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Gail Thomas is with Mary Kay, and she expects to make
$500,000 next year. Has anybody ever heard of her?


What is the basic difference between Arbonne and Mary
Kay?


Blessed One

Hi! Mary Kay only carries skin care, cosmetics, and body care products where Arbonne carries these items, plus some vitamins, weight loss items and some other things as well. Mary Kay has been the best selling brand of skin care and color cosmetics for 12 years now as well.


I am friends with an Arbonne consultant and we have compared compensation plans for sales and team building where Mary Kay's commission plan is higher, but Arbonne has more of a variety of products.

I am sure that the Arbonne ladies can give you some more info on their products! I do love the Daily Detox Tea from Arbonne!It is yummy!!:) I do know that both companies have great products!! Edited by: 2bpink

I am curious about your take on the compensation plan comparison. I have heard over and over that Abonne's is the most generous in the business, and my upline was with Mary Kay for 9 years and never made much money, and with Arbonne, using the same techniques and having the same personality, she has made it to RVP and the MErcedes in 16 months. And is making a strong 6 figure income now.


People ask me how the structure compares, and I don't know how the structure of other companies work, so I can't compare. Of course, I barely understand the ARbonne structure, but that is neither here nor there.


If you feel comfortable giving it in a nutshell how it works with MK, I would appreciate it. I don't want to be giving out false information.

Mary Kay has been the best selling brand of skin care and color cosmetics for 12 years now as well.



I just read a site today that had a chart of the top selling skin care
companies and Mary Kay was not at the top of the list. Just thought
you'd want to know.

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Isn't it Estee Lauder?? Also Arbonne is only marketed in two countries, USA &amp; Canada.


I don't know any specifics re: MK's comp plan, only that they require minimums to purchase.

Hi, I am a former MK consultant. I have compared the two compensation plans extensively and Arbonne is definitely the more profitable. And just an FYI, this was the first year in the past eleven that MK did not make it on the best brand cosmetic list.


Denise :)

I do like their new advertising campaign!

Sure, I do not mind giving you a breakdown of the compensation plan:


Sales/Reorders - We earn a 50% commission


Team Building/Sharing:


If you have 1 to 4 active recruits, you earn a 4% bonus on their wholesale orders.


If you have 5 or more active recruits, you ean a 9 or 13% commission check. At this level, the 13% check is based on how much your own personal wholesale order is for the month.


Also, for every new qualified recruit from the 5th consultant on, at the consultant level, you earn a $50 team building bonus.


A consultant can earn a car at consultant status - currently the car is the Pontiac Vibe OR the cash option is $375/month.


As a Sales Director: Sales directors earn between 9% to 13% on their personal recruits, plus they earn an addition 9% to 13% on the entire unit's wholesale (and this includes the directors own order as well.)


Unit Volume Bonuses: A Sales Director is entitled to a Sales Director Unit Development Bonus of $500 for each month five or more "qualified" new unit members are added to her Sales Unit.
A Sales Director is entitled to a Sales Director Unit Volume Bonus of ten percent (10%) of the monthly Wholesale Purchase Volume of Sales Director’s Sales Unit, calculated based on the starting point of the applicable $1,000 tier, beginning at the $5,000 tier. For example:

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For each $1,000 increase in monthly unit wholesale purchase volume, the bonus increases by $100.
Directors cars are the Pontiac Grand Prix and the Pink Cadillac.

I just read a site today that had a chart of the top selling skin care companies and Mary Kay was not at the top of the list. Just thought you'd want to know.
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Hi! Thanks for letting me know that - I have a call into my director to find out how they determine this. I know that every year, Mary Kay tells us that again we are #1 based on retail sales for products. They did give us the source of confirming information for this, but I do not remember what it is! I will find out for sure, though!!

In order to maintain your 50% discount, you have to place $400 retail order every three months.

Hi Darla, Yes, that is correct. You do have to place a $200 wholesale order/$400 retail order every third month to get your 50% discount. However, a consultant can technically order their $200 wholesale once a year and still remain a consultant. I have a couple on my team that do this.


Edited to say: What I think is great about Arbonne is that there are not as many consultants and that fact appealed to me. I think both companies are great!! :)


Edited by: 2bpink

I've also heard that MK encourages reps to stock inventory, where Arbonne discourages this. I knew a director who had loads &amp; loads of inventory - whole bookcases full! I only have a few items on hand that my regular customers run out of frequently (clear advantage)

Hi Bev, Inventory is optional with Mary Kay, but not required. What can get out of hand with this is some consultants will try to "buy" their quarterly prizes, etc. and that is not good. When I was a director, I had a girl in my unit that I would have to tell every month, "If you did not sell that much, you should not be ordering that much!"


