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Did anyone listen to these calls? I was inspired. Overall much the same as what I have heard before, but some of the little details could make a big difference, I think.


Anyone have thoughts on this, if you listened?


I wondered about her method of going directly from demo-kit drop off to a three-way call with consultant, sponsor and prospect, before you even pick up the demo-kit.


What if the person is absolutely not interested? Would this be a total waste of everyone's time? I like the idea, in theory, because at this point my sponsor has a much better story than me and is miles better at telling it, too. My sponsor thought you maybe would need an extra step to assess their general interest. What do you think?

I listened to the first one but I haven't listened to the second one yet...probably tonight. I'm so excited!


I love the calls! They are so helpful to my business growth!

Does anyone have the number to the second call?


If we all do what Hannah did we should all be RVP's in no time! smileys/smiley36.gif

Cindi & Jennifer,


Did your sponsor listen to the call, too? Are they on board with it?


Just curious how this would work if your sponsor has not listened to the call. Mine has not. But I guess I could explain to her briefly?


I am excited to implement, too!!!Edited by: Shana

can you post the number again please?

The original call is 212.990.7056 and the follow-up is 212.990.6971. Would love to hear your thoughts after you listen!!!

Cindi & Jennifer,


Did your sponsor listen to the call, too? Are they on board with it?


Just curious how this would work if your sponsor has not listened to the call. Mine has not. But I guess I could explain to her briefly?


I am excited to implement, too!!!








I gave her the information, but I do not believe she has listened to it yet. She is an NVP and is having a big NY training this weekend, so she is busy preparing for that. Plus, she has built her entire business and network on doing parties so I am not sure she would be on board with it....

Jennifer - So when they recommend to have a 3-way call with your sponsor and the prospect before you pick up the demo kit, will your sponsor be on the call with you or will you have someone else or will it just be a 2-way call?


I am wondering how to do this, as my sponsor did not seem too thrilled about the idea of doing a 3-way call for every person who tries a demo kit, but she did say she wants to help in any way she can so I know she will do it if I ask her to and if we can work out timing smileys/smiley1.gif

Shana-


It's always helpful if your sponsor is doing the same system with you but if they aren't don't let that deter you. Hannah's sponsor, though fabulous, did not do this with her. Hannah worked through it herself & then perfected it with her team as she went.


My sponsor no longer works it as a business plus she was more comfortable with the party system. My RVP has stepped in to work with me but I've pretty much been teaching myself & my team the approach. I know my RVP is there when I need her but I'm one of those types that doesn't like to ask for help, though I am always happy to give it, & I know she's swamped with others who do need the help.


If you have some BB's then do the 3 way with them. If you have a friend who is in a side line then do it with them. If you don't have anyone like that & can't coordinate with your sponsor then just take the plunge & do it yourself, then once you have BB's always do it with them. Just make it work however you need to until have have people to do 3 ways with. smileys/smiley1.gif


Edited by: Soonergirl74

Shana-


It's always helpful if your sponsor is doing the same system with you but if they aren't don't let that deter you. Hannah's sponsor, though fabulous, did not do this with her. Hannah worked through it herself & then perfected it with her team as she went.


My sponsor no longer works Arbonne as a business plus she was more comfortable with the party system. My RVP has stepped in to work with me but I've pretty much been teaching myself & my team the approach. I know my RVP is there when I need her but I'm one of those types that doesn't like to ask for help, though I am always happy to give it, & I know she's swamped with others who do need the help.


If you have some BB's then do the 3 way with them. If you have a friend who is in a side line then do it with them. If you don't have anyone like that & can't coordinate with your sponsor then just take the plunge & do it yourself, then once you have BB's always do it with them. Just make it work however you need to until have have people to do 3 ways with. smileys/smiley1.gif











I will probably do as you mentioned. I am not sure my NVP will want to do calls with me, but then again her focus is getting me to RVP so there may be a chance of getting her on board. If not, I am going to train my team on it and do it with them.

