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nikita4spas
07-05-2007, 04:59 PM
I am doing a spa tomorrow night with 3 Arbonne attendee's. Any advice on how to handle questions about products and other questions. I did see the sheet on Forms on File about Arbonne vs Beauti Control, but these are reps. Thank You, Nicole


pampergirl
07-05-2007, 06:15 PM
I saw some information that might help. Go to www.spasomechix.com; under BOOKING - How to Handle BeautiControl vs. Arbonne.

Good Luck...and most of all have funsmileys/smiley2.gif!

nikita4spas
07-05-2007, 06:20 PM
Thank You so much. I would love it if I could get them to join my teamhttp://www.wahm.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif
I have read over the information, I am going to print it and study it before I start.


goatesgirl
07-05-2007, 06:29 PM
I saw some information that might help. Go to www.spasomechix.com; under BOOKING - How to Handle BeautiControl vs. Arbonne.

Good Luck...and most of all have funsmileys/smiley2.gif!


I can't find this...what sheet are you talking about and where do I find it?

nikita4spas
07-05-2007, 06:58 PM
From: "Here is the information from www.spasomechix.com


The beauty of this exciting industry is that there is room for every company to co-exist, offering individualized products to address individual consumer needs. As today’s consumer becomes for exposed to the benefits and necessity of cosmetics, their expectations become more and more varied. As a result, a “one size fits all” product line is a thing of the past.
BeautiControl's product positioning is to develop very high tech products that compete with today's serious skin repair market. BeautiControl’s product positioning is “Science as Nature Intended”, meaning that we use extensive botanically derived ingredients in our formulations in addition to the latest ingredients that technology allows for the prevention and repair of skin damage.
Arbonne is a company that has good products that appeal to a certain type of consumer. Arbonne has chosen to take a conservative, "botanically based" product positioning that is very safe and conservative.
There are several types of consumers in today's world - There are those that do not want change, there are those that want to cosmetics that are derived from natural or organic sources, and there are those that want the latest that science and technology has to offer in order to achieve more aggressive anti-aging benefits.
I feel that Arbonne has a good product that directly addresses the needs of their target market.
Below are some comparison claims between Arbonne and BeautiControl. Every person has different expectations of their skin care products. It is important to find the product line that best represents what the consumer is looking for in skin care treatments. The success of a product line is based on its ability to address the concerns of the client.

<H1 style="MARGIN: auto 0in">All Natural :</H1>
· Neither BeautiControl or Arbonne make “all natural” or “organic” claims regarding products. While we include many natural ingredients in all of our products, we do not market our products as "all-natural". The claim "all natural" is a misnomer, in fact. According to governmental regulations, "all natural" would imply that 100% of the ingredients are from a natural source.

Botanically based:
· Both BeautiControl and Arbonne use an extensive and similar amount of botanically derived ingredients. “botanical based” is really more of a marketing term that is relative only to the positioning of the product and it’s ability to target a particular consumer.

PH Correct:
· All reputable companies will formulate a product regimen to maintain the correct pH balance of the skin. This is the reason that it is recommended to use a complete regimen of products from the same company to ensure that the products are designed to work together.

Dermatologist, Sensitivity and Allergy Tested (hypoallergenic):
· Both Arbonne and BeautiControl test product for this claim. This is a standard claim to ensure the safety of a product.

No Animal Testing:
· Neither BeautiControl or Arbonne test products on animals.
· BeautiControl does use Emu oil on a limited basis for several of our body care formulations. Emu oil is purchased as a by products of the meat packing industry. No animals are killed or harmed for the sole purpose of their oils.

Mineral Oil, Synthetic fragrances or dyes:
· Arbonne claims not to use mineral oil, synthetic fragrances or dyes in their formulations. BeautiControl does not make this claim. There are instances where we use synthetic fragrance ingredients to cover raw materials in the formulation that might posses a mal odor in the formulation. The term “fragrance” implies that multiple ingredients were used to create the scent of the product. Many of those ingredients are natural, while some might be chemically manufactured.
· BeautiControl uses mineral oil in product designed to target very dry skin conditions, and offers oil-free options for our consumers who are looking for oil-free product option. We use a pharmaceutical grade of mineral oil - the same grade that is used in prescriptions for extreme dry skin conditions. While there are alternate oils, (many of which we use), there are none that have been proven to be more effective for those suffering from extremely dry skin symptoms.
· BeautiControl only uses colorants and ingredients that are approved for cosmetic use. These ingredients are proven to be safe and effective


I hope this information is helpful.
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nikita4spas
07-05-2007, 06:59 PM
THANK YOU PAMPERGIRL!!!! YOU ARE AWESOME

goatesgirl
07-05-2007, 07:05 PM
I saw the one from spasomechix but could not find the one from forms on file

SpaDivaMO
07-06-2007, 06:30 AM
All,

I have had this happen not only with Arbonne, but MK as well. When they bring it up, usually when I ask what skincare regimine everyone is using, I simply tell them "That's great that you are already using products! How are you liking it?" They usually say it's great and so I say "I would really like you to experience our facial and would love to hear what you think when we are done....how your skin feels compared to what you are currently using". 9 times out of 10, they like our products better. In fact, I had 3 ladies that had just paid for the Arbonne starter kit a month before that signed up with us anyway because they liked our products better.