In the over 4 years that I have been in the company, I have picked up several customers due to the fact that they could not get their products right away from their consultant and they didn't want to wait for them. There are advantages to having product on hand, but if you are not good at managing your money, it can also be a disadvantage as well.


Like I mentioned earlier, I think Arbonne is a great company as well and I will never bad mouth them, or you ladies! Have a great evening!! :)

They must determine the "top rated company" according to different
criteria. I have a subscription to a research site that reports on top
beauty companies according to sales and Mary Kay is in the top 20 for
the years 2001-2004, but it isn't (never was) the </span>top company.



I brought this up because we've had posts here lately about making
claims that aren't factual, whether we realize it or not, know what I
mean? It seems to be an ongoing problem in this industry.smileys/smiley6.gif <!--
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Edited by: chrlstoncharmed

Sure, I understand what you are saying and I do definitely not want to be making claims about something if it is not true! I will be anxious to hear what my director has to say when I talk to her. I would not purposely misrepresent anything, as I have just been giving information as it is given to us regarding the company stats. Edited by: 2bpink

smileys/smiley2.gifi think both companies are greatsmileys/smiley32.gifi love the mk ad i hope arbonne does one of those too but i do think they are differnt but i would never change arbonne has been so good to my skin.smileys/smiley36.gif

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I think both companies are great. There are faithful MK users and faithful Arbonne users. I think one of the biggest differences right now, besides the fact that we do not use mineral oil and MK does (I have read the ingredients for MK) is that MK is more saturated (MY OPINION), whiCH makes it harder to sell alot. Everyone seems (in my circles) to know someone who sells MK. In my circles, not many people have heard of Arbonne yet so they are intrigued b/c of that fact. Then most of the time, they love the product and want to buy. So yes, MKs commission is 50%. Ours is 35%. In my situation, I think I would make more sales w/ Arbonne b/c all the people I know have tried MK before or already have a consultant. It was an easier sell for me.


As far as MK inventory, I am sure not all consultants push inventory. Arbonne is not supposed to push inventory, but there are consultants pressuring new consultants into buying tons of RE9 sets, which Arbonne does NOT push. You can keep your consultant status w/ just the $29 sign up fee. You only get overridecommission if you have a $100 retail order under your i.d. every month. This is easy to do since you just put your retail orders from clients under your i.d.


I didn't really understand the pay structure for MK given above, and I am still trying to figure out our ownsmileys/smiley2.gif


As far as quality of product, well being that I am an Arbonne consultant, I of course will say ours is the best!smileys/smiley17.gifI truly believe that though for me at least. I have tried all kinds of products and Arbonne has been the best for me!Edited by: bbrown1226

smileys/smiley4.gifI do feel that because Arbonne does not have as many consultants that this really helps you ladies out a lot. You are right - there are a lot of Mary Kay consultants. We were told at a training, though, that only about 20% of all MK consultants are actually "working consultants", but still this did appeal to me about your company.


I also like the fact that Arbonne has the nutritionals and such. I have Fibro, CFS and a bladder disease, and when I met with Cassandra to try the Detox Tea and to smell the Herbal Soak, I thought this was really great! I asked her how many consultants were in my town and she said the last time she had checked it was around 23! Again, all of this really appeals to me about the Arbonne company!


You ladies are great on here!! Edited by: 2bpink

How do you use the detox tea? I've thought of ordering it, but I never do. Do you use it every day/night? I love the get well soon, it really seems to help when I feel like I'm coming down w/something! What about the herbal soak? How do you use it? I love the unwind bath salts!

Hi Bev, I drink the Detox Tea every morning and I will get my herbal soak from Cassandra when she gets back home. She is away right now. She wanted me to smell them before I purchased them to make sure that I like the scent. She is giving me instructions on how to use when she delivers.

I see Mary Kay's compensation plan, what is Arbonne's?


Mary Kay Plan:


Team Building/Sharing:


If you have 1 to 4 active recruits, you earn a 4% bonus on their wholesale orders.


If you have 5 or more active recruits, you ean a 9 or 13% commission check. At this level, the 13% check is based on how much your own personal wholesale order is for the month.


Also, for every new qualified recruit from the 5th consultant on, at the consultant level, you earn a $50 team building bonus.


A consultant can earn a car at consultant status - currently the car is the Pontiac Vibe OR the cash option is $375/month.


As a Sales Director: Sales directors earn between 9% to 13% on their personal recruits, plus they earn an addition 9% to 13% on the entire unit's wholesale (and this includes the directors own order as well.)