Jennifer (Sooner Girl) - Thanks for the encouragement!


I did my first drop-off using this method today, and I followed Hannah's recommendation. SO easy! Thank goodness for this call. The only hard part was not lapsing into old habits of saying too much!!! Now I am excited for the follow-up call.


Oh, and I guess we all need several copies of the 45-Second Presentation book, right?


I listened to the Learn and Burn w/ Rick Teague that she mentioned and I actually like it better than the Arbonne Now CD, so I think I will make copies and give that with the book and information packet.

Jennifer, perhaps once she sees how effective it is she will be more into it. I think it's just a huge paradigm shift from the previous approach.


Congrats Shana! I'm right there with you on the habit of saying too much. It's hard for a lot of us to not vomit Arbonne on people, lol.


Yep, you'll need several 45 Second books to start off your team right. I typically let someone keep one of my books if they sign on but try to get it back from those who don't. You can get them at https://smarttools.securesites.com/.


The Rick Teague L&B is good. I just wish he'd do another so it has the newest info! His Thursday night calls are good too. We are just so blessed to have so many tools to use to grow our businesses!

Whenever we promote DM's out we gift them with flowers from their sponsor, a book from their AM, a bracelet from their RVP, and a charm for the bracelet from the NVP. I ALWAYS give the 45 second presentation as the BOOK!!


Maybe give them one when they promote to DM??

Where do you find the Rick Teague Learn and burn, I went through the archives and couldn't find it...


does anyone know the name of it or where to find it?


thanks

The Learn and Burn is under Stepping Up to Management, January 27, 2005.


I agree with Jennifer that it would be wonderful if this were updated to reflect current information. It is still awesome, though! I also like Tracks 2 and 3 on the Arbonne Now CD but am not fond of Track 1. Robert T. Kiyosaki sounds so angry IMHO.


I think you'll love that Learn and Burn. I plan on making several copies this weekend smileys/smiley1.gif

I heard Robert Kiyosaki today at an Arbonne training in Dallas and it was awesome. I would suggest that anyone that is doing Arbonne as a business invest in one or two of his books or cd's. He is a smart man with good concepts.

I heard Robert Kiyosaki today at an Arbonne training in
Dallas and it was awesome. I would suggest that anyone that is
doing Arbonne as a business invest in one or two of his books or
cd's. He is a smart man with good concepts.



He's very wrong on the technical stuff, but I hear he sells lots of books anyway.

Mocha:


Can you please reck havoc on another message board. Just so everyone is aware, mocha is a disgruntled woman who was not successful in her network marketing business and has a need to spread her negativity on various boards at wahm.

Mocha:


Can you please reck havoc on another message board. Just so
everyone is aware, mocha is a disgruntled woman who was not successful
in her network marketing business and has a need to spread her
negativity on various boards at wahm.



Oh honey, I was successful. But that's neither here nor
there. WHat does my success level in a business have to do with
the fact that the guy provides very bad information and advice?



P.S. "reck havoc" is close but not quite. May I suggest a dictionary?

Mocha - please go to another board. Our board is very supportive and positive. We are here to help each other with the business and our products.

Yes Darla you are sooo right about Mocha, I also frequent the Mary Kay Boards ( I'll admit it, I'm a sales training junkie and learn from evrybody, lol)and thought that she was only limiting her bile and venom to Mk'ers, unfortunatley I see that it's not true. This seems to be a very suppotive group..ignore the distraction

Y'all are funny.

I heard Robert Kiyosaki today at an Arbonne training in Dallas and it was awesome. I would suggest that anyone that is doing Arbonne as a business invest in one or two of his books or cd's. He is a smart man with good concepts.

He's very wrong on the technical stuff, but I hear he sells lots of books anyway.



Hmmm, interesting. But until you back up your opinion with facts I'm afraid I'll have to dismiss it.


