Question, As far as the hours. They say you can work a minimum of 25 hours a week. What If I want to work 40? Is it always available?
Question, When the project assigned is over, If I am good at the job, is it likely that they will keep me working?
I know there may be portions of the questions you cannot answer, and if that is the case please don't. You would know better than I do.
I am really enthused about this position. As soon as I did the writing assessment I figured that this was right up my alley. I'm up for outbound calls as long as I'm not selling. And personally, I love to talk about current issues. I've seen how some people have been with on point for a long time, and I hope it turns out to be what I think it will be and I hope I can be a part of the company for the long term.
Thanks
Libra
MsTrina80
09-06-2009, 12:03 PM
Are you serious about a good wah opportunity?
Amen. Don't expect something to just be handed to you. Be glad they don't just hire anyone because if they did, half of us wouldn't get a chance.
Huh... I don't know about lovely but I was just saying that it's a serious part of the hiring process. Neither one of us ever stated that we felt that the requirement was too much or that we felt it was unfair so I don't get your statement nor do I understand why it would directed toward either of us. The topic that I was asked to write about was a fairly simple one and writing is something that I happen to be good at but I never turned it in because I was given a better opportunity with another company. So calm down. It isn't this serious.
Amen. Don't expect something to just be handed to you. Be glad they don't just hire anyone because if they did, half of us wouldn't get a chance.
Huh... I don't know about lovely but I was just saying that it's a serious part of the hiring process. Neither one of us ever stated that we felt that the requirement was too much or that we felt it was unfair so I don't get your statement nor do I understand why it would directed toward either of us. The topic that I was asked to write about was a fairly simple one and writing is something that I happen to be good at but I never turned it in because I was given a better opportunity with another company. So calm down. It isn't this serious.
zaksdarlin
09-06-2009, 05:30 PM
I have OnPoint friends and I hear it is a good paying job with wonderful support. However, I have heard some horror stories. One that deterred me from applying was the fact that they monitor/hear you the entire time you are on your shift, not just when you are on the phones. When I'm not on the phone, I like my freedom of privacy, when I am on the phone, then listen to me all you want to, because I understand quality control.
Also, I have heard if you do not like the campaign you were invited to, for whatever reason, you can simply turn it down and wait for the next one to come along.
I haven't applied because politics are not something I like to get into, for a lot of reasons...people can get downright nasty over politics.
Personally, I will stick to my non-phone jobs, but for others, it may just be the job you were hoping for. Good luck to all that apply.
Also, I have heard if you do not like the campaign you were invited to, for whatever reason, you can simply turn it down and wait for the next one to come along.
I haven't applied because politics are not something I like to get into, for a lot of reasons...people can get downright nasty over politics.
Personally, I will stick to my non-phone jobs, but for others, it may just be the job you were hoping for. Good luck to all that apply.
lovely222
09-06-2009, 09:05 PM
Thank you for your post MsTrina80. I think that we must think alike because I was offered another great opportunity as well and took that one instead. I totally agree with your statement and I think that our remarks were taking out of context. Thank you for clearing that up for the both of us :-)
Oddvark57
09-07-2009, 06:41 AM
I have OnPoint friends and I hear it is a good paying job with wonderful support. However, I have heard some horror stories. One that deterred me from applying was the fact that they monitor/hear you the entire time you are on your shift, not just when you are on the phones.
With all due respect, there are a number of very valid reasons I can think of not to pursue work with this company -- but this one's a little hard even for me to swallow. :)
With all due respect, there are a number of very valid reasons I can think of not to pursue work with this company -- but this one's a little hard even for me to swallow. :)
zaksdarlin
09-08-2009, 09:13 AM
Have someone ask their team leader about that one if you do not believe it. The whole time your connected via USB, they hear you. (Use your mute buttons girls!) This is the one of the main reasons why I will not apply to this company. Although I am glad it works for others.
mccoy138
09-08-2009, 09:25 AM
Thanks for the lead. I just applied. :)
libutterbeanie
09-08-2009, 04:07 PM
I think it's wise to be cautious with any company that demands such a high degree of secrecy and censorship.
MsTrina80
09-08-2009, 05:41 PM
Thank you for your post MsTrina80. I think that we must think alike because I was offered another great opportunity as well and took that one instead. I totally agree with your statement and I think that our remarks were taking out of context. Thank you for clearing that up for the both of us :-)
No problem.
No problem.
Oddvark57
09-08-2009, 07:24 PM
I think it's wise to be cautious with any company that demands such a high degree of secrecy and censorship.
Have to agree with you on that one.
Have to agree with you on that one.