Unit Volume Bonuses: A Sales Director is entitled to a Sales Director Unit Development Bonus of $500 for each month five or more "qualified" new unit members are added to her Sales Unit.
A Sales Director is entitled to a Sales Director Unit Volume Bonus of ten percent (10%) of the monthly Wholesale Purchase Volume of Sales Director’s Sales Unit, calculated based on the starting point of the applicable $1,000 tier, beginning at the $5,000 tier. For example:

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$700</TD></TR>
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$8,000 to $8,999.99</TD>
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$800</TD></TR>
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$900</TD></TR>
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$11,000 to $11,999.99</TD>
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$1,100</TD></TR>
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$12,000 to $12,999.99</TD>
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$1,200</TD></TR>
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$13,000 to $13,999.99</TD>
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$1,300</TD></TR></T></T></TABLE>
For each $1,000 increase in monthly unit wholesale purchase volume, the bonus increases by $100.
Directors cars are the Pontiac Grand Prix and the Pink Cadillac.

ARBONNE CONSULTANT

<LI =regularCopy>35% discount from the Suggested Retail Price (SRP) on all Arbonne products.
<LI =regularCopy>For each RSVP Consultant sponsored, receive a $50 (Can $65) Right Start Bonus. Receive another $50 (Can $65) when the new Consultant buys RSVP2.
<LI =regularCopy>4% Consultant override on the Override Volume of all personally sponsored Consultants. Available at the Consultant level only.
<LI =regularCopy>Access to on-going Product Specials, ASAP and other monthly promotions and participation in the Arbonne Awards Program.

DISTRICT MANAGER
Same benefits as the Consultant level, except Consultant 4%, plus:

<LI =regularCopy>The 14kt gold “DM” pin awarded when promoted to District Manager.
<LI =regularCopy>8% override on Central District Override Volume.
<LI =regularCopy>$25 (Can $35) bonus for each RSVP Consultant sponsored in Central District. Receive an additional $25 (Can $35) when new Consultant buys RSVP2.
<LI =regularCopy>$200 (Can $260) District Manager Cash Bonus with Central District sales of $5,000 (Can $6,500) RV and minimum 5 new Consultants with at least $100 (Can $130) PRV in their start month.

EXECUTIVE DISTRICT MANAGER
Same benefits as a District Manager, plus:

<LI =regularCopy>8% override on 1st Generation District Managers’ Override Volume.
<LI =regularCopy>2% override on 2nd Generation District Managers’ Override Volume with 2 first Generation Districts.
<LI =regularCopy>1% override on 3rd Generation District Managers’ Override Volume with 3 first Generation Districts.

AREA MANAGER
Same benefits as the Executive District Manager level, plus:

<LI =regularCopy>The 14kt. gold “AM” pin awarded when promoted to Area Manager.
<LI =regularCopy>6% override on Central Area Override Volume.
<LI =regularCopy>$400 (Can $520) Area Manager Cash Bonus with Central Area sales of $20,000 (Can $26,000) RV and minimum 10 new Consultants with at least $100 (Can $130) PRV in their start month. Receive the greater of the District or Area Cash Bonus.
<LI =regularCopy>Direct deposit service for override and bonus checks.

EXECUTIVE AREA MANAGER
Same benefits as an Area Manager, plus:

<LI =regularCopy>6% override on 1st Generation Area Managers’ Override Volume.
<LI =regularCopy>1% override on 2nd Generation Area Managers’ Override volume with 2 first Generation Areas.
<LI =regularCopy>1% override on 3rd Generation Area Managers’ Override volume with 3 first Generation Areas.

REGIONAL VICE PRESIDENT
Same benefits as the Executive Area Manager level, plus:

<LI =regularCopy>The 14kt gold “RVP” pin awarded when promoted to Regional Vice President.
<LI =regularCopy>3% override on Central Region Override Volume.
<LI =regularCopy>$600 (Can $780) Vice President Cash Bonus with Central Region sales of $60,000 (Can $78,000) RV and minimum 30 new Consultants with at least $100 (Can $130) PRV in their start month. Receive the greater of the Region, Area or District Cash Bonus.
<LI =regularCopy>$800 (Can $1,040) Mercedes-Benz bonus with Central Region sales of $40,000 (Can$52,000) Retail Volume, a $600 (Can $780) bonus
with $35,000 (Can $45,000) RV, a bonus of $400 (Can $520) with $30,000 (Can $40,000) RV and a bonus of $200 (Can $260) with $25,000 (Can $35,000) RV, including Promotion Credits. For every month paid as an RVP or as an RVP in Title Maintenance, you will be eligible for the Mercedes-Benz bonus when you own or lease a white Mercedes-Benz automobile.