Kiyosaki sells a lot of books b/c a lot of people who have read his books & follow his advice have found financial freedom. As they say...proof is in the pudding.


Shana,I agree with you about Kiyosaki's track on the NOW CD. I have been a fan of his since way back when I first read Rich Dad, Poor Dad. When I listened to that part of the CD I thought that it might be off-putting to some people b/c he is so blunt.


I was in Dallas yesterday also & listened to him. The man does not sugar coat ANYTHING. Which is actually a trait I appreciate. And I thought he was funny. I am sure a lot of people who didn't know who he was before yesterday were a little startled by him. But I figure he's like that b/c he's so passionate about what he talks about & he certainly knows his stuff. And really things he talked aboutshouldn't be sugar coated.


But for a CD like what we use he prob should tone it down just a bit,lol.

Jennifer, you expressed my thoughts exactly smileys/smiley1.gif I think what he says on Track 1 is so true, it is just how he says it. I think his approach (on the CD, anyway) wouldappeal maybe to men a bit more than women, in general though not in all cases. My husband loved that when he first listened. I just think the L&B with Rick Teague would have broader appeal more because of the overall tone, so I plan on giving it out vs. the Arbonne Now, unless I think the person would particularly like Kiyosaki's approach.

If you like it, fine. It's just that REAL financial experts say
that his stuff is hooey, which it is. Saying that those who read
his book have financial freedom SOUNDS nice, but there's no cause and
effect there even if it is true.



Did you read the disclaimer in his book? It essentially says that
all stories are made up even though he makes it sound like they're
real. i.e. There was no rich dad and no poor dad. Whatever floats
your boat.



So in the end, the fact that his information sucks is truly my
opinion. Based upon plenty of research of the dude. But I
don't expect anyone to agree or disagree with me. It is what it
is, and that's it.

Arbonne ladies, Mocha is everywhere, just like a pestering fly. Just
swat her away and don't let her bother you. Most flies are full
of c*** anyway! smileys/smiley36.gif I hope you all have a sense of humor!</span>

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thats hysterical, thats exactly how i see it, you are too funny cvkjafra.


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Mocha, you have your opinion &amp; I have mine. You say "real"financial experts claim his stuff is hooey. That isn't backing up your claim with facts. That's giving me more opinion. I don't know who these experts are or what makes them experts so it means nothing to me. As far as saying people have found financial freedom after following his advice, I have to believe the people when they attribute it to him. If they lived it, did &amp; say they have financial freedom because of it then who am I or you to say they didn't? I think they know how they created their wealth.


And I really don't care if he really has a rich dad or poor dad, that isn't the point. The point is his information about finances. I don't care if he uses creative license to get the point across.


I also like to research things before I buy into them. So your research tells you one thing &amp; mine tells me another. No biggie. And I am sure that most people do not take his advice &amp; only his. Typically when learning about subjects people learn from a variety of sources. They form their own beliefs from that combined information.


cvk, too funny. But people like mocha don't bother me. I don't get worked up over people who appear to want to just cause trouble. smileys/smiley1.gifEdited by: Soonergirl74

I am really glad to hear that you so wisely and thoroughly researched
this guy before taking any of his advice. It was very prudent of
you.

SOrry I brought up the Kiyosaki talk in Dallas.. didn't mean to cause so much controversy. By the way, my husband is a "real" financial advisor and was there with me, sitting next to another friend who is also in the financial industry. He did agree that Kiyosaki's theories are interesting and many of his statements are simplified, as well as risky.


The way he speaks makes financial freedom sound easy and it's essential that you have someone who knows what they are doing help you reach that point.


Of course I am biased because that is my husband's job, but I think the important thing is that Kiyosaki advises individuals to TAKE CONTROL of their financial future instead of waiting for someone else to do it for them.


There may be disagreements as to how to go about that, but the fact of the matter is that the goverment and corporate America are not going to provide enough money for retirement and freedom.