Helena1
09-08-2009, 07:41 PM
Have someone ask their team leader about that one if you do not believe it. The whole time your connected via USB, they hear you. (Use your mute buttons girls!) This is the one of the main reasons why I will not apply to this company. Although I am glad it works for others.
any job is a personal fit, so I can't say apply or don't, the only thing I will say, is I worked for 2 other phone jobs, one IB and the other OB, they both do the same with the monitoring. Every company has some type of QC, you just may not realize it. As for OnPoint, so far I'm still loving it. It is the least amount of micro managing I've come across.
Finally, between researching their web site, and doing the assessment, I knew pretty well what I was getting into. It's either a job for you or it's not. Best luck to everyone.
any job is a personal fit, so I can't say apply or don't, the only thing I will say, is I worked for 2 other phone jobs, one IB and the other OB, they both do the same with the monitoring. Every company has some type of QC, you just may not realize it. As for OnPoint, so far I'm still loving it. It is the least amount of micro managing I've come across.
Finally, between researching their web site, and doing the assessment, I knew pretty well what I was getting into. It's either a job for you or it's not. Best luck to everyone.
zaksdarlin
09-09-2009, 04:57 AM
I believe in QC, however, if a person is not on the phone, there is no reason to monitor someone. If a person is on the phone, then yes, it is acceptable.
The secrecy of everything is also questionable. A place like this may get shut down if the wrong (or right) person gets wind of them.
Good luck girls.
The secrecy of everything is also questionable. A place like this may get shut down if the wrong (or right) person gets wind of them.
Good luck girls.
jenb6723
09-09-2009, 07:56 PM
[QUOTE=zaksdarlin;2440353]
The secrecy of everything is also questionable. A place like this may get shut down if the wrong (or right) person gets wind of them.
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No one is doing anything illegal, so why would you suggest they will get shut down. Don't make it sound like this is anything but a legitimate job just becuase you choose to not work for OnPoint.
The secrecy of everything is also questionable. A place like this may get shut down if the wrong (or right) person gets wind of them.
\QUOTE]
No one is doing anything illegal, so why would you suggest they will get shut down. Don't make it sound like this is anything but a legitimate job just becuase you choose to not work for OnPoint.
CNYwahm
09-09-2009, 08:00 PM
Then why not transparency? What would be the reason to fly under the radar?
jenb6723
09-09-2009, 08:01 PM
I think it's wise to be cautious with any company that demands such a high degree of secrecy and censorship.
Last time I checked, almost every company the has multiple clients requires a ND about who you are working with. Check out the message boards at workplacelikehome.com and see how they put **** in all the clients names so they don't get in troubel.
So are you saying that every single work from home company that has a ND and asks you to not speak about the work is something to be wary of? Everyone is so negitive about OnPoint yet I don't see this seething disgust directed at other companies.
Let people make thier own decision. These ridiculous posts could be steering people away from a great, well paying job.
Last time I checked, almost every company the has multiple clients requires a ND about who you are working with. Check out the message boards at workplacelikehome.com and see how they put **** in all the clients names so they don't get in troubel.
So are you saying that every single work from home company that has a ND and asks you to not speak about the work is something to be wary of? Everyone is so negitive about OnPoint yet I don't see this seething disgust directed at other companies.
Let people make thier own decision. These ridiculous posts could be steering people away from a great, well paying job.
gladysathome
09-10-2009, 03:47 PM
It's much more than "industry confidentiality". If anyone is interested in more details, PM me. Better to know full well what your responsibilities would be before you waste a lot of time training, etc.
jenb6723
09-10-2009, 05:35 PM
It's much more than "industry confidentiality". If anyone is interested in more details, PM me. Better to know full well what your responsibilities would be before you waste a lot of time training, etc.
What part of that ND do you not get gladys? You are in direct voilation of it by sharing any details about this position with a potentail candidate.
Folks, remember there are two side to every story and from the amount of complaining gladys does on every OnPoint thread, she must be pretty bitter.
I am very happy with OnPoint. Lots of people are very happy with OnPoint. Don't let her negativity scare you off.
What part of that ND do you not get gladys? You are in direct voilation of it by sharing any details about this position with a potentail candidate.
Folks, remember there are two side to every story and from the amount of complaining gladys does on every OnPoint thread, she must be pretty bitter.
I am very happy with OnPoint. Lots of people are very happy with OnPoint. Don't let her negativity scare you off.
jenb6723
09-10-2009, 05:42 PM
Then why not transparency? What would be the reason to fly under the radar?
Again I will ask, how many other work at home companies have a ND and ask you not to discuss clients names? My last brick and mortar job had a ND that prevented me from discussing clients. A ND is standard across many businesses. So why does everyone keep acting like OnPoint is the only place to ever use one.
You have a few very negative people who obviously did not like ( or couldn't do) this job and they are trying to make it seem like this is a shady job and scare people off.
