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fightingfatigue
12-15-2005, 03:55 PM
Does anyone on here have a testimonial AND pictures (other than the ones that Arbonne sells) for the Clear Advantage). I have a customer, who I previously serviced with another skin care, who has a lot of problems with acne. She is in her early 20's, but she refuses to try anything for longer then a day or two! I gave her the CA to try, she tried it ONE TIME, said it broke out her face really bad, and she refused to continue to use it. I explained to her that it takes a while. Her skin did not get that way overnight and it is not going to clear up overnight. Sometimes things will get worse before they get better due to the fact that all of the impurities under her skin need to work their way out, etc, etc. I have had this conversation with her so many times, but she just will not cooperate. She is getting married in 3 months and she is afraid that if she tries something new, her face will be even worse then. BUT she is willing to go and spend $500 for some kind of peel where she will actually have a layer of skin removed. Anyway, she did want to know if just taking the CA supplement would do anything to help her. Any suggestions??


bbrown1226
12-15-2005, 04:55 PM
Hey Sandy! This is one of my least favorite areas of selling skincare - acne. There are so many different reasons for acne and every person is different. Is it hormones, personal hygiene, too many toxins or all of the above! She is definetly not going to see results w/ just 1 day or even 1 month use. For my younger clients I suggest the CA and they MUST take the supplement. Acne is mostly an indication of something wrong on the inside. For my adult clients usually over 20, I suggest any other line, basics or RE9 w/ use of the CA supplement. I use the RE9 w/ the supplement and love the results. I would think for her age, keep in mind that I am NOT a dermatalogist, the CA supplement would help greatly along w/ drinking lots and lots of water and regularly cleaning her skin w/o stripping it and drying it out. Many acne clients dont use a moisturizer b/c they feel it will break them out more. This is actually the opposite. Your skin will overcompensate for being dry and produce too much oil. So basically, I would suggest she take the supplement, along w/ drinking plenty of water and maybe using the detox tea and colon cleanse to help rid of toxins along w/ using either the CA line or basics.This will probably break her out more at first, but she should be cleared up by 3 months. I am a firm believer that acne is b/c of too many toxins within from our diet and the junk we eat on a daily basis. I have had many clients w/ acne just rave about the thermal fusion masque. Much cheaper than a $500 peel!

arbonnebabies
12-15-2005, 06:20 PM
Tell her to stop using anything with mineral oil asap. What she doesn't do may break her out too (she'll start to detox), but if she starts now she'll look much better by her wedding.


cassandra
12-15-2005, 08:41 PM
thermal fusion enzyme masque 5 x week and the extra strength masque (or RE9 deep pore)2 x week would do wonderssmileys/smiley2.gif


"spot treat" with either the clear advantage lotion or prolief or bothsmileys/smiley9.gif


she's acne, so more than likely she thinks she's oily and therefore in her mind she doesn't need moisturizing, but at the same time her skin thinks, "I need moisture,so I'llproduce more oil"smileys/smiley5.gif... smileys/smiley18.gif so then she's wanting products to "dry her up" and won't understand the whole "you'veGOT to moisturize" thing.... it can be very difficult.


so let's get to the causes and the why's


hormonal? spot treat with prolief!


diet? clear advantage supplement, daily detox, optimal digest and drinking plenty of water


excess sebum? skin care regime- thermal fusion enzyme masque, extra strength masque, coupled with either clear advantage or RE9 or a combination of both


if the skin care is right for her skin, but she's using the wrong foundation.....http://www.wahm.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif ? kwim? jelly bean?http://www.wahm.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif


I have always found Kelli's pictures of her cystic acne to be extremely compelling...



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Kelli says that since using the NutriMinC<SUP>®</SUP> RE<SUP>9</SUP> system and Thermal Fusion Enzyme Masque the results have been amazing. She has struggled with cystic acne her entire adult life and never believed any product could improve her skin … until Arbonne.

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and these before and afters from these gals:



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<TD =regularCopy width=293 rowSpan=2>Abbi struggled with her skin’s appearance for years and avoided harsh medications. She continued to suffer from severe acne until she found the Arbonne Clear Advantage System. Within six weeks of using the system, she was free of new breakouts. She continues to use the NutriMinC<SUP>®</SUP> RE<SUP>9</SUP> anti-aging skin care line to help eliminate the scarring and discoloration the acne left behind.

— Abbi Zeliff; Oklahoma City, OK</TD></TR></T></TABLE>



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<TD =regularCopy width=293 rowSpan=2>Desire' used the Arbonne Clear Advantage System and these photos show the results after just one month of use. Desire’ has had acne since puberty and nothing she tried had helped for more than two weeks. She is ecstatic about the results.

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<TD =regularCopy width=293 rowSpan=2>Elba was suffering from severely distressed skin. After she used Arbonne Clear Advantage for four weeks, her skin cleared up. She continues to use the Bio-Hydria<SUP>®</SUP> line, Arbonne Clear Advantage Skin Support Dietary Supplement, and NutriMinC<SUP>®</SUP> RE<SUP>9</SUP> RElease Deep Pore Cleansing Masque.

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as you can see, they all have acne as adults,and they've all used clear advantage to help them clear up and followed it with a different regime for maintenance.


Since she's getting married in 3 months, she's more than likely scared out of her wits to try anything newsmileys/smiley1.gif