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jemaca_jemaca
01-10-2006, 11:15 AM
I just have a question/ comment about people responding to posters that are looking for more information about Arbonne.


I know we all want to help these individuals out, but when someone asks for general details about the opportunity, why does it seem like a lot of people "jump" on that person with PM's? smileys/smiley5.gif


It seems to me that the consultant that responds to them firstand indicates they have sent them a PM should be enough. I don't know about everyone else, but if I came on and asked for information about the products, company, or the opportunity and I got 3, 4, or 5+ PMs sent to me (probably saying the same thing) I would take that as people are too anxious to get that person to join them. I would think that if the person did not get the information they were looking for they would either ask again or PM someone else.


I just saw a post where someone requested info, someone else responded that they sent a PM and then 3 or 4 others did as well.


I hope that this does not come off rude, but I didn't know how else to put it.


anet
01-10-2006, 11:39 AM
Well, I think it is very important if someone is interested that they choose a sponsor wisely. I do think the code of ethics is nice, but just because someone may be a "First responder" on a message board, doesn't mean the automatically score this potential recruit. The recruit has the freedom to research and decide who they might want to work with based on geography, philosophy or business or just personality clicking.


We all hear complaints about people wishing they could change their sponsor, or regretting signing up where they did. I have two friends here in town who signed up with out of town people a week before I approached them. They were both so bummed, they would rather work with me in town, and they like me and my business approach. But it is too late. (lesson learned STOP WAITING about approaching people!!smileys/smiley36.gif)


Anyway, I read a post at another forum and sent a short PM to the gal. I told her I was not trying to recruit her, just encouraging more research. She lives across the country from me. I was not sending a PM for my personal gain, just to share info. I can't speak for other people here, but sharing info to me is not the same as being in a binding relationship if the person asking decides to go further. But everyone has a different perspective, so the more info, the better. I guess it depends on what the PMs include, to know if they are high pressure or desperate or whatever. I know mine was not.

cindi8d
01-10-2006, 11:41 AM
Hey Jennifer~


Thanks for the comment. I think it is really nice for a lot of people to PM someone who is interested because it is really important to find the right person to sponsor you if you are really interested in this job. Just because I PM someone first doesn't make me the best fit for them. And I think we all know how important our upline is in our success. I personally wouldn't want to join under just anyone.


I think we all understand too that just because you PM someone first (or at all for that matter) doesn't somehow give you a "right" to that person. We are here to help people and we all help in different ways. It's nice for people to have a lot of opinions to look through.


That's just my 2 cents. What does everyone else think?


smileys/smiley4.gif


jemaca_jemaca
01-10-2006, 11:57 AM
anet & cindi-


I appreciate your comments and I did not mean to imply that the first person to respond is the person who "snags" that individual.


Being an Area Manager, I know how important it is to have people on your team that want to be on your team. I have had several people tell me they would've joined me, but I didn't get them in time.


My point was that while it is fine to PM people, it just seems like we bombard them. I would hope that these individuals would do their due diligence and find out all the information they need before making a decision. I would also hope that if they weren't satisfied or didn't "click" with someone they would re-post their questions.


I am just saying in MO that I would NOT like reading a bunch of emails about the same thing.


Thanks again for your comments.

Soonergirl74
01-10-2006, 12:12 PM
I see both sides of it & understand what you are talking about. And for the most part when someone asks questions I will answer them on the board unless they specifically ask to be emailed or PM'd. And a lot of times if I see a lot of people have sent them messages then I don't send anything b/c I assume they've gotten most of the info they need.


I do it on the board b/c others may be reading & also want the same info the poster is asking for but be too shy or whatever to ask themselves. I also will cover things from a different point of view than what has already been answered, maybe some things weren't covered. As we all know, there are several ways to do Arbonne & several little details. Not all of us know all of it. So I think it's great for several different people to jump in & give their perspective b/c we all might learn something new. And I don't think most people will ask it again. They have no way of knowing if they got all the information they needed or not b/c they don't know anything about Arbonne & what's out there. I guarantee you I could take 5 different consultants from 5 different Nations & ask them the same question & get 5 different answers.


There is a wide variety of personalities on this board & a lot of people don't post often so the person posting may not know they'd be a good fit with Sue, Jane or Harryif Sue, Jane or Harrydidn't also respond directly to them. I don't think it makes anyone desperate, a lot of times there is no way to know how many people PM'd them b/c not everyone states that they sent one on the board.


