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jodysromance
11-16-2005, 07:09 AM
Hi Girls,
I need some advice with a member of my downline. I have tried everything I can think of to help this girl! I told her I would help her put her orders in. I told her I would go to a show with her, I have given her all the advice I can. But she is SO negative! With our company you can earn a kit. She did that, but you need to do $1,000 in sales within 60days. She didnt to this so she had to ask for an extension which they gladly gave her. Now she has had a few parties but her sales are low and she is not getting bookings. Every suggestion I give her she says it dont work. Now please keep in mind I have 5 years experience in PartyPlan and she has none.
I asked her if she was mailing out the invites? Her answer NO, she wasnt spending the money on stamps.
I asked her if she was playing a booking game? NO
I asked her if I could attend a party with her? NO, she'd be too nervous cause I am better than her.
I gave her ideas to boost sales, etc. The only thing I haven't done is gave her bookings. I dont feel comfortable doing this until I go to a show with her. I dont want my hostess's to get poor service.
She put in an order wrong. You can put in an individual order and it will add to your sales. She put it in under business supplies. So it didnt go towards her sales. So she sent me an email allupset telling me how much this company sucks etc. I was very angry. But I didnt let her know it. I did remind her however that I wanted to help her place her first order. And told her that in order for it to count for her sales she must put it in as individual.
Now that they have given her an extension to earn her kit she wont get another one. If she dont hit $1,000 she will have to pay for her kit.
Should I just step back from helping her? I dont know what else to do. I told her that she needs to get rid of the negativity. She can do this! But she has to be positive. What else can I offer. I have exhausted all my avenues. It is not like me to step back. I am a leader and know I have duties as such.
Help!
Thanks in advance!
I need some advice with a member of my downline. I have tried everything I can think of to help this girl! I told her I would help her put her orders in. I told her I would go to a show with her, I have given her all the advice I can. But she is SO negative! With our company you can earn a kit. She did that, but you need to do $1,000 in sales within 60days. She didnt to this so she had to ask for an extension which they gladly gave her. Now she has had a few parties but her sales are low and she is not getting bookings. Every suggestion I give her she says it dont work. Now please keep in mind I have 5 years experience in PartyPlan and she has none.
I asked her if she was mailing out the invites? Her answer NO, she wasnt spending the money on stamps.
I asked her if she was playing a booking game? NO
I asked her if I could attend a party with her? NO, she'd be too nervous cause I am better than her.
I gave her ideas to boost sales, etc. The only thing I haven't done is gave her bookings. I dont feel comfortable doing this until I go to a show with her. I dont want my hostess's to get poor service.
She put in an order wrong. You can put in an individual order and it will add to your sales. She put it in under business supplies. So it didnt go towards her sales. So she sent me an email allupset telling me how much this company sucks etc. I was very angry. But I didnt let her know it. I did remind her however that I wanted to help her place her first order. And told her that in order for it to count for her sales she must put it in as individual.
Now that they have given her an extension to earn her kit she wont get another one. If she dont hit $1,000 she will have to pay for her kit.
Should I just step back from helping her? I dont know what else to do. I told her that she needs to get rid of the negativity. She can do this! But she has to be positive. What else can I offer. I have exhausted all my avenues. It is not like me to step back. I am a leader and know I have duties as such.
Help!
Thanks in advance!
hopefull
11-16-2005, 07:32 AM
You can only do so much, Jody~ It looks like you've done everything you can and then some! Ultimately, it is her business and if she doesn't want to work it, then there really is nothing you can do..
I would let her know that you are there for her and if you think of something that may work for her, let her know about it..but beyond that you've done all that you can do, imo..
You can't make her do what she's not willing to do for herself..as a wise woman recently said "If you can't change your people, change your people!"
Love that!!
Good luck and you sound like you're doing a GREAT job!
Kim
I would let her know that you are there for her and if you think of something that may work for her, let her know about it..but beyond that you've done all that you can do, imo..
You can't make her do what she's not willing to do for herself..as a wise woman recently said "If you can't change your people, change your people!"
Love that!!
Good luck and you sound like you're doing a GREAT job!
Kim
jodysromance
11-16-2005, 08:04 AM
Thanks Kim
Great advice! I'm guessing you are a natural leader yourself!
Great advice! I'm guessing you are a natural leader yourself!
ladydoreen
11-16-2005, 08:11 AM
I agree, you can only do so much to help someone. If she doesnt want to help herself then theres not much anyone can do. Sounds like you have done everything you can. now its up to her.
Sounds like she's just not cut out for sales.
good luck hope she turns around soon.
