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View Full Version : Soy vs. Regular Candles?


shoogiedesignz
07-09-2007, 10:36 AM
Which type of candle do you prefer. I would like to start making Soy candles, but I have read places that the scent throw is not as good as with other candles. By your experience, is this true??

Thanks!


karadawn
07-09-2007, 03:57 PM
Hmmm where did you read that? Be sure your sources are coming from companies that aren't selling the candles, they tend to hype up their own products and say whatever just to make the sale. And by that I mean facts on both soy and paraffin.

I've always had a better scent throw with soy, but that's just me. Of course what it really comes down to is the quality of the wax to start with (not the particular type) and how much scent is used (there is a max amount of oil you can use, but many don't come close to it because oil is so expensive).

CraftyCreations
07-10-2007, 06:44 AM
I have mostly dealt with soy wax and find that the scent throw is fantastic. I have had people tell me they are amazed that they don't even have to burn their candles - they open up the jar and their whole room is fragranced by the open jar.

I love working with soy - I find the clean up is so much easier than with parrafin.

-Sherri


LAscents
07-10-2007, 08:23 AM
I agree - I have tried 5-6 different brands of soy and found the throws to be weaker and more faint than other types of wax. I finally quit trying.

karadawn
07-10-2007, 12:24 PM
I agree - I have tried 5-6
different brands of soy and found the throws to be weaker and more
faint than other types of wax. I finally quit trying.

How much scent were you adding per pound for these different types of soy wax?
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LAscents
07-10-2007, 01:08 PM
I was speaking in generalities of different soy candles that others have made. I have yet to find any soy that holds a strong, long lasting scent.

karadawn
07-10-2007, 01:43 PM
Oh I see, so you have never made a soy candle yourself.

This is what I was talking about when I said what it comes down to is how much oil is added. We add the max amount (as to many others), and our scent throw is fantastic. It's very possible you have come across companies which do not add the max, or much oil at all. Since you didn't make them yourself, there's no real way to tell how much oil was added making your comment an opinion and in no way a true reflection of soy wax in general.

Personally I feel a little offended you would post your personal opinion when you have zero facts behind it, thus putting down all of us who make soy candles. If you didn't notice, this folder is for candle makers and the poster was looking for information from those who actually do make candles. Not those looking to boost their own sales by putting down other companies.

This isn't the first time I've seen insulting comments from you in this folder, and I suggest they be taken elsewhere.

LAscents
07-11-2007, 10:29 AM
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Passes a cocktail to Kara. Breathe deep sweetie. WOWSA. Sorry you're having a bad day hon.

Whom are you addressing with your never making soy candles zing? I have made plenty of candles, so I assumed I was the place for discuss candle making. Ya know.. what customers like, scents, wax, containers, wicks, benefits of soy vs. palm, vs. paraffin vs. food grade petroleum vs. blends ... all that happy jazz. Anyhoo, lemme go check the forum title again to make sure I am at least in the right place because I'd sure hate to be the object of your big stick .....

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Yup = candle makers. Right place. Again, not sure who you spanking about insulting comments - as I don't see anyone who has offended you. So I just wanted to offer you a warm hug, some prayers and perhaps a glass of wine and nice candle would help you relax.

Is there anything your candle MAKER cohorts can help you with?

Have a SUPER day, hope you're feeling better soon! smileys/smiley20.gif



Edited by: LAscentsy

ctv123
07-11-2007, 11:27 AM
As a long time viewer, I have never posted or felt the need to post, but thanks to your immature responses and ignorantly rude posts on other topics, I have actually became a registered user just to respond.

First of all, your tags say that you are nothing more than a rep for another company and do NOT make your own candles. I wouldn't call putting down another CANDLEMAKER a great triumph.

You my friend, are the one who needs to see if anyone can give YOU some help with your blindness in picking the folders you post in. If you were trying to put in your links and adds, I would think that you would find a less obvious way of doing it.

To top it off, the person who started this thread simply asked a legitimate question and did not asked to get drug into a childish war. Please take your rude comments to the correct folders next time and leave the legitimate candlemakers to get their responses.

TerriHap
07-12-2007, 07:51 AM
I haven't had any problems with scent throw in my soy candles. Yes I do make my own for personal use. Scent throw in your candles has alot to do with using the correct amount of fragrance oil, wicks, type of wax. Takes alot of experimenting. There aresome great fragrance oil companies out there. You just have to test, test, test till you get it right. So my personal opinion I love soy wax candles since they do have a great scent throw. Heres a great site for info. Good Luck !! www.candletech.com (http://www.candletech.com) . Also another for fragrance oil reviews. www.scentforum.com (http://www.scentforum.com) .

gingerpeach
07-13-2007, 08:07 AM
I'm a paraffin user but I don't knock those that use soy. Allcandlemaking involves lots of testing for the proper oils,wax and wick combo. THere are companies that specialize in supplies for the soy lovers. I'm sure both waxes have their good and bad points...it's all personal preference and we should all be open to others thoughts and opinions. Ginger

simmertins
07-15-2007, 08:03 AM
I have been pouring soy candles now for sometime and have to say that not all fragrance oils work well in soy. This is not to say that they work any better in paraffin since I am not a paraffin candle maker. Making candles is an art and each new fragrance needs to be tested. So many factors come into play from jar size to which wick works for that oil. I have to agree with karadawn when it comes to how much oil is added to the wax. Knowing your wax and the max amount it will hold makes a big difference. TEST....TEST....TEST is the most important factor in making a candle no matter if it is soy or paraffin.

