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blessedone
11-17-2005, 11:17 AM
I have enjoyed this forum very much. I have learned a lot
about MLM as well as about Arbonne. Perhaps, it is time to
move on.
Not everybody makes DM in "two days" and not everybody
finds that others are breaking their necks to sign up with
Arbonne.
Network Marketing is spelled WORK. It is not luck, it is not
in the stars. It is constant WORK.
Arbonne is not PERFECT. However, the products are great.
I like Arbonne. My next employer does not want me to have
another "occupation".
The reality is that this is WORK. In the midst is TRUTH, not
what you think or believe.
Work and Truth. I leave those two words with you.
Success to all and to Arbonne.
http://agoodmorning.blogspot.com/
Blessed One (better known as Major26 and as Terry and Betty)
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about MLM as well as about Arbonne. Perhaps, it is time to
move on.
Not everybody makes DM in "two days" and not everybody
finds that others are breaking their necks to sign up with
Arbonne.
Network Marketing is spelled WORK. It is not luck, it is not
in the stars. It is constant WORK.
Arbonne is not PERFECT. However, the products are great.
I like Arbonne. My next employer does not want me to have
another "occupation".
The reality is that this is WORK. In the midst is TRUTH, not
what you think or believe.
Work and Truth. I leave those two words with you.
Success to all and to Arbonne.
http://agoodmorning.blogspot.com/
Blessed One (better known as Major26 and as Terry and Betty)
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LisaMarc
11-17-2005, 11:52 AM
I'm wondering how you were working the business. I signed up as a business builder the last weekend in October and already have 4 in my downline. I joined through a friend who is heavily working the business. Our team works the "Let's Go Shopping" approach and we all share our pups (the RE9 set in gold bag).
The other thing that is working for us is building two strong legs (going deep down on two matrix legs before starting a third leg). This approach works well for a team because we all help our new recruits get recruits. When building the legs, we do not sponsor direct to us, but below the recruits we have. This helps everyone get motivated as the sales volume grows for everyone on the leg when someone new is added.
Is this how most other Arbonne teams are working? Using a 2x2 matrix until the downline starts promoting out to DMs? So far, this approach is working great for our team. Our AM just qualified for RVP and is scheduled to get her Mercedes December/January. My sponsor is at a rate to get her Mercedes in spring and she started working the business in August.
Lisa
The other thing that is working for us is building two strong legs (going deep down on two matrix legs before starting a third leg). This approach works well for a team because we all help our new recruits get recruits. When building the legs, we do not sponsor direct to us, but below the recruits we have. This helps everyone get motivated as the sales volume grows for everyone on the leg when someone new is added.
Is this how most other Arbonne teams are working? Using a 2x2 matrix until the downline starts promoting out to DMs? So far, this approach is working great for our team. Our AM just qualified for RVP and is scheduled to get her Mercedes December/January. My sponsor is at a rate to get her Mercedes in spring and she started working the business in August.
Lisa
blessedone
11-17-2005, 11:53 AM
PS--to clarify my above post. I have had no MAJOR problem
with Arbonne. I will continue to use the products, and as the
opportunity comes along, I will sell the products and business.
I like Arbonne and their products. I think the business end is
a good thing for people looking to get into MLM.
Terry the "Blessed One"
with Arbonne. I will continue to use the products, and as the
opportunity comes along, I will sell the products and business.
I like Arbonne and their products. I think the business end is
a good thing for people looking to get into MLM.
Terry the "Blessed One"
blessedone
11-17-2005, 11:56 AM
Lisa, you go with this business. I hope to see you make
NVP.
Terry
NVP.
Terry
Soonergirl74
11-17-2005, 12:21 PM
Lisa, there are a lot of teams that started using that approach (with the legs)when they started the Results approach or Let's Go Shopping Approach. And it can work very well b/c of the motivation factor. You just have to learn the best way to do it b/c it can be tricky. That's why they say it's an art not a science! I'm so glad your group is doing well!