It is important to educate yourself and to speak to someone who can show you the tools to gain financial independence. Making a lot of money isn't the answer, but being in a business like Arbonne is a good step. It is really important to know what to do once you start making that money though, or you'll end up in the same place as you would if you were in a corporation. Make sure you have a plan and get someone to help you figure out the best plan for YOUR future.

Exactly Shelya! smileys/smiley32.gif

Shelya - Please don't feel bad for bringing up the Kiyosaki talk in Dallas!!! I was the one who brought him up in the first place and I do not feel bad at all that a discussion ensued smileys/smiley1.gif. I think mosteveryone who responded have been very nice, and there is nothing wrong with getting different viewpoints smileys/smiley1.gif!


I was really glad to hear your perspective, because the only time I listened to him was on the Arbonne Now CD. I would love to be able to attend a meeting and hear him speak! Edited by: Shana

Okay, I have listened to Hannah's training 3 times already. Going to listen to it again today with a BB. I understand her theory of exposing the person 3-4 times, but I am having a hard time understanding the 3 way call theory....when are we supposed to do that? I rewound (?) that part quite a few times and I am not sure when we are supposed to call them on 3way?


Anyone?


Also, has anyone started doing this? If so, what have your experiences been thus far?

My sponsor and upline had actually started this when they went to see Don and Nancy Failla. They loved them. Even got web sites through them.. Although Hannah is a little more detailed which I like. I have a very very bad habit of vomiting. Anyway them process that Hannah has is similar to our they recommend the 3 way calling too. Although I also like the 2:1 approach as well at pick up.

Jennifer-


My NVP wrote out the steps for us. See if it helps you with when to do the 3 way call. Our Nation does it, I'm under the same NVP as Hannah. We did the system but didn't break it up like Hannah does in such small pieces. Started doing it &amp; so far it is working very well.






Break it down like this for your prospects…small repeat exposures…Hannah will walk you thru the “how to’s” for these steps and give you VERBIAGE!

1. 5 minutes- the initial contact ask them to take a peek at Arbonne – set up drop off or 3 way call
2. (Optional step) 5 minutes- the drop off, why you are doing Arbonne, this might be a fit for them…you want their feedback. OR if you are NOT doing a “drop off”, skip this step and go to the next step.
3. 15 minutes– do a 3 way call or a 2 on one appointment you can use upline, sideline, buddy, etc., and talk about why Arbonne is the right company, time, and product and comp plan (do not go into details of promotion, qualification, start up orders, etc.)
4. Biz OP!- have them attend a biz op with you or else listen to the live Biz Op call on Thursday night with Rick Teague or your upline
5. Close- meet with them, show them how we make money, what start up orders they want to pick, what order they pick will be a ripple effect to their team, then have them make their list of contacts and why’s and repeat the process.

Thanks Jennifer! That does help a bit.


We do this approach in our Nation, but it isn't broken down that way. I guess I really need to start practicing! Maybe this is why I am stuck at Area, trying to get classes/presentations booked!





Thanks again!

You're welcome!


I think once everyone gets used to doing it this way we'll all find it much easier than classes. I'm doing what you did &amp; listening to the call several times. Then I broke up my material to fit Stacy's 5 written steps. I think my biggest thing is getting used to having someone with me on my calls. I do it for my team but have done my personal calls by myself.


It'll be second nature to you in no time. I know you'll be picking out your car very soon!

I am going to re-post a question I posted on a separate thread. Jennifer (myarbonne) thanks for your response over there! Just want to see what everyone else is doing!


As a follow-up to Step 3 above, for those interested in the business, Hannah said she drops of a CD, the 45-Second Presentation book, and a business pack. What is in the business pack?