OnPoint pays well, pays weekly, gives you a chance to speak with folks without having to use the same boring script for each call and allows completely flexible schedules with no weekends required.
Again I will ask, how many other work at home companies have a ND and ask you not to discuss clients names? My last brick and mortar job had a ND that prevented me from discussing clients. A ND is standard across many businesses. So why does everyone keep acting like OnPoint is the only place to ever use one.
You have a few very negative people who obviously did not like ( or couldn't do) this job and they are trying to make it seem like this is a shady job and scare people off.
OnPoint pays well, pays weekly, gives you a chance to speak with folks without having to use the same boring script for each call and allows completely flexible schedules with no weekends required.
mbondur12
09-10-2009, 06:28 PM
They did pay me well and paid me on time. I found out pretty quickly that I didn't like striking up off the cuff conversations with people I didn't know, so I left. It felt almost like I was selling these people something, even though I wasn't. If you like talking to people you don't know and can write reasonably well, give it a try. I don't have anything bad to say about their staff, but if I were given the opportunity again, I would pass.
CashCowOwner
09-11-2009, 06:18 AM
To Those Considering OnPoint!
My advice please don't allow the shortcomings or inability to do a job by someone else determine whether or not you will actually apply for a position with a company.
Though it is helpful to provide useful and accurate information to those applying for jobs that you have first HAND experience with it is never a good idea to discourage or talk badly about the position simply because it didn't work for you.
Always do your own due diligence even if you hear positive or negative things about a company. A few factors to consider when applying to work for any company.
1. Are they a reputable company?
2. Any issues or reports with BBB, or Rip Report or sites like that?
3. Can the company be verified are there current contact information on the companies website.
4. Does the company offer an overview or training, support, , and tools, and materials to perform the job.
5. Is there staff support and are they professional.
6. DOES the job PAY and do they have a proven track record of doing so on time.
Many of these questions will be on the website and if they are not contact the company directly and ask those questions no matter what someone else tells you get it from the source.
Of course there are more things to consider, but don't ever let someones personal opinion exclusively determine if you will consider an opportunity. If you have nothing to lose but time then why not go through the entire hiring process to form your own FIRST hand opinion and experience.
BTW: I was hired by OnPoint last week and I like the job just fine. What I will tell you is that this company provides you all of the tools,materials, and support you will ever need to perform the duties and responsibilities of this job. See for yourself!
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Melissa
My advice please don't allow the shortcomings or inability to do a job by someone else determine whether or not you will actually apply for a position with a company.
Though it is helpful to provide useful and accurate information to those applying for jobs that you have first HAND experience with it is never a good idea to discourage or talk badly about the position simply because it didn't work for you.
Always do your own due diligence even if you hear positive or negative things about a company. A few factors to consider when applying to work for any company.
1. Are they a reputable company?
2. Any issues or reports with BBB, or Rip Report or sites like that?
3. Can the company be verified are there current contact information on the companies website.
4. Does the company offer an overview or training, support, , and tools, and materials to perform the job.
5. Is there staff support and are they professional.
6. DOES the job PAY and do they have a proven track record of doing so on time.
Many of these questions will be on the website and if they are not contact the company directly and ask those questions no matter what someone else tells you get it from the source.
Of course there are more things to consider, but don't ever let someones personal opinion exclusively determine if you will consider an opportunity. If you have nothing to lose but time then why not go through the entire hiring process to form your own FIRST hand opinion and experience.
BTW: I was hired by OnPoint last week and I like the job just fine. What I will tell you is that this company provides you all of the tools,materials, and support you will ever need to perform the duties and responsibilities of this job. See for yourself!
------
Melissa
gladysathome
09-11-2009, 07:17 AM
Good advice Cash. I would add that if you have strong political feelings you might want to dive a little more into detail about what you will be doing before you accept the job. The only other thing that might seem a little weird is that you can't even tell your immediate family what you are doing because if media gets wind of it, (someone tells someone, they tell someone, etc) then their efforts could backfire.
Rya1
09-11-2009, 07:42 AM
I worked for Onpoint briefly and one project I worked on was great. The company itself pays pretty well in my opinion and on time. I found out two things about myself working for this company. 1. I hate outbound calling even if it is not sales. 2. I have strong views about some topics and have a hard time covering those to get a differing opinion from someone I am talking to.
Now with that said. I completely understand NDA's and the reasons for them. I am sure they have reasons for their extreme measures. Since the media does a good job of swaying opinions. I would say if you don't mind outbound calling with no sales and writing letters and if you do not have opinions of your own that are too strong to be able to be able to speak highly of a topic and get someone else's opinion on it then this is a great job.
I am definitely not an extreme conservative or extreme liberal and I do respect other people opinions. I think healthy debate is what makes this country a great place to live. However I cannot bring myself to represent views that are not my own. Now that is just me personally. If you can look at this like the job it is then it will probably be a great egg for you.