Terry, you are so right that this is work. If people get into Arbonne thinking it's a get rich quick, easy money thing then they are in for a big surprise. It is simple but still work. This is a business & you are in business for yourself...that is never easy. If it was easy then everyone would do it. To my knowledge no one on the board has every said it wasn't work or that it was easy to promote in two days.
But even with it being work it's still a heckuva lot better than going into a job 5 days a week from 8-5. I'll take one on one meetings at a coffee shop any day over doing a normal job!
Success to you as well. Hope you enjoy your next occupation.
Terry, you are so right that this is work. If people get into Arbonne thinking it's a get rich quick, easy money thing then they are in for a big surprise. It is simple but still work. This is a business & you are in business for yourself...that is never easy. If it was easy then everyone would do it. To my knowledge no one on the board has every said it wasn't work or that it was easy to promote in two days.
But even with it being work it's still a heckuva lot better than going into a job 5 days a week from 8-5. I'll take one on one meetings at a coffee shop any day over doing a normal job!
Success to you as well. Hope you enjoy your next occupation.
Kiana's Mom
11-17-2005, 06:15 PM
Lisa,
Fortunately, you have something, an approach, a systemto duplicate. Unfortunately, many do not have anything to duplicate. If these folks duplicate what they have been given, they will go nowhere. It is challenging to be in that situation and figure it out on your own or through some of these boards and takes a lot longer than if you had someone by your side showing you the ropes. I am happy for you to have the opportunity you have and to be able to teach it as well.
Just another perspective...for those who may feel they are floundering, and wondering why. Not to say this is the case for everyone who may be floundering. I pick up many ideas & get great support from these groups but then I have to step back & assimilate it in a manageable order for myself. I have no doubt that I will get "there", I do however realize that it may take me a little longer. I also believe it will make me a stronger upline for those that join my successline.
Fortunately, you have something, an approach, a systemto duplicate. Unfortunately, many do not have anything to duplicate. If these folks duplicate what they have been given, they will go nowhere. It is challenging to be in that situation and figure it out on your own or through some of these boards and takes a lot longer than if you had someone by your side showing you the ropes. I am happy for you to have the opportunity you have and to be able to teach it as well.
Just another perspective...for those who may feel they are floundering, and wondering why. Not to say this is the case for everyone who may be floundering. I pick up many ideas & get great support from these groups but then I have to step back & assimilate it in a manageable order for myself. I have no doubt that I will get "there", I do however realize that it may take me a little longer. I also believe it will make me a stronger upline for those that join my successline.
LisaMarc
11-17-2005, 06:31 PM
Jennifer,I agree that the approach my team is using is a bit tricky and it takes some thinking when deciding where to put new recruits on the team. I've learned that prior to doing this, the recruiter will consult their upline and figure it out together. It's been making sense to put really motivated business builders under wholesale shoppers who are iffy on the business end. We also try to match personalities.
Teresa, I agree that I am lucky to have wonderful upline support who is willing to go the extra mile and help me close. My sponsor has been right next to me whenever I need her. This has been very important. I would recommend building a team where members are working together with recruits, especially while recruiters are still learning the business.
I have been with several other MLM businesses, but none have the potential to build my personal growth like Arbonne does. I've been an engineer for 12 years and the few weeks in Arbonne has been better than any training I received in my professional career. I believe the skills I learn in Arbonne are going to make me very successful and able to leave my 40 hour a week engineering job. This is my goal and I would like to achieve it within the next five years. I'm not sure if my success will be in Arbonne, but I believe it will play an important part in reaching my goal.
Lisa
Teresa, I agree that I am lucky to have wonderful upline support who is willing to go the extra mile and help me close. My sponsor has been right next to me whenever I need her. This has been very important. I would recommend building a team where members are working together with recruits, especially while recruiters are still learning the business.
I have been with several other MLM businesses, but none have the potential to build my personal growth like Arbonne does. I've been an engineer for 12 years and the few weeks in Arbonne has been better than any training I received in my professional career. I believe the skills I learn in Arbonne are going to make me very successful and able to leave my 40 hour a week engineering job. This is my goal and I would like to achieve it within the next five years. I'm not sure if my success will be in Arbonne, but I believe it will play an important part in reaching my goal.