EXECUTIVE REGIONAL VICE PRESIDENT
Same benefits as a Regional Vice President, plus:

<LI =regularCopy>An emerald is added to RVP pin for each RVP promoted from Central Region.
<LI =regularCopy>3% override on 1st Generation Regional Vice Presidents’ Override Volume.
<LI =regularCopy>2% override on 2nd Generation Regional Vice Presidents’ Override Volume
with 2 first Generation Regions.
<LI =regularCopy>2% override on 3rd Generation Regional Vice Presidents’ Override Volume
with 3 first Generation Regions.
<LI =regularCopy>Arbonne’s Life Insurance Plan

NATIONAL VICE PRESIDENT
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<TD width=17></TD>
<TD =dummyStyle width=183>Your SuccessLine =
All Consultants who have been sponsored below you, no matter how deep, regardless of whether they were personally sponsored by you or sponsored by Consultants below other Consultants.</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
Same benefits as the Executive Regional Vice Presidents level, plus:

<LI =regularCopy>The 14kt. gold “NVP” pin awarded when promoted to National Vice President.
<LI =regularCopy>1% override on Central Nation Override Volume.
<LI =regularCopy>$1,000 (Can $1,300) Mercedes-Benz Bonus with Central Nation sales of $160,000
(Can $208,000) Retail Volume, a $800 (Can $1,040) bonus with $140,000 (Can $180,000) RV, a bonus of $600 (Can $780) with $120,000 (Can $160,000) RV and a bonus of $400 (Can $520) with $100,000 (Can $120,000) RV, including, Promotion Credits. For every month paid as an NVP or as an NVP in Title Maintenance, you will be eligible for the Mercedes-Benz bonus when you own or lease a white Mercedes-Benz automobile.
<LI =regularCopy>NVPs and a family member or a non-Arbonne Consultant guest are invited
to attend National and International Meetings as Arbonne’s guests.

EXECUTIVE NATIONAL VICE PRESIDENT

Same benefits as a National Vice President, plus:

<LI =regularCopy>A diamond will be added to NVP pin for each NVP promoted from Central Nation.
<LI =regularCopy>1% override on 1st Generation National Vice Presidents’ Override Volume.
<LI =regularCopy>1% override on 2nd Generation National Vice Presidents’ Override Volume with 2 first Generation Nations.
<LI =regularCopy>1% override on 3rd Generation National Vice Presidents’ Override Volume with 3 first Generation Nations.
<LI =regularCopy>1% override on 4th Generation National Vice Presidents’ Override Volume with 4 first Generation Nations.
<LI =regularCopy>1% override on 5th Generation National Vice Presidents’ Override Volume with 5 first Generation Nations.
<LI =regularCopy>1% override on 6th Generation National Vice Presidents’ Override Volume with 6 first Generation Nations. </LI>

Okay, I found the above, what what does it take to get to District Manager, Area Manager, etc?


From what I can see, Mary Kay looks like a better compensation plan?


I haven't started yet with Arbonne, but this is interesting.

For Mary Kay, there are also additional commissions earned for Sr. Directors and above and National Sales Directors.
There are their commission structures, in addition to what they receive as directors/recruiters above:
Senior, Future Exec. Senior, Executive Senior and Elite Executive Senior Sales Directors:
<UL>
<LI>Commission Schedule </LI>[/list]
<BLOCKQUOTE>
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PERSONAL UNIT MONTHLY WHOLESALE PRODUCTION</TD>
<TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; BORDER-TOP: 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BACKGROUND: #99ccff; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid; WIDTH: 100px; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: 3px solid" align=middle>NUMBER OF OFFSPRING UNITS</TD>
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OFFSPRING COMMISSION</TD></TR>
<TR>
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Tier 1 $4,000 to $11,999</TD>
<TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BACKGROUND: white; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; WIDTH: 100px; PADDING-TOP: 0in">One to Three</TD>
<TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BACKGROUND: white; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; WIDTH: 150px; PADDING-TOP: 0in" align=middle>
4.0%</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BACKGROUND: white; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; WIDTH: 170px; PADDING-TOP: 0in"></TD>
<TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BACKGROUND: white; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; WIDTH: 100px; PADDING-TOP: 0in">Four to Six</TD>
<TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BACKGROUND: white; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; WIDTH: 150px; PADDING-TOP: 0in" align=middle>
4.5%</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BACKGROUND: white; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; WIDTH: 170px; PADDING-TOP: 0in"></TD>
<TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BACKGROUND: white; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; WIDTH: 100px; PADDING-TOP: 0in">Seven or more</TD>
<TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BACKGROUND: white; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; WIDTH: 150px; PADDING-TOP: 0in" align=middle>
5.0%</TD></TR>
<TR>
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Tier 2 $12,000 or more </TD>
<TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BACKGROUND: white; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; WIDTH: 100px; PADDING-TOP: 0in">One to Three</TD>
<TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BACKGROUND: white; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; WIDTH: 150px; PADDING-TOP: 0in" align=middle>
5.0%</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BACKGROUND: white; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; WIDTH: 170px; PADDING-TOP: 0in">
</TD>
<TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BACKGROUND: white; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; WIDTH: 100px; PADDING-TOP: 0in">Four to Six</TD>
<TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BACKGROUND: white; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; WIDTH: 150px; PADDING-TOP: 0in" align=middle>
5.5%</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BACKGROUND: white; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; WIDTH: 170px; PADDING-TOP: 0in">
</TD>
<TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BACKGROUND: white; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; WIDTH: 100px; PADDING-TOP: 0in">Seven or more</TD>
<TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BACKGROUND: white; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; WIDTH: 150px; PADDING-TOP: 0in" align=middle>
6.0%</TD></TR></T></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE>