I don't want to bombard anyone either & try not to. But on the other hand if you go to a board like this & ask for help finding a sponsor you should expect a lot of replies. smileys/smiley1.gif


Edited by: Soonergirl74

funnygirl
01-10-2006, 12:12 PM
Also, in my opinion, it gets confusing when you have a ton of people telling you about a company. Everyone has a different take on things, and explains things in a different way. I had requested info on another company and recieved so many responses, and it did come off to me that these woman were kinda.....fighting? over me. That also made me feel a little worried about trying to get people on my team in the future. Then I had to feel the guilt of picking one person and rejecting the others. I finally just said forget about it and didnt sign up at all. Thats my 2 cents on it, LOL! smileys/smiley2.gif

jemaca_jemaca
01-10-2006, 12:17 PM
funnygirl- thank you for your comments....they are what my point was exactly.

saint854
01-10-2006, 06:44 PM
Jennifer,


I see what you're saying and I think I would normally agree with you. However, there's a variety of ways of working Arbonne and I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing for people to have several opinions. Too many opinions though, would be overwhelming so if I see a sea of "I've pm'd you", I let it go as I want to believeenough viewpoints have been represented in the pm's.


I've received too many comments about sponsor/consultant matches that don't work so if a prospect has the ability to "interview" several potential sponsors, I think it's a good thing for them and Arbonne. I know of someone who had such a poor relationship with her sponsor (and got no help from her upline) that she ultimately resigned. She's now waiting to sign on again. If she realized that she could have had more control in selecting her sponsor, she wouldn't have gotten into that situation. So I encourage people to get to know their sponsors and feel comfortable with them as they'll play a role in their success.


I'd like to think people are capable of making their own assessments. I guess a number of us have different views on this.......I d

nbrendal
01-10-2006, 07:12 PM
I can see both sides, and will admit to being one of the 2,3 or 4th pms..smileys/smiley9.gif



Anyway, I recently posted on another forum my insterest in another
opportunity as well, and had around 8 people contact me via pm, and I
liked it. Everyone offered different information and such, basically
what has been said here already. I do understand how some people might
feel bombarded, and in that case I guess it wouldnt be a good idea. In
mine however, I felt the peoples geniune excitement about their
company, and enjoyed reading their stories.

Soonergirl74
01-10-2006, 08:30 PM
I also have to add that I would hope those who PM would tone it in such as way as to be serving the person's needs, not their own. If you aren't doing it for your own agenda & instead genuinly trying to help that person by giving them info then they shouldn't feel like people are fighting over them. That isn't want any of us would ever want a new person to think.

verycute1
01-10-2006, 09:41 PM
Hi all!smileys/smiley1.gifsmileys/smiley1.gifsmileys/smiley1.gifsmileys/smiley1.gif

I am a SAHM and I've been searching for the right home based businesses for me. I was reading this post and wanted to offer an opinion if you'll let me.

When I go into the different business forums looking for info, I don't neccesarily want to have to post. SO when I see posts from other people asking for info and I click that link, it is such a huge disappointment to find that the post consists of nothing but "I PM'd you" I saw someone mention that if you come to a board like this asking questions you should expect alot of replies and I think that's great. But do they have to be PM's? I mean i figure, if I want someone to PM me, I'll ask for a PM. And I have seen people specify "please PM me". I think the default should be that if someone doesnt specify to PM them, then the replies should be on the board.

Personally I like to read several different opinions at once in a post and not have to wade through several PM's. Different people offer different opinions and ideas and it's easier to compare them all in one thread. I've actually stopped posting in rooms for info on the business as a result of this, rather I go online and research the companies listed. What that means is that, should I decide to go with one of the companies listed, I'm doing it independantly and no-one gets the referral. That isnt fair to those who are building their teams but, honestly, it's easier to go research the company myself rather than ask for the info. The PM's can get overwhelming and it reminds me of sharks sensing bait. (I hope no-one is offended by that analogy.)

I find that, for me, I'm alot more interested in the companies where all the info is laid out on the board, There are several excellent companies represented here that I've not attempted to join because of that whole PM factor. I'm weird like that.smileys/smiley5.gif


But here's a real life example. In one of my few posts in a business forum, I asked for info on the company. I got a friendly response, not a PM and I was very pleased. The poster did not pressure me to join her team, she answered the questions that I had and best of all, she did it on the board. I signed up under her. I know that I'll probably be my biggest customer after my mom, but, I was just so happy that she didn't pm me that I would have probably signed up my hubby and my 2 kids under her too if she'd asked. But that's just me. I just don't like trying to find info in a post only to see....

"I pm'd you
Mee too
Check yr PM
Pm on it's way

ETC ETC.

Having said that, I really did want info on Arbonne which is why I came into the room. I clicked on the topic asking for info and well.... you know the rest....SO..... Guess I'm off to find the Main company website because I really had alot of questions about what came in the starter kit and how did reps like the company. But those PM's scare me too much smileys/smiley5.gif so I'll go back in my little corner now where I can once again silently prowl the rooms lol smileys/smiley1.gif

chrlstoncharmed
01-10-2006, 09:47 PM
It is against company policy to post information regarding sales and recruiting on a public internet board! I know it is done from time to time but I also know that corporate does </span>know about this particular messageboard. So when you see someone post "check your PM" it is usually because they want to retain their consultant status!smileys/smiley1.gif <!--
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verycute1
01-10-2006, 10:34 PM
AHHHHH I see, Thanks for letting me know that. Ah well off to lurk the boards again...............

nbrendal
01-10-2006, 10:47 PM
are you still interested in information on arbonne? if so i will gladly
chat with you! I have MSN and yahoo as well, we can chat on those if
youd like!