Lisa
Kiana's Mom
11-17-2005, 06:45 PM
Just to clarify, it's not that we don't have the REsults Approach, Let's Go Shopping, or the Opportunity Approach. We do. It's just a lot different having someone there to guide or lead you than teaching yourself. I am not complaining, I think we are all where we are supposed to be but some days it is more difficult than others.
I also agree about the personal development aspect. I have learned so much about myself, strengths & weaknesses. I am definitely not the same person I was when I signed up on July 28th...I have enjoyed the personal growth & look forward to more!Edited by: Kiana's Mom
I also agree about the personal development aspect. I have learned so much about myself, strengths & weaknesses. I am definitely not the same person I was when I signed up on July 28th...I have enjoyed the personal growth & look forward to more!Edited by: Kiana's Mom
SwissSkin
11-18-2005, 06:57 AM
Blessedone~
"The reality is that this WORK" You're RIGHT!
If anyone gets involved and expects to earn some additional income or replace an income, you won't get it any other way. It's a simple business, but it's not easy.
You also said "My next employer doesn't not want me to have another "occupation". Who's in controlof your situation here?
Many people today are looking for more than just money....they want lifestyle too! Too get out of debt, quit a job they don't like, spend more time with their family/friends, do more of what they want to do, etc.
The Arbonne opportunity is for anyone who wants to take control of their life. YOU call the shots...you say when, how much & with whom. However, alot of people don't want to "be their ownboss"...and that's okay.
The potential this opportunity offers is, alot of times, "unbelievable" for people because there's not a "$8.50/hr check waiting at the end of the week when you work 40hrs."It's about"setting the table and seeing who comes to dinner","plantingthe seeds forthe upcoming harvest",helpingpeople shop@ wholesale. (Think about it, if it WERE that easy, everyone would be doing it & driving a Mercedes!)
The Arbonne opportunity is not always right for everyone, and that's okay.
The reality is everyone needs money to support themselves & their family. I would never advocate someone quit their job & jump in both feet with Arbonne. And not everyone is willing to make short term sacrifices to "work" anything else when their plate is already full. But that's okay.
Many people are afraid of change, fear of failing, crushed by dreamstealers....and that's okay.
All I can say is from what I see, with the tremendous growth in Arbonne, there are ALOT OF UNSATISFIED people in their current situations.... and are not longer "just settling". Tired ofOTHER people writing THEIR life story. They are seeing a burning reason to change their situation, the potential with Arbonne, believe it can heppen to them and are willing to do what others are not to change it.
Think about how many "no's" ENVPs have got over the course of their involvement with Arbonne.A hecka of alot more than others have! They've done an awesome job at "failing" forward!!
The GREAT about Arbonne is it's not "one size fits all". There are options for everyone, whochoose to take them.
"The reality is that this WORK" You're RIGHT!
If anyone gets involved and expects to earn some additional income or replace an income, you won't get it any other way. It's a simple business, but it's not easy.
You also said "My next employer doesn't not want me to have another "occupation". Who's in controlof your situation here?
Many people today are looking for more than just money....they want lifestyle too! Too get out of debt, quit a job they don't like, spend more time with their family/friends, do more of what they want to do, etc.
The Arbonne opportunity is for anyone who wants to take control of their life. YOU call the shots...you say when, how much & with whom. However, alot of people don't want to "be their ownboss"...and that's okay.
The potential this opportunity offers is, alot of times, "unbelievable" for people because there's not a "$8.50/hr check waiting at the end of the week when you work 40hrs."It's about"setting the table and seeing who comes to dinner","plantingthe seeds forthe upcoming harvest",helpingpeople shop@ wholesale. (Think about it, if it WERE that easy, everyone would be doing it & driving a Mercedes!)
The Arbonne opportunity is not always right for everyone, and that's okay.