I do not think that anyone should make up their minds based on others opinions of this job. As a company like I said they are reputable and do pay on time. That is what most of us are concerned about when we try a work at home job. I would say if it sounds interesting to you go for it. That's what I did and found out it wasn't for me. But I am not everyone and it might be the best egg you have for you.
Okay enough rambling...sorry.....back to work for me. :)
Now with that said. I completely understand NDA's and the reasons for them. I am sure they have reasons for their extreme measures. Since the media does a good job of swaying opinions. I would say if you don't mind outbound calling with no sales and writing letters and if you do not have opinions of your own that are too strong to be able to be able to speak highly of a topic and get someone else's opinion on it then this is a great job.
I am definitely not an extreme conservative or extreme liberal and I do respect other people opinions. I think healthy debate is what makes this country a great place to live. However I cannot bring myself to represent views that are not my own. Now that is just me personally. If you can look at this like the job it is then it will probably be a great egg for you.
I do not think that anyone should make up their minds based on others opinions of this job. As a company like I said they are reputable and do pay on time. That is what most of us are concerned about when we try a work at home job. I would say if it sounds interesting to you go for it. That's what I did and found out it wasn't for me. But I am not everyone and it might be the best egg you have for you.
Okay enough rambling...sorry.....back to work for me. :)
jenb6723
09-11-2009, 08:01 AM
Good advice Cash. I would add that if you have strong political feelings you might want to dive a little more into detail about what you will be doing before you accept the job. The only other thing that might seem a little weird is that you can't even tell your immediate family what you are doing because if media gets wind of it, (someone tells someone, they tell someone, etc) then their efforts could backfire.
You are an outright witch gladys - I have never in my life come across someone with so much disgust that they feel they need to spew it everywhere they turn. I hope it is clear to everyone on this board that you are simply bitter about this job and no one takes you seriously.:p
You are an outright witch gladys - I have never in my life come across someone with so much disgust that they feel they need to spew it everywhere they turn. I hope it is clear to everyone on this board that you are simply bitter about this job and no one takes you seriously.:p
gladysathome
09-11-2009, 09:29 AM
I don't think I've said anything 'witchy' and have in fact said lots of good things about this company. I simply feel that people should be aware of what they will be doing in case they have an objection and don't find out until they are actually assigned a project (after all the training, etc.) I also question anything that would be so covert that you can't even tell your spouse what you do. OTHER than that - they pay well, pay on time and weekly, you can have a flexible schedule as long as you meet minimum hour requirements and meet quota, etc. Nothing wrong with 'eyes wide open'. People should have a clear conscious about a job and some may not want to feel like 'part of the problem' if they happen to have strong views one way or another. Nuf said. If anyone wants details on the nature of the job - pm me. Now I have to go whip up a potion for lunch....LOL
AllieWhitt
09-11-2009, 10:41 AM
How would they know WHAT you discussed with your spouse? I'm just saying.....
Unless you are mental enough to say....Uhmm hon, i am working on so and so and such and such...but don't tell cuz I have a ND Agreement... and then he actually contacted onpoint and said, Uhmmm my wife/husband just told me that blah blah blah....sheesh! rotflmao...
Whew!!
Allie
Unless you are mental enough to say....Uhmm hon, i am working on so and so and such and such...but don't tell cuz I have a ND Agreement... and then he actually contacted onpoint and said, Uhmmm my wife/husband just told me that blah blah blah....sheesh! rotflmao...
Whew!!
Allie
zaksdarlin
09-11-2009, 12:01 PM
You are an outright witch gladys - I have never in my life come across someone with so much disgust that they feel they need to spew it everywhere they turn. I hope it is clear to everyone on this board that you are simply bitter about this job and no one takes you seriously.:p
There has been nothing horribly wrong with Gladys' posts that have made her deserving of name calling. A discussion forum is for people who have mixed opinions on certain topics. Just because one does not agree with someone else's personal or professional experiences or views on the topic at hand - does not give them the right to say offensive things to others. When people ask for an opinion, you will get mixed reviews.
Now OnPoint isn't for everyone. Rya1 pretty much summed it up and if you are someone who can feel comfortable working for a company like this, more power to you. If not, then move on to better things. I personally prefer not to call strangers and discuss politics, it's too hostile of a field for me to personally work in. But does that make me a witch too?
I'm sorry that some people do not agree with you jenb6723, nor have nothing but all good things to say about this company like you do. But people do have a right to their own opinion. Did it ever occur to you that Gladys may no longer be under the NDA? It does expire you know.
I think enough has been said about this company within this thread and in my own opinion, I think the moderators should close it.