Now, you can run into what I call my "hecklers" and here is how I handle them. I have a very detailed Q&amp;A which was given to us by our director. When "pointed" questions are asked, I pull it out, hand it to that person, explain that they should be able to find their answer in it, and move on. This has worked like a dream! It is too big to cut and paste, but I will email if you wish. Be sure to read through it first though so that you at least know BC stance and support it:)

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

spa-me-2
07-06-2007, 07:17 AM
Kari,

I would love a copy. spame2@yahoo.com

Thanks,

SpaDivaMO
07-06-2007, 07:25 AM
Gotcha:)

Spas4u
07-06-2007, 07:29 AM
Kari,
Please send me a copy as well. Spas4u@cinci.rr.com

Thanks!

tn_spa_diva
07-06-2007, 07:37 AM
pretty please send me a copy as well.
songbird0401@yahoo.com (songbird0401@yahoo.com)

SpaDivaMO
07-06-2007, 07:46 AM
On its way:)

rfusselman
07-06-2007, 08:43 AM
I would like on too! beckyfusselman@gmail.com

Thanks!

BoyzOnMySide
07-06-2007, 08:45 AM
Would you mine sending me a copy as well?

Thanks, Kari!Edited by: BoyzOnMySide

SpaDivaMO
07-06-2007, 08:53 AM
Gotcha:)

spa_melanie
07-06-2007, 09:12 AM
Hello, I am new to WAHM and fairly new to BeautiControl. I have been reading everyone's advice for days now and all of you have a wealth of information that has already been helpful to me. Thank you! Do you mind sending me your Q &amp; A sheet for the "hecklers"? I haven't had any yet but I'm sure I will. I did have one that sold Clinique for 5 years and she loved our products and has become a regular customer. Thanks in advance for the info. spa_melanie@verizon.net (spa_melanie@verizon.net)

SpaDivaMO
07-06-2007, 09:24 AM
On its way

SpaCrazy
07-06-2007, 10:13 AM
I would love it if you could email one to me as well.
BCSpaEscap@aol.com

I am new to WAHM, but I have to say how great this is to communicate with so many different consultants!

kmnegron
07-06-2007, 10:17 AM
Would you mine sending me a copy as well? Thank you!!!

bcknegron@yahoo.com (bcknegron@yahoo.com)

spa2relax
07-06-2007, 10:35 AM
Kari,

I would love a copy also teresa412@bellsouth.net.


Thanks,

pampergirl
07-06-2007, 10:50 AM
Me too!!
beautymet@bellsouth.net

Thanks!

SpaDivaMO
07-06-2007, 10:58 AM
Certainly:)

redspamom
07-06-2007, 11:01 AM
would you mind sending me a copy of this too?? thanks so much!!! Kel

SpaDivaMO
07-06-2007, 11:18 AM
Gotcha

redspamom
07-06-2007, 11:50 AM
http://www.wahm.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gifYou are wonderful!! thanks so much. Kel

nikita4spas
07-06-2007, 01:51 PM
could I please get a copy. My spa with the arbonne representitives is tonight. Thank You. njmartinezus2000@columbus.rr.com

SpaDivaMO
07-06-2007, 02:16 PM
On its way. Be sure to let us know how it goes! Good Luck and remember to just maintain your "servants heart and mind".

BCSarah
07-06-2007, 03:42 PM
Please send me a copy too!
Thanks!!
sbland75@yahoo.com

spanana
07-06-2007, 05:37 PM
Kari,



I would like one too. beauti4u@triton.net



Thanks in advance,



Paulette Lewis

Future Director of BeautiControl

goatesgirl
07-06-2007, 05:41 PM
I saw some information that might help. Go to www.spasomechix.com; under BOOKING - How to Handle BeautiControl vs. Arbonne.

Good Luck...and most of all have funsmileys/smiley2.gif!


I still cannot find the sheet from forms on file so if anyone can help me out I would appreciate it...Kari I would love this sheet as well because I run into lots of MK users around here...

IndySpaGirl
07-07-2007, 01:20 PM
Kari,

Hope I'm not too late, can I have a copy of the Q &amp; A?

Thanks!

celestecedwards@yahoo.com

07-07-2007, 03:02 PM
i would love to see the Q and A too please.


thanks,
Alyssa

alyssa_bourne@comcast.net

pinkfrogy
07-07-2007, 03:10 PM
Hi Kari,
Could you send it to me too please.
Thanks.
pinkfrogy@shaw.ca

melpal
07-07-2007, 08:10 PM
Hi Kari,

I just had some Mary Kay and Arbonne "hecklers" at a spa this weekend. I think I handled it well, but I sure wish I would have had your info to hand them instead of wasting other guests' time explaining it to them! I'd so appreciate it if you could send it my way too!!

Thanks in advance!
Melissa
melissapallex@yahoo.com

spamedic
07-08-2007, 03:27 PM
This would be great to have. Would you mind emailing one to me as well?
Thanks so much.
SpaMedic

gonnabe
07-08-2007, 07:31 PM
I would also like to have a set.

funforvivian@bellsouth.net

serenityspas
07-08-2007, 10:41 PM
If you go to spasomechix.com.....go to booking on the left hand side....then to "How to handle BeautiControl vs Arbonne".....it's got all of the info.

SpaDivaMO
07-09-2007, 08:23 AM
Sorry for the delay! Think I got everyone!

Starbaby4412
07-09-2007, 09:41 AM
Spa Diva- If you don't mind- I would love a copy as well.
My email is Starbaby4412@aol.com
Thanks sooo much!

SpaDivaMO
07-09-2007, 10:44 AM
On its way

CountryBeauti
07-09-2007, 03:15 PM
Kari -
May I have a copy as well?

lauren.doty@hughes.net

go2girl
07-09-2007, 08:24 PM
Kari, could I get one too? Pretty please? smileys/smiley1.gif Thanks!
Debbie
debasmus(at)hotmail(dot)com

SpaDivaMO
07-10-2007, 06:59 AM
On their way:)