Compensation For National Sales Director
<BLOCKQUOTE>
Personal team commission of 4%, 9% or 13%
<UL =circle>
<LI>
For the 13% personal team commission, a National Sales Director does not have any personal activity requirements, but is still required to have at least five personal team members each place minimum $200 wholesale Section 1 orders. </LI>[/list]
Sales Director personal unit volume commission of 13%
National Sales Director Commission
<UL>
<LI>
NSD personal unit volume commission of 10%</LI>[/list]
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<UL =circle>
<LI>
An NSD may elect to keep her personal unit at the time she debuts or form a personal unit at a later date in order to develop additional first-line offspring units. She will earn a 10% NSD commission on her personal unit’s wholesale volume in addition to a 13% Sales Director commission on that unit’s wholesale production.</LI>[/list]</BLOCKQUOTE>
<UL =disc>
<LI>
NSD Offspring Commission based on monthly wholesale production of each: </LI>[/list]
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NSD Commission</TD></TR>
<TR>
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$24,000 or more</TD>
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10%</TD></TR>
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$16,000 to $23,999.99</TD>
<TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BACKGROUND: white; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in" align=middle>
9%</TD></TR>
<TR>
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$8,000 to $15,999.99</TD>
<TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BACKGROUND: white; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in" align=middle>
8%</TD></TR>
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$0 to $7,999.99 </TD>
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7%</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; BORDER-TOP: 3px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BACKGROUND: #ffffff; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: 3px solid; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px" align=left width=357>Second-line units who are unaffiliated with an offspring NSD and those affiliated with an offspring NSD</TD>
<TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; BORDER-TOP: 3px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BACKGROUND: #ffffff; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: 3px solid; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px" align=middle>4%</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 1px; PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BACKGROUND: #ffffff; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px" align=left width=357>Third-line units who are unaffiliated with an offspring NSD and those affiliated with an offspring NSD</TD>
<TD style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 1px; PADDING-RIGHT: 8.25pt; PADDING-LEFT: 8.25pt; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BACKGROUND: #ffffff; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px" align=middle>2%</TD></TR></T></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<UL>
<LI>
First-line new offspring Sales Director Bonus</LI>[/list]
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<UL =circle>
<LI>
Bonuses will be paid for the development of Sales Directors from NSD’s personal unit according to the following schedule:</LI>[/list]
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NSD BONUS</TD></TR>
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At time of new offspring Sales Director's debut</TD>
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$5,000</TD></TR>
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At annual anniversary of same unit's debut when offspring Sales Director generates wholesale production of $60,000 or more within last 12 months</TD>
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$1,000</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
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You can find all of Arbonne's compensation info. at www.arbonne.com (http://www.arbonne.com) under Be Your Own Boss; then click on SuccessPlan.


CONSULTANT

Quick Start option with registration for $29 (Can $39)
<LI =regularCopy>Company accepts Independent Consultant Application &amp; Agreement Form
DISTRICT MANAGER
One, two or three month qualification options
<LI =regularCopy>$6,000 (Can $7,800) Retail Volume in one month, $6,000 (Can $7,800) Retail Volume over two months, or $7,500 (Can $10,000) Retail Volume over three months.
<LI =regularCopy>Retail Volume will be accumulated over the entire qualification period.
<LI =regularCopy>Minimum $2,500 (Can $3,250) Retail Volume in the first and the last month of the qualification period.
<LI =regularCopy>Minimum $1,000 (Can $1,300) Personal Retail Volume in the qualification period.
<LI =regularCopy>Permanent Pick-Up Credit of $650 (Can $815.50) for one or more promoted, paid as District Managers, 1st Generation District.