The reality is everyone needs money to support themselves & their family. I would never advocate someone quit their job & jump in both feet with Arbonne. And not everyone is willing to make short term sacrifices to "work" anything else when their plate is already full. But that's okay.
Many people are afraid of change, fear of failing, crushed by dreamstealers....and that's okay.
All I can say is from what I see, with the tremendous growth in Arbonne, there are ALOT OF UNSATISFIED people in their current situations.... and are not longer "just settling". Tired ofOTHER people writing THEIR life story. They are seeing a burning reason to change their situation, the potential with Arbonne, believe it can heppen to them and are willing to do what others are not to change it.
Think about how many "no's" ENVPs have got over the course of their involvement with Arbonne.A hecka of alot more than others have! They've done an awesome job at "failing" forward!!
The GREAT about Arbonne is it's not "one size fits all". There are options for everyone, whochoose to take them.
LisaMichelle605
11-18-2005, 08:02 AM
SwissSkin~
Well Said!!
This business is not easy and it is work! I know it's difficult to hear about people getting their Mercedes in 3 months and think why can't I do that. But those people are not the norm, there is enough room for all of us at the top. I will see you all at the topwhen you get there, not if!
LMichelle
Well Said!!
This business is not easy and it is work! I know it's difficult to hear about people getting their Mercedes in 3 months and think why can't I do that. But those people are not the norm, there is enough room for all of us at the top. I will see you all at the topwhen you get there, not if!
LMichelle
Hope
11-18-2005, 01:26 PM
Bravo SwissSkin....
I'm just getting started and that was a very encouraging statement.
Thanks to all who share their thoughts, opinions and knowledge.smileys/smiley1.gif
I'm just getting started and that was a very encouraging statement.
Thanks to all who share their thoughts, opinions and knowledge.smileys/smiley1.gif
mello-lello
11-18-2005, 08:08 PM
Ditto what they said, Bravo, well said Swiss skin! Thank you for this and all your wonderful posts, you have got what it takes!!! smileys/smiley2.gif
LisaMarc
11-19-2005, 08:40 AM
SwissSkin... You hit it right on the mark!
Soonergirl74
11-19-2005, 08:59 AM
Perfect Swissskin! smileys/smiley32.gif
SwissSkin
11-20-2005, 07:29 AM
Gee, thanx everyone! smileys/smiley9.gif
cvkjafra
11-20-2005, 07:52 AM
Blessedone~
"The reality is that this WORK" You're RIGHT!
If anyone gets involved and expects to earn some additional income
or replace an income, you won't get it any other way. It's a
simple business, but it's not easy.
You also said "My next employer doesn't not want me to have another "occupation". Who's in controlof your situation here?
Many people today are looking for more than just money....they want
lifestyle too! Too get out of debt, quit a job they don't like,
spend more time with their family/friends, do more of what they want to
do, etc.
The Arbonne opportunity is for anyone who wants to take control of
their life. YOU call the shots...you say when, how much &
with whom. However, alot of people don't want to "be their
ownboss"...and that's okay.
The potential this opportunity offers is, alot of times,
"unbelievable" for people because there's not a "$8.50/hr check waiting
at the end of the week when you work 40hrs."It's
about"setting the table and seeing who comes to
dinner","plantingthe seeds forthe upcoming
harvest",helpingpeople shop@ wholesale. (Think
about it, if it WERE that easy, everyone would be doing it &
driving a Mercedes!)
The Arbonne opportunity is not always right for everyone, and that's okay.
The reality is everyone needs money to support themselves &
their family. I would never advocate someone quit their job &
jump in both feet with Arbonne. And not everyone is willing to
make short term sacrifices to "work" anything else when their plate is
already full. But that's okay.
Many people are afraid of change, fear of failing, crushed by dreamstealers....and that's okay.
All I can say is from what I see, with the tremendous growth in
Arbonne, there are ALOT OF UNSATISFIED people in their current
situations.... and are not longer "just settling". Tired
ofOTHER people writing THEIR life story. They are seeing a
burning reason to change their situation, the potential with Arbonne,
believe it can heppen to them and are willing to do what others are not
to change it.
