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View Full Version : Do you know where Paraffin comes from?
mkp_athome
10-07-2005, 06:52 AM
Paraffin is the sludge left over in a barrel of crude oil! smileys/smiley11.gif<?:namespace prefix = v ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" /></v:stroke></v:f></v:f></v:f></v:f></v:f></v:f></v:f></v:f></v:f></v:f></v:f></v:f></v:ulas></v:path><?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:lock aspectratio="t" v:ext="edit"></o:lock></v:shape>I checked in the encyclopedia to be sure that was correct! So...burning paraffin wax candles supports the oil industry and emits soot into your home and air!
smileys/smiley32.gifSoy candles are made from USA grown soybeans and vegetable oils. They burn longer and cleaner than paraffin. And are safe for your children. They wash up with soap and water and burn at a lower temperature.
If you would like to make safer soy candles for yourself and your family go to my website. If you would like to create an immediate income for yourself you can make and sell them as well.
You can join as a FREE associate and get your own back office, training materials and a free website and decide if this is the business for you. Meanwhile, you can buy some inexpensive products and sell them direct and get immediate income.
There are multiple ways to make money in this business, and it's SO FUN and EASY, it doesn't even seem like a business. Whether you are just interested in some soy candles or checking out the company, check out my site at www.cwlight.com/sensualscents (http://www.cwlight.com/sensualscents)
smileys/smiley32.gifSoy candles are made from USA grown soybeans and vegetable oils. They burn longer and cleaner than paraffin. And are safe for your children. They wash up with soap and water and burn at a lower temperature.
If you would like to make safer soy candles for yourself and your family go to my website. If you would like to create an immediate income for yourself you can make and sell them as well.
You can join as a FREE associate and get your own back office, training materials and a free website and decide if this is the business for you. Meanwhile, you can buy some inexpensive products and sell them direct and get immediate income.
There are multiple ways to make money in this business, and it's SO FUN and EASY, it doesn't even seem like a business. Whether you are just interested in some soy candles or checking out the company, check out my site at www.cwlight.com/sensualscents (http://www.cwlight.com/sensualscents)
LisaS
10-07-2005, 07:16 AM
I don't think there's supposed to be advertising here.
Soy Candle Gal
10-07-2005, 07:47 AM
Paraffin is the sludge left over in a barrel of crude oil! smileys/smiley11.gif<?:namespace prefix = v ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" /></V:STROKE></V:F></V:F></V:F></V:F></V:F></V:F></V:F></V:F></V:F></V:F></V:F></V:F></V:ULAS></V:PATH><?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><O:LOCK v:ext="edit" aspectratio="t"></O:LOCK></V:SHAPE>I checked in the encyclopedia to be sure that was correct! So...burning paraffin wax candles supports the oil industry and emits soot into your home and air!
The above is true. I also have the "Hazzard" list of "paraffin wax (household type)". The hazzard list is a Material Safety Data Sheet which lists hazzards associated with an item legally required to be provided to employees working with it in a manufacturing environment.
"Harmful if swallowed","avoid breathing vapors"."use with adequate ventilation." "emits toxic fumes under fire conditions" "Avoid contact with eyes, skin, and clothes"
Hmmm if we burn parafin wax candles we should not breath it in and we should open the windows? We should not touch it. No wonder I got headaches whenever I burned them. Yeah for soy! My home is now paraffin wax free smileys/smiley32.gif
P.S. I think her link is ok because it was also stating some important info.
The above is true. I also have the "Hazzard" list of "paraffin wax (household type)". The hazzard list is a Material Safety Data Sheet which lists hazzards associated with an item legally required to be provided to employees working with it in a manufacturing environment.
"Harmful if swallowed","avoid breathing vapors"."use with adequate ventilation." "emits toxic fumes under fire conditions" "Avoid contact with eyes, skin, and clothes"
Hmmm if we burn parafin wax candles we should not breath it in and we should open the windows? We should not touch it. No wonder I got headaches whenever I burned them. Yeah for soy! My home is now paraffin wax free smileys/smiley32.gif
P.S. I think her link is ok because it was also stating some important info.