Tricia

naturelit
10-11-2007, 06:44 PM
Tricia is right. When it comes to candles you just have to test for the best results! I started out trying paraffin and didn't get good results including no scent. But it could have just been the wrong type of paraffin wax or fragrance. I didn't like paraffin though and I switched to Soy and did a lot of testing with it. You can only be happy through testing until you have the right potion! I think that holds for any type of wax you choose. You can't choose a type of wax purely based on scent.. You just have to choose which type you like working with and then like tricia said.. TEST....TEST... &amp; TEST!!!! Good luck to you!

SimplyAlex
10-12-2007, 12:38 PM
I find that soy candles have an excellent scent throw. However, I've never personally made any candle BESIDES soy wax, so I can't really compare.

However, I will be honest and say that even when using the most fragrance possible with a great wax ... if the candle is left for too long, the scent throw is going to be less. However that's the same with any candle I find. The long it sits around doing nothing, the less it's going to smell.

I found a Sweet Pea candle I had made back in March. Lit it up and couldn't really smell anything. But I made another Sweet Pea (same bottle of oil and same wax) and it smelt awesome lol.

jmealii56
10-24-2007, 05:40 PM
I have been making Soy Candles for 10 months now. Never made candles before. Very easy to make and easy to clean. The scent throw is awesome. There are several types of soy wax out there. The one that I use is a special proprietary blend for the company that I work for. Through trial &amp; error I have learned and people love my candles....

Utopia
11-03-2007, 11:33 AM
Just making a comment as a user. I have found soy candles have a greater scent than paraffin wax candles. Just my experience from candles I have purchased or been given.

I also have noticed that we tend to burn the soy candles until they are used up. We have many paraffin candles that we have partials left over. We have gone soley soy when we buy.

Annie27
12-10-2007, 09:36 AM
I love soy - it is cleaner - I always buy soy candles now. Like Utopia - I find that they burn right out - no wasted "leftovers"

murph151
01-30-2008, 03:26 AM
Hi All,
murph here does anyone use a blend of vegetable waxes mixed with Soy? if so will thiseliminate soot or is soot a result of the wick or the fragrance oils. Also paraffin wax is a by-product of the oil industry and not a renewable sourse. I'm sure Soy burns much cleaner the paraffin.
Regards
Murph

breigk
02-09-2008, 08:26 PM
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Sharada
02-10-2008, 06:05 PM
I hope I can comment on this. As an ametuer candlemaker I have done both soy and parrafin and had good results with both. I just make candles for personal use and of course family and friends and I get the most awesome compliments on my candles--like where can I get more of these, they smel great the scent lasts, etc... SO I think it has more todo with the amount of oil added than most other issues. Of course more oil is a stronger scented candle and usually has scent throughout and not just patches of the candle. (Ihave run into that with candles bught from others-the reason I do my own now) But zi think most of you knew that already-LOL. I am still learning and alwayswill be on this topic so I can't wait to see more info about candles so off I go to keep reading.
SHARADA

Linda Hinkle
02-10-2008, 07:19 PM
Hi Sharada, just wanted to let you know if you are using soy wax you don't want to put more than 1 - 1 1/2 oz of fragrance oils per lb of wax if you put more they won't burn right. I just got done making candles for my tax lady! Isn't it great to make the whole house smell http://forum.wahm.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif Edited by: lighthouse girl

Sharada
02-10-2008, 07:46 PM
I don't think I even used that much in the candle I just did and boy is it potent. My sister gave it to he MIL from my niece for V-DAY and they said they entire house smlls awesoe from that candle so only abou1/2 oz of scent and the candle smells great and then to top it off she won't brn it she uses a warmer for all of her candles so next time no wick (save some money there). I LOVE my candle warmer so I think he whole world should have one but that is just me.-LOL
I ppreciate the awesome info on here
THANK YOU SO MUCH FR THE INPUT
SHARADA

funybuny
02-13-2008, 06:21 PM
I've tried 2 soy candles and my MIL has tried several also. We both think that the scent throw on paraffin is much better. But, this is just based on the candles that we have tried. I'm actually using a parasoy blend for the candles I make.

funybuny
02-13-2008, 06:23 PM
Ooops...double post :)Edited by: funybuny

karadawn
02-14-2008, 06:24 AM
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I've tried 2 soy candles and my MIL has tried several also. We both
think that the scent throw on paraffin is much better. But, this is
just based on the candles that we have tried. I'm actually using a
parasoy blend for the candles I make.

Just wondering, were all the candles the same scents or did you use different scents for all them? That will make a HUGE difference since some scents will throw better than others. Also there is sometimes a difference between cold throw and hot throw (some candles will smell more just sitting than they do burning).

dnkcandlesplus
02-18-2008, 07:06 PM
Two more things to take into consideration. The temp. that you cook your scent at and the length you cook it. For those of you who don't know what I mean, cooking is the length of time you maintain a certain temp after you pour your scent. The heavier oils require a longer cook time. Also if you pour your scent with a temp that is too high, the scent will evaporate and your scent throw will be next to nothing.
I have been doing soy for about a year and a half and after reading up on what paraffin is made of and the advirse health affects of it, I will never pour anything but soy.
Sorry for the long post. My two cents turned into four.
Darrell

Jamie Tollefson
03-01-2008, 06:31 PM
I was wondering if we can talk about some hints on making soy candles. We are just starting out and need some advice. Advice on wax as far as brand, what about coloring and what about scents? Also on the scents, how much do you put in? Do you measure by the weight or the fluid ounces? How is the scent throw? Any help you can give me woudl be great! Thanks again and I look forward to your reply! Jamie