Shana-


You can put whatever you think would be helpful. Here is what I usually include in mine.
<UL>
<LI>Eye on Arbonne</LI>
<LI>Catalog</LI>
<LI>Application that is signed</LI>
<LI>The Before &amp; After</LI>
<LI>Arbonne NOW Brochure</LI>
<LI>11x17 Product Line Overview</LI>
<LI>Sample Pack if applicable</LI>
<LI>CD</LI>
<LI>45 Second Book</LI>[/list]

Thanks, Jennifer.


I need to assemble some to have ready. I always make them up as I go but I think it will be nice to standardize them and just have them on hand.

Is anyone on Hannah's team? I think she is in my nation, because several on my team are attending her car presentation &amp; training with Shad Helmstetter this Fri &amp; Sat. I'm going, can't wait!!

Also - I need this training because I talk TOO MUCH!!!! I just don't know what to talk about &amp; what to leave out!! I just want to tell all of it!!!!! I feel like I should talk about the products to get the initial order, but then there is no time left to talk about the business!!!!!

I'm not on Hannah's team. Her sponsor is my NVP. If you go up through Thorn then you guys are in the same Nation.


Her car presentation will be awesome! I would love to go but can't. We had tickets to see George Strait on Friday. Plus I just went to Dallas this past weekend for the Defining Moments one. Have you heard Shad speak? He is so amazing, you'll love it! He was at our CATS last year &amp; I was just mesmerized, lol.


I think talking too much is a commin problem. We are all so excited &amp; love it so much it's easy to vomit on everyone we see. Just gotta resist the urge somehow. smileys/smiley1.gif

There are not Biz Op meetings in my area. So, I will probably do a three-way call for the Thursday night opportunity call with Rick Teague. Just wondering ... how important is it to get the person to a Biz Op within 48 hours of the last contact? If I drop off the CD, book, business pack on a Friday, would it be okay to wait until the next Thursday to get on the call or would it be better to listen to one of the recorded opportunity calls?


What do you think?

Oh, no, back-to-back posts from me smileys/smiley1.gif.


I just wanted to thank the person who shared that link for the 45-Second Presentation book earlier on this thread. That is miles lower than any price I had found so far. Yay!!!

I have yet another question for those of you who use this method. What if the person says they are less than a 5 on the scale of 1 to 10?


Then you are dropping off information about the wholesale buyer option, right? Here are my questions:
<UL>
<LI>What information do you give them?</LI>
<LI>Do you set a follow-up appointment here, too?</LI>
<LI>What is the objective of the follow-up appointment? To sign them up as a WB withtheir firstorder?</LI>[/list]


Thanks in advance, everyone!!!

Hey Shana-
I think it’s pretty important to try to stick as close to the 48 hours as possible. There really isn’t much difference between listening to the live call vs the recorded call. I don’t think it matters whether it’s live or not.
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If you want to wait for the live call maybe you can call them in-between to check in. You want to keep them excited about Arbonne &amp; not give them too much time to let the fear creep in.

Another option is to start your own Biz Opps. I know that sounds scary but you can do it! Try to find someone else in the area &amp; team up. My NVP took the initiative to start her own when she was just a DM.

OK, next questions.

I believe if they are just going to be a WB then you would just leave out the book &amp; give them the rest. A lot of people who are just going to be WB end up becoming BB so you want to keep that seed there.
I think you can either go ahead &amp; do it then or set up an appt for follow up. Setting up another appt gives them time to figure out what they want to order.

You are going to want to tell them about the family package to Arbonnize their home. ($700 for $365) If they don’t want to do that much yet then tell them about the $250 &amp; qualify for the $100 for $20 &amp; last would be the $100 start order to get the free gift.

You will want to walk them through signing up &amp; placing their first order. That way they can understand all the specials we get as well as see how easy it is to place an order.

can u post the link for the 45 second book, I can't find it.