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<TD><B =regularCopy>Effective now through March 2006[/B]
NEW CONSULTANTS IN START MONTH
Special Trial District Manager Qualification:
One, two or three month qualification options
All New Consultants who accumulate $1,000 + (Can$1,300) PRV in their Start Month will
automatically enter into qualification for District Manager. They may finish in that month, or they may complete qualification in their second or third month with Arbonne. To complete District Manager qualifications, the following must also be achieved:
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<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width=10>• </TD>
<TD width=490>$6,000 (Can$7,800) Retail Volume in one (1) month (the New Consultant’s Start Month);
$6,000 (Can$7,800) Retail Volume over two (2) months; Or, $7,500 (Can$10,000) Retail Volume over three (3) months. </TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top>•</TD>
<TD>Retail Volume will accumulate over the entire qualification period. </TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top>•</TD>
<TD>Minimum of $2,500 (Can$3,250) Retail Volume in the last month of the
qualification period </TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top>•</TD>
<TD>Minimum $100 (Can $130) PRV each month during the qualification period. </TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top>•</TD>
<TD>Permanent Pick-Up Credit of $650 (Can $815.50) for one or more promoted, paid as District Managers, 1st Generation District. </TD></TR></T></TABLE></TD></TR></T></TABLE>
EXECUTIVE DISTRICT MANAGER
A District Manager who promotes a new District from Central District.
AREA MANAGER
Two or three month qualification options
<LI =regularCopy>$24,000 (Can $31,200) Retail Volume over two months or $30,000 (Can $40,000) Retail Volume over three months.
<LI =regularCopy>Retail Volume will be accumulated over the entire qualification period.
<LI =regularCopy>Minimum $10,000 (Can $13,000) Retail Volume in the first and the last month of the qualification period.
<LI =regularCopy>Minimum $2,500 (Can $3,250) Retail Volume in Central District each month of the qualification period.
<LI =regularCopy>Maximum $10,000 (Can $13,000) from each 1st Generation paid as District Manager’s entire SuccessLine during the qualification period.
<LI =regularCopy>Permanent Pick-up Credit of $2,500 (Can $3,250) for one or more promoted, paid as Area Managers, 1st Generation District.

EXECUTIVE AREA MANAGER
An Area Manager who promotes an Area from Central Area.
REGIONAL VICE PRESIDENT
Two or three month qualification options
<LI =regularCopy>$96,000 (Can $124,800) Retail Volume over two months or $120,000 (Can $160,000) Retail Volume over three months.
<LI =regularCopy>Retail Volume will be accumulated over the entire qualification period.
<LI =regularCopy>Minimum $40,000 (Can $52,000) Retail Volume in the first and the last month of the qualification period.
<LI =regularCopy>Maximum $40,000 (Can $52,000) from each 1st Generation paid as Area Manager’s entire SuccessLine during the qualification period.
<LI =regularCopy>Permanent Pick-up Credit of $10,000 (Can $13,000) for one or more promoted, paid as Regional Vice Presidents, 1st Generation Area.

EXECUTIVE REGIONAL VICE PRESIDENT
A Regional Vice President who promotes a Region from Central Region.
NATIONAL VICE PRESIDENT
Two or three month qualification options
<LI =regularCopy>$384,000 (Can $499,200) Retail Volume over two months or $480,000 (Can $640,000) Retail Volume over three months.
<LI =regularCopy>Retail Volume will be accumulated over the entire qualification period.
<LI =regularCopy>Minimum $160,000 (Can $208,000) Retail Volume in the first and the last month of the qualification period.
<LI =regularCopy>Maximum $160,000 (Can $208,000) from each 1st Generation paid as Regional Vice President’s entire SuccessLine during the qualification period.
<LI =regularCopy>Permanent Pick-up Credit of $40,000 (Can $52,000) for one or more promoted, paid as National Vice Presidents, 1st Generation Region.
EXECUTIVE NATIONAL VICE PRESIDENT
A National Vice President who promotes a Nation from Central Nation.
DISCLAIMER
These policies contain statements regarding Arbonne’s compensation plan. There are no guarantees regarding income, and the success or failure of each Independent Consultant, like any other independent business, depends upon each Independent Consultant’s own skills and personal effort. Arbonne is a product-driven company that strongly encourages the use of its products before becoming an Independent Consultant.</LI>

I just want to point out that it is important to lookmore closely at the compensation plans. In most companies your team usually needs to do a certain amount for you to get paid your comissions. For example, in MK you get paid on your team members if they are active, and I believe, that means 5 of your team members must place a specific amount of retail sales for you to get paid. 2bepink , maybe you could explain that. So it isn't as easy as it appears. Also, marykay goes by the wholesale amount, (amount after consultant discount) to pay commissions.


Hope this makes sense. I spent several hours comparing both companies before I joined Arbonne, and the potential for more income is greater with Arbonne.