LisaKuhel
01-11-2006, 06:48 AM
I have seen this topic brought up for years - there is no one right answer.
I hate when I see replies that just say "I pm'd you" - in fact being mod of a couple boards, I usually delete those. (there is NO point to saying that).
Everyone is different. Some want lotso f options, some get confused.
I personally do not pm someone unless they have asked for it. Reading these posts is so much easier than the pm's and I also agree with the PP - if you are just trying to recruit....shame on you. It's a big world out there - smileys/smiley36.gif

verycute1
01-11-2006, 07:56 AM
I am still interested,..... I will PM you with my info (with your permission)

Soonergirl74
01-11-2006, 08:49 AM
This is all very interesting. smileys/smiley1.gifJust goes to show there are tons of personalities out there reading boards.


I'm the one who said if you ask for info on a board then you should expect a lot of responses. Like I said in my post, for me personally I don't PM unless it is specifically requested. I would rather just get the info out on the board so others who want it can see it...&amp; verycute1, you are a prime example of that philosophy.


I agree that it's disappointing to open a thread &amp; just see a bunch of "I pm'd you" posts. But I also know that, for whatever reasons, others do prefer to justPM &amp; like Chlston said there are some things we can't post on the board. And I know the majority of those are goodpeople who have no ill intent &amp; aren't just out there to recruit, recruit, recruit. I've been on this board awhile &amp; know that the vast majority are happy to help whether someone is in their line or not. So, like I said...I get both sides of it.


Edited by: Soonergirl74

verycute1
01-11-2006, 09:21 AM
This is all very interesting. smileys/smiley1.gifJust goes to show there are tons of personalities out there reading boards.


I'm the one who said if you ask for info on a board then you should expect a lot of responses. Like I said in my post, for me personally I don't PM unless it is specifically requested. I would rather just get the info out on the board so others who want it can see it...&amp; verycute1, you are a prime example of that philosophy.





Thank you??? I think smileys/smiley9.gif

nbrendal
01-11-2006, 11:05 AM
I am still interested,..... I will PM you with my info (with your permission)




I would love to chat with you. smileys/smiley2.gif

Kiana's Mom
01-11-2006, 11:40 AM
Here's another viewpoint I didn't see posted. For many who are new to the company, it is helpful to see actual posts. For me personally, I learn by watching so it is always nice to see a response so that I can sharpen what I am doing or just to confirm that I am doing something correctly. I have learned so much from this board &amp; the rbon board-different approaches, great books that have been recommended, product uses, and even what this thread is referring to-what information to share with a prospect.


Thanks so much to every one who so freely shares!!!

Soonergirl74
01-11-2006, 02:37 PM
This is all very interesting. smileys/smiley1.gifJust goes to show there are tons of personalities out there reading boards.


I'm the one who said if you ask for info on a board then you should expect a lot of responses. Like I said in my post, for me personally I don't PM unless it is specifically requested. I would rather just get the info out on the board so others who want it can see it...&amp; verycute1, you are a prime example of that philosophy.







Thank you??? I think smileys/smiley9.gif






lol, I certainly didn't mean it in a bad way. smileys/smiley1.gifI just meant that what you posted about reading the posts to gather information was a perfect example of why I prefer to post on the board when answering people rather than PM.

TigerlilyArt
01-11-2006, 03:16 PM
Hi everyone,


I am usually a lurker and don't post on boards very often unless I have a specific question that I cannot find answered. I am not a consultant and asked for info on the company several days ago.


I had many people pm me, some posted also on the board, some did not. I really appreciated all the pms and feel like I got some really good info from them. I felt no pressure from anyone and felt comfortable responding to all and have been asking more questions off the boards.


I agree with many here that it's nice to see as much as possible on the boards, shared with everyone, but it was nice toget personal messagesand to feel that not everything has to be talked about in public.


So, thank you, for making me feel so welcome here and sharing your stories with me!


Carrie

cvkjafra
01-11-2006, 05:04 PM
Hi ladies, just want to jump in here if you don't mind. There are two
sides to this, one the ethical side of trying to get a recruit and the
other of giving information. When I ask for information about a
company, I usually start with the person who responds the quickest (we
are usually excited to find out info and want it NOW!smileys/smiley36.gif)



However, if after a few emails back and forth I feel like I don't
really click with that person I may start to correspond with someone
else to find the right match. I am always honest with all I correspond
with in telling them that I am talking with one or more
consultants. The interview goes both ways, consultant choosing
sponsor and sponsor choosing consultant. A couple of times I have
signed on with companies with the consultant who responded first only
to find out that she was either "not very nice" or she ended up MIA!



If someone has asked for info and continues to ask questions publicly
on the forum, in my opinion, she is looking for someone else to
possibly sign on with. If she is corresponding privately, then she has
probably made her decision to join with that person.



So, I guess the whole point of that was, I think it can be good if more
than one person responds. As long as they do it tactfully.