Soy Candle Gal
10-07-2005, 07:56 AM
Here is the Material Safety Data sheet link I found:
http://www.sciencestuff.com/msds/C2200.html
http://www.sciencestuff.com/msds/C2200.html
missyroth
10-07-2005, 08:42 AM
Just remember, soy candles emit soot, too, if burned incorrectly. No candle is absolutely soot free by the fact that there is fire involved.
And not to start an argument or anything - I like soy candles, too - I found a very interesting link when I went out to search paraffin wax on the net just now. NASA is looking into using paraffin wax to fuel their rockets. I just noticed it's from 2003 so I wonder if anything came of that research? Hmm....
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/28jan_envirorocket.h tm (http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/28jan_envirorocket.htm)
MissyEdited by: missyroth
And not to start an argument or anything - I like soy candles, too - I found a very interesting link when I went out to search paraffin wax on the net just now. NASA is looking into using paraffin wax to fuel their rockets. I just noticed it's from 2003 so I wonder if anything came of that research? Hmm....
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/28jan_envirorocket.h tm (http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/28jan_envirorocket.htm)
MissyEdited by: missyroth
BLESS
10-07-2005, 08:52 AM
Paraffin Wax to fuel rockets? That can't be good for the environment. Hmmm...now you have me wondering what ever happened with that.
BE BLESSED
Dinika
BE BLESSED
Dinika
missyroth
10-07-2005, 08:58 AM
I tried to find more on it but a simple Google search pulls up 2003 as the most recent research. I'm very interested in finding more recent results.
Missy
Missy
cinnamonmomof3
10-07-2005, 09:01 AM
Just remember, soy candles emit soot, too, if burned incorrectly. No candle is absolutely soot free by the fact that there is fire involved.
You also need a good wick! I had some soy candles a few weeks ago they smelled great but when I put them out the smoke was so bad and the jars where black, yuck! It was the WICK it had a zinc core, eww. I now only buy Soy candles without zinc wicks. smileys/smiley11.gif
You also need a good wick! I had some soy candles a few weeks ago they smelled great but when I put them out the smoke was so bad and the jars where black, yuck! It was the WICK it had a zinc core, eww. I now only buy Soy candles without zinc wicks. smileys/smiley11.gif
MizzRobin
10-07-2005, 09:01 AM
I certainly do not want the sludge left over from crude oil to burn in my house!! YUCK!!
Thanks for sharing that bit of info!!!I will be definately telling my family this!
Thanks for sharing that bit of info!!!I will be definately telling my family this!
Soy Candle Gal
10-07-2005, 09:18 AM
You also need a good wick! I had some soy candles a few weeks ago they smelled great but when I put them out the smoke was so bad and the jars where black, yuck! It was the WICK it had a zinc core, eww. I now only buy Soy candles without zinc wicks. smileys/smiley11.gif
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I agree cinnamon! The wicks should be cotton!
Also, people say they have "soy" candles but some "soy" candles are 20% soy and 80% paraffin - why bother??? smileys/smiley5.gif
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I agree cinnamon! The wicks should be cotton!
Also, people say they have "soy" candles but some "soy" candles are 20% soy and 80% paraffin - why bother??? smileys/smiley5.gif
Soy Candle Gal
10-07-2005, 09:23 AM
Missy made a good point - anything with a flame will produce some soot - that is the nature of fire smileys/smiley1.gif. So if you must burn candles (I do- I just love candles!)Find one that produces less soot.
Lori Moreno
10-07-2005, 10:16 AM
paraffin smileys/smiley35.gif
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SandyMilton
10-07-2005, 10:42 AM
LOL Lori that about says it all smileys/smiley36.gif
mkp_athome
10-07-2005, 01:12 PM
Exactly ladies. There is some soot emitted just merely because it is a flame. And also the wick is vital. There are wicks also that have a lead core...talk about nasty. I am glad my company uses wicks with no-metals added!