DeniseEdited by: darla605

It gets very confusing doesn't it?


This is how I am reading it &amp; also from what I remember of some conversations I've had from MK consultants.


In MK, I believe, you only get override checks off of personally sponsored consultants until you are a Director. In Arbonne you get override checks off of your successline when you hit District Manager, which is the first promo level. A lot easier to make than Director.


Also, until you make Director you are only getting 4% of those personally sponsored. Same as Arbonne for our consultants but once you hit DM you get 8% of those in your Central, which includes yourself. Then it goes up from there. And remember each time you promote you keep the benefits from the level you were at before as well as adding new benefits.


Now, with MK there are various bonuses you qualify for before you hit Director, as well as after. But Arbonne also has bonuses for their consultants at each level.


Arbonne's car bonuses are more than MK.


It is true that MK gets a bigger commission on retail than Arbonne. However, the real money is in the residual checks &amp; you have a bigger potential to earn more with Arbonne than with MK.

Different levels of Mary Kay:


Consultant:


1 - 2 active consultants - Sr. Consultant


3 - 4 active consultants - Star Recruiter


5 - 7 active consultants - Team Leader


8 or more active consultants - Future Director/Director-In-Qualificaiton (if consultant wishes to pursue directorship, then she enters what we call DIQ)


Grand Achiever - Car/cash option of $375/mo. Qualify over 4 mths./12 active team members/$18,000 in wholesale production. Consultant will need to maintain her monthly team wholesale of $4,500/wholesale. There is also a performance account where any month a consultant's team goes over the minimum wholesale amount, this is place into a performance account and the company will draw from that. Also, the first month after quailfiying for the car, the company gives the consultant a momentum month and they will double the total wholesale production for the month.


DIQ (Director-In-Qualification) - Consultant will build from 8 active to 30 active unit members over a 4 month period, while maintaining a minimum monthly production of $4,000.00.


Sales Director - 30 active unit members and on up!


Sr. Sales Director - 1 - 2 offspring sales directors


Future Exec. Senior Sales Director - 3 - 4 offspring sales directors


Executive Senior Sales Director - 5 - 7 offspring sales directors


Elite Executive Senior Sales Director - 8 and up offspring sales directors.


National Sales Director -
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(12/6) 12 first-line offspring Sales Directors, six of whom are Senior Sales Directors; or
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(11/7) 11 first-line offspring Sales Directors, seven of whom are Senior Sales Directors; or
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(10/8) 10 first-line offspring Sales Directors, eight of whom are Senior Sales Directors</LI>


I BELIEVE I READ SOMEWHERE THAT THE TOTAL # FOR NSD HAS INCREASED FROM 18 TO 20, BUT THIS IS WHAT I FOUND ONLINE IN OUR ADVANCE BROCHURE. GIVES THE BASIC IDEA THOUGH.

I just want to point out that it is important to lookmore closely at the compensation plans. In most companies your team usually needs to do a certain amount for you to get paid your comissions. For example, in MK you get paid on your team members if they are active, and I believe, that means 5 of your team members must place a specific amount of retail sales for you to get paid. 2bepink , maybe you could explain that. So it isn't as easy as it appears. Also, marykay goes by the wholesale amount, (amount after consultant discount) to pay commissions.


Hope this makes sense. I spent several hours comparing both companies before I joined Arbonne, and the potential for more income is greater with Arbonne.


Denise





Hi Denise, As long as the consultant is active, she will always receive a commission check monthly off of her team members that order. The jump from 4% to 9% is when you go from having 4 active team members to 5 or more.


To earn the 13%, there needs to be five consultants that order in one month, plus the recruiter will need to sell enough that month to place a $600.00 wholesale order. Each team member, though, does not have to place a certain amount. If the recruiter only placesa $400/wholesale order, then she will get the 9% check.


Usually a 4% check will average up to $50/month


A 9% check will avg. $100 - $300/month


A 13% check will avg. $300 and up/month


I hope I didn't miss anything. It does get confusing, doesn't it?


Jennifer - Yes, we only earn commissions on personally sponsored team members until we become directors. Edited by: 2bpink

Does Mary Kay have a "set" like Arbonne's RE9 system?


If so, how does it compare?


Blessed One

Hi! Mary Kay only carries skin care, cosmetics, and body care products where Arbonne carries these items, plus some vitamins, weight loss items and some other things as well. Mary Kay has been the best selling brand of skin care and color cosmetics for 12 years now as well.


I am friends with an Arbonne consultant and we have compared compensation plans for sales and team building where Mary Kay's commission plan is higher, but Arbonne has more of a variety of products.