Thanks, Denise

Here you go.


https://smarttools.securesites.com/

I think it's awesome we have so many choices on how to do this.
I know in the begining I was WAY to concerned that I understood and knew what I was going to do with every person.smileys/smiley5.gif
What I've learned along the way is each person is different. Yes, you need a plan, but be willing to be flexible as well.smileys/smiley2.gif

Does anyone have a copy of the outline they talked about on Hannah's call? I am looking for a copy of the baseball diamond to share with my team. Thanks!

Getting Started Outline (Hannah Dugan Call Notes)
<UL>
<LI>First Things First – The Details that Make the Difference</LI>
<UL>
<LI>Your Initial Business Builder Order</LI>
<LI>Your WHY</LI>
<LI>Your Contacts – Make Your List</LI>
<LI>Office – Phone, Email, Website</LI>
<LI>Autoship</LI>[/list]
<LI>The Results Approach System</LI>
<UL>
<LI>Foundation for Success – What makes it Work?</LI>
<UL>
<LI>Belief</LI>
<LI>Momentum</LI>
<LI>Teamwork</LI>[/list][/list][/list]



<UL>
<UL>
<LI>The Baseball Diamond</LI>
<UL>
<LI>First Base – Initial Contact with Drop Off/Two on One or 3way call</LI>
<LI>Rounding First – Follow Up on the 45 Second Book</LI>
<LI>Second Base – BizOpp/Formal Presentation</LI>
<LI>Rounding Second – Follow Up/Close</LI>
<LI>Third Base – Join Arbonne</LI>
<LI>Home Run – Start Achieving Rank</LI>[/list]
<LI>Your List and How to Strategize</LI>
<LI>Lead with the Business/Lead with the Product?</LI>
<LI>Let’s Get Started In Detail– Going for the Home Run!</LI>
<UL>
<LI>First Base – Initial Contact with Drop Off/Two on One or 3way call</LI>
<LI>Rounding First – Follow Up on the 45 Second Book</LI>
<LI>Second Base – BizOpp/Formal Presentation</LI>
<LI>Rounding Second – Follow Up</LI>
<LI>Third Base – Join Arbonne</LI>
<LI>Home Run – Start Achieving Rank</LI>[/list][/list][/list]





















<DIR>
<DIR>
<DIR>
QUESTION &amp; ANSWER</DIR></DIR></DIR>
<UL>
<UL>
<LI>What is in a business packet?</LI>
<LI>What do I drop off when leading with the product?</LI>
<LI>Where does the 45 Second book come into play?</LI>
<LI>How long do I wait between contacts?</LI>
<LI>Can I mix the systems?</LI>
<LI>What is covered in the BizOpp and What presentation do I use?</LI>
<LI>How do I work a long distance prospect?</LI>
<LI>What one on one presentation do I use?</LI>
<LI>How do you respond to is this like Mary Kay or Amway?</LI>
<LI>Is the 3way call and the RE9 pick-up the same. If you are not going to do an appointment with the pick-up, when do you do the 3way call?</LI>
<LI>Is you are working with a remote team, how do you do the pick-up within the buddy system.</LI>
<LI>How do you handle the situation if someone wants to keep the appointment but hasn’t read the book or listened to the CD once you have dropped it to them?</LI>[/list][/list]

thank you!!!

I heard Robert Kiyosaki today at an Arbonne training in Dallas and it was awesome. I would suggest that anyone that is doing Arbonne as a business invest in one or two of his books or cd's. He is a smart man with good concepts.


Love his stuff.. (Just found this post) I can say thanks to his book last year my hubby started doing Real Estate Investing (with the money I make with Arbonne) and lets just say we moved into a nice house which goes for $500,000 in Ohio.. where we live. smileys/smiley1.gifMy husband loves his teachings and we are teaching our kids.. In one year after doing stuff based off his books we went from Food Stamps and Medicaid to being able to afford a new car (and a new van next month), a new house, we are out of bad debt, and have gone on some little vacations and are planning more (when I am not 8 months pregs)smileys/smiley36.gifI would highly recommend these books and tapes.. but you have to do the work to.


Good luck,


Kim