And you always must keep wicks trimmed to 1/4". Just get in the habit of trimming it just before lighting and you should reduce your soot tremendously.
I'm glad I found this message board. All my kids are grown and we only have my fiance's 15 yr old still home. Everyone here has been so very nice!
smileys/smiley1.gifMK
And you always must keep wicks trimmed to 1/4". Just get in the habit of trimming it just before lighting and you should reduce your soot tremendously.
I'm glad I found this message board. All my kids are grown and we only have my fiance's 15 yr old still home. Everyone here has been so very nice!
smileys/smiley1.gifMK
Lori Moreno
10-07-2005, 01:18 PM
Wicks with a lead core?smileys/smiley3.gif
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mkp_athome
10-07-2005, 01:22 PM
I know. Seems that during the years they put lead in paint they also put a thread of lead into candle wicks. Guess they thought it was the best invention since sliced bread huh?
I'm not a tree hugging fanatic about natural things but I do try to keep things as safe as I can. I use only natural cleaning products when I can but sometimes bleach is the only solution, etc...
Also, I will reasearch the rocket fuel thing more and see what I find. I heard about that too.
MK
I'm not a tree hugging fanatic about natural things but I do try to keep things as safe as I can. I use only natural cleaning products when I can but sometimes bleach is the only solution, etc...
Also, I will reasearch the rocket fuel thing more and see what I find. I heard about that too.
MK
mkp_athome
10-07-2005, 03:42 PM
Ok, I found a couple articles about paraffin as fuel right from the NASA site. Here are the links:
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/28jan_envirorocket.h (http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/28jan_envirorocket.htm) tm
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/multimedia/audio/paraffin/p (http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/multimedia/audio/paraffin/paraffin1.html) araffin1.html
I guess as long as they are using rocket fuel already paraffin isnt much different. I'd rather see them use it than me in my home as a candle!
Onlysoy for me!
MK
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/28jan_envirorocket.h (http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/28jan_envirorocket.htm) tm
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/multimedia/audio/paraffin/p (http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/multimedia/audio/paraffin/paraffin1.html) araffin1.html
I guess as long as they are using rocket fuel already paraffin isnt much different. I'd rather see them use it than me in my home as a candle!
Onlysoy for me!
MK
elfinsnow
10-08-2005, 09:02 AM
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cinnamonmomof3
10-08-2005, 09:39 AM
I have an article somewhere aboutconfusing zinc core wicks with lead core wicks. There is a big difference. Lead core wicks were banned in the US years ago. They smoke, they are unhealthy, and unsafe. Unfortunately still wind up on the market due to imports.(An excellant reason to buy "made in the USA") Zinc core wicks are completely safe and commonly used, and they do not emit any more smoke than a cotton braid.
I am sure there is a difference between lead and zinc cores, but I do know that the zinc wicks do in fact emit more smoke than a cotton braid.
The Soy candles with the zinc core that I was burning smoked a lot! So much in fact that I had to toss them away. I have been burning candles forever so I know how to trim the wick ect, and these candles still emitted so much soot it was gross! I do have some other Soy candles that have an all cotton wick and they do not smoke at all (that I notice anyway) I just know for me that I will not burn any candles that have a zinc core! smileys/smiley11.gif(but that's just my opinion)<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
I am sure there is a difference between lead and zinc cores, but I do know that the zinc wicks do in fact emit more smoke than a cotton braid.
The Soy candles with the zinc core that I was burning smoked a lot! So much in fact that I had to toss them away. I have been burning candles forever so I know how to trim the wick ect, and these candles still emitted so much soot it was gross! I do have some other Soy candles that have an all cotton wick and they do not smoke at all (that I notice anyway) I just know for me that I will not burn any candles that have a zinc core! smileys/smiley11.gif(but that's just my opinion)<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
mkp_athome
10-08-2005, 09:49 AM
Soy is too soft to be in a pillar or taper shape. So that means that birthday candles are paraffin. A chemical has to be added to soy to make it hard for pillars and tapers so I only make container ones.
