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I have several consultants signed up under me that are strictly wholesale buyers. They are now starting to refer new customers to me. I'm wondering if I should place the referral directly under me, or go ahead & place them under the person who referred them to me. These are people who have said they do not want to work Arbonne as a business, just enjoy the products at wholesale, but you never know! How have you guys handled this? I know for asap points if I place a new $100 consultant under one of my existing consultant's, I don't earn any points, right? But other that, is there anything else I should be aware of?

I prefer to build deeper because depth=security. And again, I was told
that the new 100+ consultants dont have to be direct to you, but can be
in your successine. Thats how it was told to me.

Hope you don't mind my jumping in here. I like to read your board because it is always active.



Since your wholesale consultants are referring these people to you, I'd
sign them under you. Reason, if these new people ever decide to
become business builders, you would be their sponsor and train them
properly. Your wholesalers on the other hand probably do not want that
responsibility right now. Plus, in order for the wholesaler to receive any
kind of commission they'd have to place a $100 order in the same month
as the recruit's order. It has been my experience that a
wholesale buyer chooses that avenue because they don't feel they need
or want to order every month.



Later on, if one of your wholesale buyers decided to become a business
builder, you can train them and help them recruit. Does
that make sense?



And I think that ASAP points are awarded for the Retail volume from your personal sales and new personally</span> sponsored recruit's sales with a minimum of $450 personal</span> retail volume. That is what it says under the ASAP table in the Upclose brochure.



By the way, I just received an order of vitamins and other misc. stuff
I order from Arbonne and I ordered Mandarin Cashmere lotion just for
the heck of it. Boy, does that smell good!


Edited by: cvkjafra

I started my Arbonne account because I strictly only wanted to be a wholesale buyer, I told my friends about Arbonne and my upline (thankfully) placed them under me,since thenI did change my mind and it would've been hard to get going if my warm market was under somebody else.


If my wholesale buyers refer someone to me, I place them under my wholesale buyers, but I still treat them as if they are direct to me. If in the future, one of the wholesale buyers direct to me should changetheir mind and decide to "do" Arbonne, it's only fair that those whom she had already introduced into Arbonne previously, become her wholesale buyers/clients. They only way of doing this is to sign them on from the beginning, under the wholesale buyer who referred them.

What happens if the person who has the referred consultant under her,
goes inactive (does not renew her agreement) Then does that
referred consultant go to you directly or does she go to your
upline? Just wondering, because in some companies when the direct
link is broken, you lose the one under the direct link or that person
reverts to the upline director or whatever they are called in the
particular company. How does it work in Arbonne? Do you
have to be in management (district manager or above) to retain the
referred consultant?

that person will always be under me (in my successline), if the person between us becomes "inactive" (doesn't renew account) then that person will be direct to me.


let's say that A sponsors B and B sponsors C, and C really works the business while B just remains a wholesale buyer/consultant. So lets say that A and C are serious bb's(biz builder), then one day in the future B decides to become a bb, B gets to "pick up" C! Edited by: cassandra

I was a wholesale buyer for about a year &amp; a half. Had my sponsor placed my friends under me, I'd have some built in volume already! Something we both never thought about at the time. That's one of the reasons I was thinking about placing the referrals under the referrer! I will also recommend the referrer sign up for auto ship of $100 retail so she can automatically receive any commission she might have earned!


So, to be clear - if I do this I WILL NOT receive the asap points, right? Because I understood that points are awarded on my PRV &amp; the RVof my personally sponsored NEW consultants. If I place her under my w/b, she won't be my personally sponsored new consultant, right?

I don't believe you'll get the asap points.

that person will always be under me (in my
successline), if the person between us becomes "inactive" (doesn't
renew account) then that person will be direct to me.


let's say that A sponsors B and B sponsors C, and C really works the
business while B just remains a wholesale buyer/consultant. So
lets say that A and C are serious bb's(biz builder), then one day in
the future B decides to become a bb, B gets to "pick up" C!



B would get C even if C had already promoted up to District manager or above? Wow, lucky B!

You always keep your downline. If you sign, for example, Mary under Betty who is direct to you, but Betty just buys for personal use,Mary's volume still helps yours. Plus, when you reach DM, you are now paid for Betty's volume. If Betty decides to do the business and becomes a DM, she is now YOUR first generation and passes Mary. If Mary changes her mind and decides to do the business and becomes a DM, Betty is now Mary's 1st generation and your 2nd generation.


Just like Cassandra's situation, you never know who will decide to do the business down the road. I would much rather sign referrals from a wholesaler direct to them in case your wholesaler decides to do the business one day. It would be much more difficult, like Cassandra said, if all her friends were under her sponsor and not her! And who knows, maybe one month when they do place a $100 retail order, and then a check shows up in the mail the following month, that might change their mind!


But, I would only do this w/ friends and referrals from the wholesaler. You also want to concentrate on building your direct recruits so you can earn ASAP points and concentrate on future legs.


As far as ASAP points, if you look under the qualifications it says 5+ consultants you personally sponsored in that month. To me, it sounds like you only get the points from your personal new $100 + consultants who are direct to you. The volume counts for your whole central district, area, or region.

Hey Cheryl!!


A would still be lucky too! She would then have a 1st gen. DM and a 2nd gen. DM!


How does Jafra work? Do you lose any consultants if the link between you and them are inactive? I hope not. But I am sure you are/will be in management level soon!smileys/smiley17.gif

No, we don't lose anyone either. I just know there are some
companies that do. I wasn't exactly sure how Arbonne worked and was
curious. You know, if you really crunched the numbers and really,
really think about it, Abonne's compensation is one of the best.
Which is why dozens of people are promoting to RVP every month. I
am actually surprised that Arbonne hasn't raised the volume limits to
promote up, it seems to be pretty easy at this point.



I am not in management yet, but still working toward it. It can
be a bit frustrating at times because I seem to be making a lot of
money for my</span> manager! smileys/smiley36.gif
I do know that in the long run, it will be worth it though because of
the percentage of commissions and the low maintanance once you reach
management. I am confident that I will get there!

The marketing plan structure of Arbonne really convinced me to change over from Mary Kay. The fact that you do not have to be a sales director (with 30 active recruits and go through 4 months of exhausting qualification!) to make money on whoever your team members sponsor. When you figure this in, yes, you do make more with Arbonne. And also, no 40 - 50 hour work week!


I do have to say I really enjoyed Mary Kay, and did well, so I know that I will move even quicker with Arbonne! I already have 2 RE9 sets out, samples of the RE9 to a couple of people, and a Clear Advantage set out! Tomorrow I do my first pick-up of the RE9 and presentation, so I am excited! I am shooting to make DM this month - my first month!!

You are going to do awesome Sandy! I am rooting for you! Good luck tomorrow and don't forget to share the business with them! They could be your first business partner!


Are you doing parties too?Edited by: bbrown1226

Hi Barbara - I am going to do some parties. I was initially only going to do the one-on-ones with the RE9 approach, but I am interested in moving up quick, so if I can meet with a lot of people at once, that is what I will do! It will depend on the customer also. If they want to do a class/party, then I will. If they prefer to be just one-on-one with me, then that's fine too!

Yeah, I was going to suggest a party at least at first to really give you a volume boost! Are you going to introduce arbonne to your previous MK clients? That would be a huge launch party for you!