There has been nothing horribly wrong with Gladys' posts that have made her deserving of name calling. A discussion forum is for people who have mixed opinions on certain topics. Just because one does not agree with someone else's personal or professional experiences or views on the topic at hand - does not give them the right to say offensive things to others. When people ask for an opinion, you will get mixed reviews.
Now OnPoint isn't for everyone. Rya1 pretty much summed it up and if you are someone who can feel comfortable working for a company like this, more power to you. If not, then move on to better things. I personally prefer not to call strangers and discuss politics, it's too hostile of a field for me to personally work in. But does that make me a witch too?
I'm sorry that some people do not agree with you jenb6723, nor have nothing but all good things to say about this company like you do. But people do have a right to their own opinion. Did it ever occur to you that Gladys may no longer be under the NDA? It does expire you know.
I think enough has been said about this company within this thread and in my own opinion, I think the moderators should close it.
gladysathome
09-11-2009, 12:03 PM
Cuz, Allie, someone told their spouse once the the spouse mentioned it to a person at work who's wife happen to work for the Washington Post. It was a big deal and could put the kibosh on some of their efforts.
mas8251
09-11-2009, 12:19 PM
I did all the writing assignment and a conference call just to be told that if I wanted to work on the next project to notify them to be put on the waiting list. Well, I notified them and have heard nothing. So ask the question if you are being hired for the waiting list or if they have a project. It will save you a lot and time so you won't stress out over your writing input etc.
Oddvark57
09-11-2009, 12:33 PM
Cuz, Allie, someone told their spouse once the the spouse mentioned it to a person at work who's wife happen to work for the Washington Post. It was a big deal and could put the kibosh on some of their efforts.
And it was a great article too!!! :D
And it was a great article too!!! :D
desperatehswife
09-11-2009, 02:19 PM
Easy to do homework. Just search "onpoint advocacy" or "democracy data & communications". It's all public:
[]Monty's Toilet Reading Crooks and Liars Open Thread (http://www.thoughtandword.com/rss/Crooks_and_Liars/2009/08/28/)
Think Progress does a little digging and finds a lot of right wing groups under the covers with AHIP, the health insurance lobbying association. Whoever would have suspected such a thing?
Earlier this week, the Wall Street Journal reported that AHIP — the multimillion dollar lobbying juggernaut for the health insurance industry — has mobilized 50,000 employees to lobby Congress to defeat the public option. ThinkProgress has learned that AHIP’s grassroots lobbying is being managed by the corporate consulting firm Democracy Data & Communications. DDC has made a name for itself as one of the most effective stealth lobbying firms. Earlier this summer, DDC was caught by reporters using a front group called “Citizens for a Safe Alexandria” to attack the Obama administration for seeking to prosecute Guantanamo Bay prisoners in Alexandria, VA.
According to the server-information hub Domaintools.com, the AHIP grassroots outreach website AHIPAdvocacy.org is hosted on a server owned by DDC. Though DDC conceals the hosting of its other websites using a service called DomainsByProxy, ThinkProgress has obtained a list of the domains hosted on DDC servers. A review of this data shows that DDC maintains the grassroots outreach websites for large health insurance companies, but also for big tobacco and Koch Industries:
– phillipmorrisusaactioncenter.org (Altria)
– tobaccoissues.com (Altria)
– kochpac.com (Koch Industries)
– aetnavotes.com (Aetna)
– healthactionnetwork.org (WellPoint)
– humanapartners.com (Humana)
– ahipadvocacy.org (AHIP)
DDC is a firm that promises “high impact” outreach programs to not only influence the grassroots, but “change attitudes for the long term.” As the Washington Post explains, DDC pays over 500 contract workers to “spend much of their day telephoning people around the country and asking them to sign letters to Congress that press for legislation.” The firm helped orchestrate “grassroots” support for President Bush’s push to privatize Social Security, and helped manage online efforts for the right-wing attack group Freedom’s Watch. DDC is headed by B.R. McConnon, a former associate of Jack Abramoff’s lobbying partners, and a former employee of the Koch-funded astroturf organization known as Citizens for a Sound Economy.
Citizens for a Sound Economy — which has also received funds from private health insurers in the past and played a critical astroturf role in killing reform under Clinton — eventually split, with one wing forming Americans for Prosperity in 2003, and another forming FreedomWorks in 2004. Both organizations, which are still funded by the Koch Industries empire, were instrumental in organizing the anti-Obama tea party protests, and have been spreading misinformation and anger at the current health reform effort. Americans for Prosperity’s anti-health reform front group, Patients United, has hosted speakers comparing the House health reform bill to the Holocaust.
Curiously, DDC servers also host anti-health reform letters from the Chamber of Commerce and Rep. Charles Boustany (R-LA), as well as continual news updates about the reform debate. All three documents are under a subsection titled WellPoint.