You can make floater soy candles for floating in the bath or a dish. They end up burning completely so just remember to 'fish' out the wick. smileys/smiley36.gif
Makes me wonder whats in the wicks of the 'trick' candles that relight. Hmm gonna have to research that one.
MK
You can make floater soy candles for floating in the bath or a dish. They end up burning completely so just remember to 'fish' out the wick. smileys/smiley36.gif
Makes me wonder whats in the wicks of the 'trick' candles that relight. Hmm gonna have to research that one.
MK
cassandra
10-08-2005, 10:09 AM
wow! I never knew that about paraffin!! Do you all know that mineral oil is also a byproduct of crude oil? same with petroleum jelly! Baby oil is nothing more than mineral oil with chemical fragrance. all these petro based, crude oil products in our everyday environment makes you want to barf!smileys/smiley11.gifEdited by: cassandra
kristinsmom
10-08-2005, 06:00 PM
I didn't think there was supposed to be advertising here either.....
After doing some research I found some interesting facts, but instead of trying to get arguments started, I think everyone should reseach what they are selling so that they know the FACTS. This is a good site:
www.igiwax.com/wax_faq.shtml
Very interesting about the misconceptions concerning both parafin and vegetable wax.
After doing some research I found some interesting facts, but instead of trying to get arguments started, I think everyone should reseach what they are selling so that they know the FACTS. This is a good site:
www.igiwax.com/wax_faq.shtml
Very interesting about the misconceptions concerning both parafin and vegetable wax.
SandyMilton
10-08-2005, 06:22 PM
Here's one site I found interesting (scroll down for the EPA report):
http://web.ksl.com/dump/news/cc/series/candepa.htm
"Wax candles contain petroleum wax, vegetable
wax, animal wax, or insect wax as the primary fuel. The wax may contain additives for color,
fragrance, stability, or to modify the burning characteristics."
Animal and insect wax??? EEEEWWWWW!!! smileys/smiley11.gif Ok nevermind, just dawned on me (DUH moment lol) BEESWAX! LOL!
Edited by: dreamakr36
http://web.ksl.com/dump/news/cc/series/candepa.htm
"Wax candles contain petroleum wax, vegetable
wax, animal wax, or insect wax as the primary fuel. The wax may contain additives for color,
fragrance, stability, or to modify the burning characteristics."
Animal and insect wax??? EEEEWWWWW!!! smileys/smiley11.gif Ok nevermind, just dawned on me (DUH moment lol) BEESWAX! LOL!
Edited by: dreamakr36
mkp_athome
10-08-2005, 06:26 PM
My first post in this discussion was too much of an Ad and I didnt intend to offend or break the rules.
I'm not trying to attack anyone elses business that also sells candles, I just was sharing some FACTS that I know.
I do not plan to post in this particular candle discussion any further, I do not want an arguement started nor do I want to leave this forum.
Best of luck to you in your candle biz kristinsmom. Didn't mean to offend you.
MK
I'm not trying to attack anyone elses business that also sells candles, I just was sharing some FACTS that I know.
I do not plan to post in this particular candle discussion any further, I do not want an arguement started nor do I want to leave this forum.
Best of luck to you in your candle biz kristinsmom. Didn't mean to offend you.
MK
elfinsnow
10-08-2005, 06:28 PM
Hmm- is that where "Bug Candles" come from?
smileys/smiley36.gif(Ok- bad joke- it`s bedtime!)
Seriously- Ewww @ insect wax! And Animal wax? Uh- yuck!
Terry
smileys/smiley36.gif(Ok- bad joke- it`s bedtime!)
Seriously- Ewww @ insect wax! And Animal wax? Uh- yuck!
Terry
kristinsmom
10-08-2005, 06:30 PM
Nope, it's my daughters nickname