Sounds like she's just not cut out for sales.
good luck hope she turns around soon.
mkcecilia
11-16-2005, 08:54 AM
You can't wake up the dead. Give up and say N-E-X-T. If she wants to do this, she will find you. I know we should not ever totally give up, but you did all you could. Now, someone else will appreciate you,
Allison024
11-16-2005, 09:00 AM
I agree 100%!! Put your efforts somewhere where they will be useful. Work with the people who are WORKING their business and work to recruit new people. Make sure she knows you are there for her if she needs you, but let it be that.
jodysromance
11-16-2005, 09:19 AM
Thanks guys. I am going to send her a letter right now.
jacquelynrose
11-16-2005, 09:26 AM
I would have loved to have you as an Upline! You sound great. She is bringing this all on herself...you have done all you could now move on to someone who will APPRECIATE you.
jodysromance
11-16-2005, 10:44 AM
You are all so kind. Thank you!
DebbieLeiss
11-16-2005, 11:05 AM
Jody,
I can only agree 100% with what everyone else has said.
I have had the same experience. I once had a person sign up, get her kit, and never place an order. After, over a year, she called me back all excited that she wanted to re-sign. I sent her the invite, and she signed back up. She said she had an order and would be active as soon as she got signed up. This was about 3 months ago. I have had to learn over the last 3 years, you can't help someone exceed in this kind of business if they are not willing to put forth the effort.
This type of business is what you make of it. You can make it work part time or full time, but you have to make a conscious effort and not expect sales/recruits to be handed to you on a silver platter.
I say, let the recruit know that you are hear if she needs you, and go on to the next, and keep on going!!!!!!
I can only agree 100% with what everyone else has said.
I have had the same experience. I once had a person sign up, get her kit, and never place an order. After, over a year, she called me back all excited that she wanted to re-sign. I sent her the invite, and she signed back up. She said she had an order and would be active as soon as she got signed up. This was about 3 months ago. I have had to learn over the last 3 years, you can't help someone exceed in this kind of business if they are not willing to put forth the effort.
This type of business is what you make of it. You can make it work part time or full time, but you have to make a conscious effort and not expect sales/recruits to be handed to you on a silver platter.
I say, let the recruit know that you are hear if she needs you, and go on to the next, and keep on going!!!!!!
Wayna Morant
11-16-2005, 05:49 PM
She is lacking a true desire. If you are not a natural borngo-getter, sometimes it takes a life circumstance for a fire to be lit under your tush for you realize you need to make a change. She doesn't have the fire. I lacked the same thing a couple years ago but something happened along the way that turned it ALL around. You have given her all the tools she needs to use. Whether or not she chooses to properly grow her garden is up to her.
TMartin
11-16-2005, 09:03 PM
I agree pretty much with what has been said. I would put it in her court with questions....instead of giving her idea she can shoot down, try to get her to think for herself by means of.....okay...so what are some things that might help that....or what do you think you can do differently........That type of dialogue can get them to wake up and not just look for things handed on a platter to them. Sometimes.DO NOT give her any shows. If I have extra shows I hand them out freely to my girls who are putting their time and heart into this biz, not to those who sit around and moan it doesn't work for them.
Whether she is 'cut out' for sales or not, it is a trainable biz and if she is willing to be trained she can succeed!
Just this week I actually said no to a potential recruit that wanted to earn her kit justto get the products in them, to add to her other home party plans she joins for the products. Nope - if they wanted to bundle it as a 'special deal' to save you money on the products you love the most, you would see it in the catalog like that!
Anyway, I do not think you need to make a big statement about it, or cut her loose per say - but I would put it out there that you are commited to her success, and will be there for her but she has to hold up her end as well. You can't give her drive, desire or determination, but you can give her training, supportand ideas to to turn her drive into something successful.
Good luck!
Whether she is 'cut out' for sales or not, it is a trainable biz and if she is willing to be trained she can succeed!
Just this week I actually said no to a potential recruit that wanted to earn her kit justto get the products in them, to add to her other home party plans she joins for the products. Nope - if they wanted to bundle it as a 'special deal' to save you money on the products you love the most, you would see it in the catalog like that!
Anyway, I do not think you need to make a big statement about it, or cut her loose per say - but I would put it out there that you are commited to her success, and will be there for her but she has to hold up her end as well. You can't give her drive, desire or determination, but you can give her training, supportand ideas to to turn her drive into something successful.
Good luck!
jodysromance
11-17-2005, 08:03 AM
UPDATE~
I have received two letters of apology and a card. LOL I am still not going to bend over backwards however, I am VERY busy I have 4 new consultants coming in in the next month and dont want to waste good efforts when they need to be elsewhere!smileys/smiley2.gif
Thanks everyone!
I have received two letters of apology and a card. LOL I am still not going to bend over backwards however, I am VERY busy I have 4 new consultants coming in in the next month and dont want to waste good efforts when they need to be elsewhere!smileys/smiley2.gif
Thanks everyone!
ccarroll
11-17-2005, 10:33 PM
WOO HOO! Wtg on sticking to your guns! She was probably trying to manipulate into doing everything for her... a mistake lots of leaders get caught up in.
If she starts upagain,I would ask her "What was your WHY again for doing this business?" smileys/smiley36.gif
Chris
If she starts upagain,I would ask her "What was your WHY again for doing this business?" smileys/smiley36.gif
Chris