Given the stealthy nature of astroturf lobbying firms, it is difficult to discern the extent to which DDC is managing AHIP’s efforts. UnitedHealth, another large insurer, was caught recently using a call center to direct people to a radical tea party anti-health reform protest outside of the offices of Rep. Zach Space (D-OH).
Already, the health insurance industry has flexed its muscle to water down reform. After spending millions on lobbying, advertising, and direct contributions to lawmakers, the Senate Finance Committee made a major concession allowing insurers to reimburse only 65% of medical bills (down from the 76% proposed requirement). And indeed, although AHIP has made grandiose promises of self regulation, many insurers have recently broke promises made by AHIP President Karen Ignagni. On June 16, despite Ignagni’s pledges of commitment, insurance executives from UnitedHealth Group, Assurant, and WellPoint specifically refused to “commit” to ending the controversial practice of rescinding coverage after an applicant files a medical claim.
With DDC’s stealth lobbying assistance, AHIP may well kill the public option too.
Update At the Wonk Room, Pat Garofalo reports that DDC also maintains an anti-Employee Free Choice Act website supported by the Independent Women’s Forum (IWF). The IWF, which is running anti-health reform ads, is another Koch Industries-funded front group that for a five year period operated out of the same office as Americans for Prosperity. DDC not only serves the health insurance industry, but plays a vital role for the constellation of Koch front groups.
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[]Monty's Toilet Reading Crooks and Liars Open Thread (http://www.thoughtandword.com/rss/Crooks_and_Liars/2009/08/28/)
Think Progress does a little digging and finds a lot of right wing groups under the covers with AHIP, the health insurance lobbying association. Whoever would have suspected such a thing?
Earlier this week, the Wall Street Journal reported that AHIP — the multimillion dollar lobbying juggernaut for the health insurance industry — has mobilized 50,000 employees to lobby Congress to defeat the public option. ThinkProgress has learned that AHIP’s grassroots lobbying is being managed by the corporate consulting firm Democracy Data & Communications. DDC has made a name for itself as one of the most effective stealth lobbying firms. Earlier this summer, DDC was caught by reporters using a front group called “Citizens for a Safe Alexandria” to attack the Obama administration for seeking to prosecute Guantanamo Bay prisoners in Alexandria, VA.
According to the server-information hub Domaintools.com, the AHIP grassroots outreach website AHIPAdvocacy.org is hosted on a server owned by DDC. Though DDC conceals the hosting of its other websites using a service called DomainsByProxy, ThinkProgress has obtained a list of the domains hosted on DDC servers. A review of this data shows that DDC maintains the grassroots outreach websites for large health insurance companies, but also for big tobacco and Koch Industries:
– phillipmorrisusaactioncenter.org (Altria)
– tobaccoissues.com (Altria)
– kochpac.com (Koch Industries)
– aetnavotes.com (Aetna)
– healthactionnetwork.org (WellPoint)
– humanapartners.com (Humana)
– ahipadvocacy.org (AHIP)
DDC is a firm that promises “high impact” outreach programs to not only influence the grassroots, but “change attitudes for the long term.” As the Washington Post explains, DDC pays over 500 contract workers to “spend much of their day telephoning people around the country and asking them to sign letters to Congress that press for legislation.” The firm helped orchestrate “grassroots” support for President Bush’s push to privatize Social Security, and helped manage online efforts for the right-wing attack group Freedom’s Watch. DDC is headed by B.R. McConnon, a former associate of Jack Abramoff’s lobbying partners, and a former employee of the Koch-funded astroturf organization known as Citizens for a Sound Economy.
Citizens for a Sound Economy — which has also received funds from private health insurers in the past and played a critical astroturf role in killing reform under Clinton — eventually split, with one wing forming Americans for Prosperity in 2003, and another forming FreedomWorks in 2004. Both organizations, which are still funded by the Koch Industries empire, were instrumental in organizing the anti-Obama tea party protests, and have been spreading misinformation and anger at the current health reform effort. Americans for Prosperity’s anti-health reform front group, Patients United, has hosted speakers comparing the House health reform bill to the Holocaust.
Curiously, DDC servers also host anti-health reform letters from the Chamber of Commerce and Rep. Charles Boustany (R-LA), as well as continual news updates about the reform debate. All three documents are under a subsection titled WellPoint.
Given the stealthy nature of astroturf lobbying firms, it is difficult to discern the extent to which DDC is managing AHIP’s efforts. UnitedHealth, another large insurer, was caught recently using a call center to direct people to a radical tea party anti-health reform protest outside of the offices of Rep. Zach Space (D-OH).