Think about how many "no's" ENVPs have got over the course of their
involvement with Arbonne.A hecka of alot more than
others have! They've done an awesome job at "failing" forward!!
The GREAT about Arbonne is it's not "one size fits all". There are options for everyone, whochoose to take them.
This statement is true for all MLM companies, the only thing that is
different is product and perhaps the individual company's
compensation. The reality is the same.
You have to be able to take rejection, be diligent in your work,
believe in your company 100%(no doubts), be coachable by those who have
"made it", be willing to invest some money to get it started
and probably most importantly-don't give up. MLM can be very
frustrating, but on the other hand extremely rewarding. Not
eveyone is cut out for it, that is for certain and as Swissskin says
"That okay!"
"The reality is that this WORK" You're RIGHT!
If anyone gets involved and expects to earn some additional income
or replace an income, you won't get it any other way. It's a
simple business, but it's not easy.
You also said "My next employer doesn't not want me to have another "occupation". Who's in controlof your situation here?
Many people today are looking for more than just money....they want
lifestyle too! Too get out of debt, quit a job they don't like,
spend more time with their family/friends, do more of what they want to
do, etc.
The Arbonne opportunity is for anyone who wants to take control of
their life. YOU call the shots...you say when, how much &
with whom. However, alot of people don't want to "be their
ownboss"...and that's okay.
The potential this opportunity offers is, alot of times,
"unbelievable" for people because there's not a "$8.50/hr check waiting
at the end of the week when you work 40hrs."It's
about"setting the table and seeing who comes to
dinner","plantingthe seeds forthe upcoming
harvest",helpingpeople shop@ wholesale. (Think
about it, if it WERE that easy, everyone would be doing it &
driving a Mercedes!)
The Arbonne opportunity is not always right for everyone, and that's okay.
The reality is everyone needs money to support themselves &
their family. I would never advocate someone quit their job &
jump in both feet with Arbonne. And not everyone is willing to
make short term sacrifices to "work" anything else when their plate is
already full. But that's okay.
Many people are afraid of change, fear of failing, crushed by dreamstealers....and that's okay.
All I can say is from what I see, with the tremendous growth in
Arbonne, there are ALOT OF UNSATISFIED people in their current
situations.... and are not longer "just settling". Tired
ofOTHER people writing THEIR life story. They are seeing a
burning reason to change their situation, the potential with Arbonne,
believe it can heppen to them and are willing to do what others are not
to change it.
Think about how many "no's" ENVPs have got over the course of their
involvement with Arbonne.A hecka of alot more than
others have! They've done an awesome job at "failing" forward!!
The GREAT about Arbonne is it's not "one size fits all". There are options for everyone, whochoose to take them.
This statement is true for all MLM companies, the only thing that is
different is product and perhaps the individual company's
compensation. The reality is the same.
You have to be able to take rejection, be diligent in your work,
believe in your company 100%(no doubts), be coachable by those who have
"made it", be willing to invest some money to get it started
and probably most importantly-don't give up. MLM can be very
frustrating, but on the other hand extremely rewarding. Not
eveyone is cut out for it, that is for certain and as Swissskin says
"That okay!"
LisaKuhel
11-20-2005, 08:23 AM
Well said Cheryl smileys/smiley32.gif
I've been in network marketing for almost 7 yrs now. I have seen so many people come and go and of course 100's give up because they blame the company and don't take a look at what they didn't do.smileys/smiley36.gif
Lisa
http://www.mywhy.myarbonne.com (http://www.mywhy.myarbonne.com)
DM in 2 months smileys/smiley32.gifDO you want that? OF course you do - PM ME!
I've been in network marketing for almost 7 yrs now. I have seen so many people come and go and of course 100's give up because they blame the company and don't take a look at what they didn't do.smileys/smiley36.gif
Lisa
http://www.mywhy.myarbonne.com (http://www.mywhy.myarbonne.com)
DM in 2 months smileys/smiley32.gifDO you want that? OF course you do - PM ME!
