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bbrown1226
01-19-2006, 03:26 PM
Has anyone w/ an arbonne website received emails from other countries for large orders? I received one today and I am very suspicious and was wondering if this has happend to anyone.


Meg J
01-19-2006, 03:32 PM
I'm not with Arbornne but saw the post - I have one a week - I have replied and told them I need the money up front - they vanish - well yesterday I got one - and they kept communicating - well come to find out from AVON - that there is lots of complications with shipping out of country - tarriff laws and more - they acutally told me it was illegal -


So I e-mailed the person back and told them I would have to ship to her in Texas and then she would have to arrange to get it to it's final destination - never heard back -


I don't think I've heard of one that went through - they are scams - at least 90 % of the time


Someday when I have time I'm going to research that whole thing further -


Meg

bbrown1226
01-19-2006, 03:47 PM
Yeah, I called arbonne to see if this has happened alot and they said as long as they are using an american credit card, I could have it sent to me and then I would send it to them personally. He said he is going to give me is credit card info. I am pretty confident it is a scam, but I wanted to know if this was happening to others.


Its just weird though. What would they want w/ a bunch of arbonne products? There is no way they would get products w/o paying up front and the credit card actually going through. I think, if I hear back from him and he gives me the cc info., I will call the credit card company to see if it is a stolen card.


cindi8d
01-19-2006, 03:53 PM
I would say if you don't them, don't sell it to them....


Just my 2 cents...

MyLittleRiley
01-19-2006, 04:06 PM
I agree. If you think it is a scam, then do not ship.

MegJB
01-20-2006, 08:19 AM
Yes, Don't do it.It's probably a stolen credit card, and If you place the order on behalf of this person, you will be responsible for the charges.


If it seems to good to be true, it probably is!

albaat
01-20-2006, 12:39 PM
It's a scam and it's done in every industry.....office supplies, electronics and pretty much anything they can make a profit by re-selling. Think about it, why would they e-mail you out of thin air and want to place an order. Don't do it.

bbrown1226
01-20-2006, 12:56 PM
I have thought about it that is why I am postingsmileys/smiley2.gif. I want to know how other people have handled this. He sent the credit card info. and I called visa and located the bank it was issued through. The name on the card does not match and when I confirmed this w/ the person I was talking to, they didn't seem concerned. I said, well, shouldn't this card be flagged or the cardholder be notified?? She told me since I didn't know Arbonne merchant i.d. #, all they could do was call the cardholder and go over previous purchases w/ them, but not say why??? Unbelievable! Some guy from Nigeria is trying to spend $4000 on their card and she is treating me like I am suspicious!!!


I talked w/ arbonne about this and they said lately this has been a big issue. She also wanted to confirm that we cannot send product outside of the U.S or Canada, unless its a military address, APO. This totally conflicts w/ what I was told yesterday by someone from Arbonne and the supervisor. I let the person today, Tanita ??, know I was told different yesterday and that the people answering the phone should all be on the same page.


I just want everyone to know DO NOT ACCEPT OVERSEA ORDERS, even if they sound legit. By the time the cc is disputed, you probably have already sent the product to them and Arbonne will come after YOU for the product since it was sent to you.Edited by: bbrown1226

bbrown1226
01-20-2006, 01:40 PM
bump

JeniJeanne
01-20-2006, 08:06 PM
I was on another message board for scrapping and one of the women there had the same thing happen. This is a SCAM and you should just tell the person NO. Also be aware that they are using the telephone service for the deaf (it's not TTY but something else I can't remeber what it is called) to call up consultants and do the same thing.


EVERYONE PLEASE BE AWARE OF THIS AND EITHER HANG UP OR EMAIL THAT IT CANNOT BE DONE!!!!!!!


Edited by: JeniJeanne

Meg J
01-20-2006, 09:36 PM
I was talking to one of my fellow hardware store owner friends today - one of the local stores had this happen and what ended up happening - (they fell for it) - was all went through - credit card was good - but then once the goods were shipped the cardholder reversed the charge and the store was out about 1000 worth of goods - that was the final nail the coffin in my brain !!!


We got another e=mail today at our store wanting 500 of two different kinds of spark plus - what a hoot - I am totally convinced now - don't even respond -


Live and Learn - at least none of us had to get burned on this one


Meg

chrlstoncharmed
01-21-2006, 07:17 AM
This same thing happened to a consultant in my downline. A "school in Nigeria" (aka "scammer" LOL) ordered 10 of everything from her and sent her a CC number right off the bat. She called the CC company and sure enough, it was a stolen card. <!--
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saint854
01-21-2006, 06:06 PM
Scams come in so many shapes and sizes. I've seen the Nigerian ones before.


In fact, I've received at least a dozen emails over the past few years telling me that a distant, yet wealthy, relative of mine has passed away and the email sender is an attorney (or some kind of authority) looking for my relative's next of kin. According to those emails, I'd stand to inherit millions of dollars! Wouldn't that be nice???? Nah, I think I'll stick with Arbonne to make my millions. smileys/smiley2.gif


Oh, and here's another story.The details are a little fuzzy but here's the gist. I used to work in the corporate headquarters (in NY) of a major corporation and about 10 years ago, we got a call from an employee who was traveling to California from one of our overseas companies. He said he was turning to us for help because his wallet had been stolen. He further said that his manager (which was a very senior person in our overseas company) was on vacation and he knew nobody in the states. From a factual standpoint, his story was plausible - he had dropped all the right names in the company.


We arranged to wire some money (around $500, I think) to Western Union in California.Well, you all know where this story is heading. This guy managed to dupe about 6 of us, many of us senior level folks! Needless to say, that's anotherstory I rememberwhen something doesn't sound right....