Already, the health insurance industry has flexed its muscle to water down reform. After spending millions on lobbying, advertising, and direct contributions to lawmakers, the Senate Finance Committee made a major concession allowing insurers to reimburse only 65% of medical bills (down from the 76% proposed requirement). And indeed, although AHIP has made grandiose promises of self regulation, many insurers have recently broke promises made by AHIP President Karen Ignagni. On June 16, despite Ignagni’s pledges of commitment, insurance executives from UnitedHealth Group, Assurant, and WellPoint specifically refused to “commit” to ending the controversial practice of rescinding coverage after an applicant files a medical claim.
With DDC’s stealth lobbying assistance, AHIP may well kill the public option too.
Update At the Wonk Room, Pat Garofalo reports that DDC also maintains an anti-Employee Free Choice Act website supported by the Independent Women’s Forum (IWF). The IWF, which is running anti-health reform ads, is another Koch Industries-funded front group that for a five year period operated out of the same office as Americans for Prosperity. DDC not only serves the health insurance industry, but plays a vital role for the constellation of Koch front groups.
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soccerlover20203
09-11-2009, 03:03 PM
i am thinking about working for them but i was wondering,
do you still get paid even if you do not meet the quotas? and how long before you are fired if you do not meet them?
do you still get paid even if you do not meet the quotas? and how long before you are fired if you do not meet them?
gladysathome
09-11-2009, 06:09 PM
I think they are most strict about the hourly requirement over the production quota. I believe people are let go weekly for not meeting the hourly requirement (which is usually 25 hours per week).
69corvair
09-12-2009, 10:36 PM
You may not like their politics, but there are organizations like this on both sides of the aisle using precisely the same tactics to accomplish the goals of their clients. I don't have a minute's problem with that. Last I heard, you were given the oppurtunity to decline work on a project by project basis if you could not bring yourself to do the work.
That said, they do pay well, and on time, but I have repeatedly warned people not to rely on this job as their sole source of income as there are significant periods during which there is no work. It's kind of like a bank loan - in order to get it and succeed at it, you must first prove that you don't need it. Best of luck.
That said, they do pay well, and on time, but I have repeatedly warned people not to rely on this job as their sole source of income as there are significant periods during which there is no work. It's kind of like a bank loan - in order to get it and succeed at it, you must first prove that you don't need it. Best of luck.
Oddvark57
09-13-2009, 05:47 AM
I have repeatedly warned people not to rely on this job as their sole source of income as there are significant periods during which there is no work.
I think with the democratic party firmly in power in the House and Senate there will be work aplenty for astroturfing firms over the next three years.
I think with the democratic party firmly in power in the House and Senate there will be work aplenty for astroturfing firms over the next three years.
crazymomma21
09-14-2009, 03:24 PM
It's much more than "industry confidentiality". If anyone is interested in more details, PM me. Better to know full well what your responsibilities would be before you waste a lot of time training, etc.
Good Idea! PM her for details so she can once again breech confiedentiality and potentially put 200+ people out of work by spewing client names and what we do! I hope you can sleep at night knowing that your talking about everything OP could affect the rest of us feeding our familys, I myself, as well as MANY of us here at OP are frankly sick of it. You hijack every OP thread on this board. Share your opinions, fine, but stop with the negativity -- and thanks for throwing once nice post into the crowd of negatives...
Good Idea! PM her for details so she can once again breech confiedentiality and potentially put 200+ people out of work by spewing client names and what we do! I hope you can sleep at night knowing that your talking about everything OP could affect the rest of us feeding our familys, I myself, as well as MANY of us here at OP are frankly sick of it. You hijack every OP thread on this board. Share your opinions, fine, but stop with the negativity -- and thanks for throwing once nice post into the crowd of negatives...
crazymomma21
09-14-2009, 03:30 PM
I have OnPoint friends and I hear it is a good paying job with wonderful support. However, I have heard some horror stories. One that deterred me from applying was the fact that they monitor/hear you the entire time you are on your shift, not just when you are on the phones. When I'm not on the phone, I like my freedom of privacy, when I am on the phone, then listen to me all you want to, because I understand quality control.
Also, I have heard if you do not like the campaign you were invited to, for whatever reason, you can simply turn it down and wait for the next one to come along.
I haven't applied because politics are not something I like to get into, for a lot of reasons...people can get downright nasty over politics.
Personally, I will stick to my non-phone jobs, but for others, it may just be the job you were hoping for. Good luck to all that apply.
Since everyone is so concerned with secrets and truth telling etc... let me ask you this, you said above you have OP friends, and something deterred you from "applying" why dont you just tell people that you worked for them in the past? Then you say on the boards that you quit, (http://www.wahm.com/forum/telecommuting-moms-34/429302-onpoint-hiring-again-4.html#post2375627) but then you worked for them again... so anyway, why would you say what you said above if you just "giving your opinions" and being truthful?? I am not saying this to be rude, I am just sick of coming to this board and seeing people bash OP rather than give their opinion, such as one poster did, and although it was not right for her, she stated her opinion, period.