I am sure that the Arbonne ladies can give you some more info on their products! I do love the Daily Detox Tea from Arbonne!It is yummy!!:) I do know that both companies have great products!!





yes, 2bpink!smileys/smiley2.gif I am her Arbonne buddy!smileys/smiley1.gif Turns out we live only about half an hour from each other and we have met and will continue to get together in the future and be supportive of each other in our direct sales companies-- even thoughit seems that we should be "competitors", we are dealing with the same issues of bookings, clients, downlines, recruiting, etc. I know I have a new friend in 2bpink! Thanks to wahm.com!smileys/smiley4.gif

I just want to say how proud I am of everybody! I love the fact that both teams can compare business to business in a professional and respectful manner. It really speaks well of all of us! Like Cassandra said, in the end, we are all dealing w/ bookings, clients, dowlines and recruiting and can all share advice.

I also wanted to add about Arbonne's comp. plan. I didn't realize this at first, but the consultant override is 4%, then replaced to 8% when you get DM. But when you get to Area, you get an add'l 6% w/ the 8% making it 14%. That is where you really start seeing the $$! I know a DM, yes a Distrtict Manager, who is making 3-4 K a month b/c she has a few serious business builders and lots of wholesale accounts. This is not the typical by the way. You have to work for the rewards, but it is possible!!


Also, our wholesale buyers don't have to meet any qoutas to keep their discount. They can buy whenever they want, and you get your commission!

How cool is that Cassandra!? That's great that you two can get together like that. I don't see any reasons why consultants from all skin care companies can't get a long. There is enough people for everyone. Plus we all have different philosophies so we target different markets.


Blessed One, what do you mean by something like our RE9? Do you just mean anti-aging? Or anti-aging &amp; repairing? Our stuff is proprietary so no one else is really going to have anything like it, but there will be anti-aging sets you can compare it to. smileys/smiley1.gif

Has anyone ever "sold" both Mary Kay and Arbonne
at the same time?


Blessed One

I believe selling both is against policy.

I don't think you are supposed to. In the manual it says you can do other businesses, but not ones in competitition of our products. MK is another skincare/cosmetic choice. But I do Southern Living At Home, and that is fine - home and entertaining products. I just can't promote Arbonne at a SLAH event or SLAH at an Arbonne event. But any other company w/ similar products is probably a no-no. Plus, it would be too dificult and confusing.

Exactly! smileys/smiley1.gif

Does Mary Kay have a "set" like Arbonne's RE9 system?


If so, how does it compare?


Blessed One





Mary Kay does have an anti-aging skin care called TimeWise. The skin care included the 3-in-1 cleanser, moisturizer and foundation. They still have the basic 5-step skin care as well, but the new TimeWise formula cleanser has the Cleanser, Toner, and Mask all in the same bottle.

How cool is that Cassandra!? That's great that you two can get together like that. I don't see any reasons why consultants from all skin care companies can't get a long. There is enough people for everyone. Plus we all have different philosophies so we target different markets.





Yes, it is neat that we can be friends and you can learn so much from someone who is in a different company too, I feel. You get an outside look at how to get bookings, etc. and you can help each other. There are plenty of people for all of us and what we do in both businesses is about building relationships with others. Life is too short to try and compete!


Blessed One - No matter how good a compensation plan is, you will truly only succeed if you really love the products. The best way to find out is to try products from both companies and compare what you think works best for you. You do have to really believe in what you are doing and that is where the success will follow, regardless of the compensation plan! Good luck to you! :)

Great point Sandy! You have to believe in your product, not just pick a product to sell to make $$. Your belief and commitment to the product is what sells.

With all due respect, I am an Arbonne person. I have never
even tried Mary Kay. I do have "many" friends who like their
products, however.


Blessed One

Forgive my ignorance, but is the Arbonne commission based on team Retail or Wholesale?


If I told $6,000 Retail in my first month, I'm an automatic Distrist Manager?

Forgive my ignorance, but is the Arbonne commission based on team Retail or Wholesale?


If I told $6,000 Retail in my first month, I'm an automatic Distrist Manager?



Yes, retail volume.

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Has anyone here ever "changed" from Arbonne to Mary Kay?


Just curious.


Blessed One

I have not heard of anyone changing from Arbonne to Mary Kay. There may be someone out there, but I don't know of anybody. But I have met ex MK consultants now doing Arbonne. Just being honest.


As far as the question about retail commission - retail volume is what promotes you from one level to the next, and what counts to maintain. Your commission is paid on the wholesale volume though. For example, yes, you will promote to DM w/ $6000 retail in 1-2 months, or $7500 retail over 3 months. But you will only get commission on the wholesale value of that amount. Make sense? So your commission is on the remainder 65% (of those you personally sponsor. Once you get DM, you get 8% commission on your personal sales too!!)