If you are concerned with QC, ask someone about it -- every company has QC... they are doing nothing wrong, and they are not spying on you while you are not on a call for pete's sake...
And on a personal note I must say that OP MUST be doing a bang up job with something like 200, or maybe even more now, IC's working and stirring up so much controversy!! WAY TO GO OP!
Also, I have heard if you do not like the campaign you were invited to, for whatever reason, you can simply turn it down and wait for the next one to come along.
I haven't applied because politics are not something I like to get into, for a lot of reasons...people can get downright nasty over politics.
Personally, I will stick to my non-phone jobs, but for others, it may just be the job you were hoping for. Good luck to all that apply.
Since everyone is so concerned with secrets and truth telling etc... let me ask you this, you said above you have OP friends, and something deterred you from "applying" why dont you just tell people that you worked for them in the past? Then you say on the boards that you quit, (http://www.wahm.com/forum/telecommuting-moms-34/429302-onpoint-hiring-again-4.html#post2375627) but then you worked for them again... so anyway, why would you say what you said above if you just "giving your opinions" and being truthful?? I am not saying this to be rude, I am just sick of coming to this board and seeing people bash OP rather than give their opinion, such as one poster did, and although it was not right for her, she stated her opinion, period.
If you are concerned with QC, ask someone about it -- every company has QC... they are doing nothing wrong, and they are not spying on you while you are not on a call for pete's sake...
And on a personal note I must say that OP MUST be doing a bang up job with something like 200, or maybe even more now, IC's working and stirring up so much controversy!! WAY TO GO OP!
gladysathome
09-14-2009, 03:47 PM
You're concerned about putting 200 people out of work, Crazy? What about the OP project that is working against the new corporate restructuring plan that is taking ALL out jobs outside the country. The new admin whats to bring those jobs back here, I have no idea of the figure, but we all know that all the major corps have outside call centers in India, South America, etc. (Dell, Verizon, Time Warner, etc etc.). If OP fails at their lobbying task, then just maybe those jobs will come back here. Those corporations are profiting big time at our expense by getting cheap labor elsewhere and jumping thru the tax loopholes. It's so ironic that the only at home job now seems to be to cut our noses off at our face.
tea4two
09-14-2009, 04:18 PM
i really hope you get let go for violating your NDA ... this is wrong...
let people apply and get hired and discover themselves...
let people apply and get hired and discover themselves...
soccerlover20203
09-14-2009, 04:27 PM
I think they are most strict about the hourly requirement over the production quota. I believe people are let go weekly for not meeting the hourly requirement (which is usually 25 hours per week).
so you are saying that if you do not work 25 hours in a week you are fired that week? i was given the impression by some people that they have a 3 strikes policy regarding hours.
so you are saying that if you do not work 25 hours in a week you are fired that week? i was given the impression by some people that they have a 3 strikes policy regarding hours.
crazymomma21
09-14-2009, 04:36 PM
You're concerned about putting 200 people out of work, Crazy? What about the OP project that is working against the new corporate restructuring plan that is taking ALL out jobs outside the country. The new admin whats to bring those jobs back here, I have no idea of the figure, but we all know that all the major corps have outside call centers in India, South America, etc. (Dell, Verizon, Time Warner, etc etc.). If OP fails at their lobbying task, then just maybe those jobs will come back here. Those corporations are profiting big time at our expense by getting cheap labor elsewhere and jumping thru the tax loopholes. It's so ironic that the only at home job now seems to be to cut our noses off at our face.
Wow another violation of ND, and this also tells me your likely still working with OP or have very recently, which means your ND is still in effect. -- my point right now, at this very moment is that OP is feeding MY KIDS! You are are interfering with that everytime you talk about a client.
Wow another violation of ND, and this also tells me your likely still working with OP or have very recently, which means your ND is still in effect. -- my point right now, at this very moment is that OP is feeding MY KIDS! You are are interfering with that everytime you talk about a client.
gladysathome
09-14-2009, 06:14 PM
That might be the case Soccer - I'm not sure. I think it's up to the discretion of the payroll person. It may vary by project as well. But I believe that hours are more important that production quotas although I'm sure both are important so they meet their goals and deadlines.
soccerlover20203
09-18-2009, 11:44 AM
That might be the case Soccer - I'm not sure. I think it's up to the discretion of the payroll person. It may vary by project as well. But I believe that hours are more important that production quotas although I'm sure both are important so they meet their goals and deadlines.
And how exactly do they obtain the $50 fee from you if you end your contract early?
And how exactly do they obtain the $50 fee from you if you end your contract early?
sixmonkeyjungle
09-18-2009, 01:35 PM
They take it out of your paycheck.