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I have been going back and forth how to go about this at parties. Did I want right now money, or build. I have read through all the messages, and I have finally made my mind up! I am definetly offering the wholesale to everyone. What was holding me up was how to still gift the hostess. This is what I have come up with after reading through many suggestions. Tell me what you all think?


I will offer the RSVP option at every party. I found a "Spa Package" that gives an awesome example of what to purchase w/ this. They get tons of stuff! BUT, I make sure that they understand the free product should go to the hostess to gift her for having the party. I am sure they would be fine w/ this considering the hostess is a friend/family!


If they open a $100 wholesale account, the retail goes toward the hostess. They pay the $29 now, get the 35% discount, but the account starts when they host a party. Hopefully they will host a party since I am giving up my commission. They will get their free product at their party with the party retail going towards the $100. If they do not want to host a party, then the hostess should get the free gift. Again, only fair.


If they have a $250 wholesale order, they can either choose the free product, or the $100 for $20. The hostess would get the other bonus.


Then, all the retail orders would go towards the hostess total. It would work out great if the retail orders totaled $350. Then you could RSVP under the hostess and she gets $350 free! Plus, you get a $50 bonus.


I think w/ this approach, I get to keep hostess happy, get more wholesale buyers, and pump up my retail volume!!

I personally do this: offer the wholesale biz to everyone, after all this is how I got started and many of my team. I always promote the $100 sign up which includes the free product. If they decide to be a biz builder I will offer daily support and training and do their first 2 parties for them with my products.


For my hostess I always give them a sea salt scrub at the very beginning of the night (samples and catalogues have already been dropped off a week prior). TO get $100 for $20 they need at least $250 in sales and 1 party booked.


We have to give something to get something in return - if it is a great party and the hostess went to a lot of trouble - I pay the $20 on the $100 for $20.


Keri Burks


Independent District Manager


www.PureSkinSystems.myarbonne.com

I am confused by the wholesale and retail thing. Doesn't everyone sign up to be a consultant?

Felicia-Some folks do not sign up even to get the 35% discount. I don't understand it but some cannot believe that is a no strings attached, no minimum, etc. deal.


As for the hostess $100 for $20 I get confused as to what to do if there are more signups than wholesale orders. Drawing on my optimistic side, let's say 20 guests show up. 10 sign up for the wholesale account & place $100 orders.5 are not interested at all. The remaining 5 order a sea salt scrub to help out their friend the hostess. Total retail for the party is about $130. She hosted a party that definitely yielded more than $250 in orders but not in retail value. Where does that leave the hostess?


I have thoughts on this but would like to hear from others. I am on my way out to an appointment (wish me luck!) and will check back in when I return.


TIA for your ideas!!

I meant that I would offer the wholesale option to everyone, along with the RSVP option.


Kiana's mom: If this situation were to happen, I would ask that the wholesale buyers host a party for you since you are giving up your commission. Then, you could give them the 35% that night, but put the order towards the hostess so she can get her rewards. Then, at the other parties, give them their free product using the party total to reach the $100. If they don't want to host a party, but still open a $100 account, I would kindly let them know that they are getting a great discount, but we still need to reward the hostess for having the party by giving her the free product. I can't imagine anyone having a problem with this being the hostess is usually a friend or family and everyone knows that the hostess is supposed to receive free products or a huge discount from their sales.


So, if your scenario did happen, which would be an AWESOME party, you would have $1130 retail to go towards the hostess, giving her $400 for $80, plus hopefully 10 more bookings!!

The only trouble with that is that people who sign up usually sign up to get the 35% discount immediately. I have never had 3/4 of the party sign up and regular party goers usually outweigh the sign up's. Also, you could offer her things that you have on special for that month...for example you could also offer her the Guava Berry this month etc. You want to get as many $100 sign ups as you can because at District Level you bonus on this. Also this will help your ASAP pts which will help you get that vacation (we all deserve).


I was totally in a lull last week - BUT this week I am gung ho and ready to make it to area or at least half way.


Best of luck everyone, fill up those calendars for October:))


Keri Burks


Independent District Manger


www.PureSkinSystems.myarbonne.com

Oh definetly they want the discount right away. I meant give them the 35% right away, but wait until their party to give them the free gift. You basically are waiting to open their account until their party. Then they can get there free gift w/ the $100 order at their party, you get another party booked, and your hostess still gets the retail she needs to get her $100 for $20. It all makes sense in my head, but I have a heard time verbalizing it!!

Oh I get it:)) Obviously not enough coffee yet:)) I think that sounds like a great idea!!


What have you girlies got planned this week? I have one presentation on Wednesday. I have saved all the local ads you get in the mail and I am going to call all the salon/spa ones today. I figure we have nothing to lose - they can either say yes or no.


Keri Burks


www.PureSkinSystems.myarbonne.com

I had this happen to me. I had a show of only 2 guests and both signed up wholesale. They didn't order enough to get a 100 for 20. They weren't interested in hosting parties so i went ahead and signed them up and payed out of pocket for my hostess. I charged her 20 plus shipping (which i normally dont do) and tax. She ended up paying around 30 and then i payed around 40 something for her to get her 100 for 20.


I just put stuff like that on my credit card and pay it off when i get my arbonne check. i dont like doing this but it's worth it to me to get a wholesale buyer. I relaly want to make district, although it aint happening this month unfortunatlye like i had hoped. Here's to next month!


Take care


michele

I really think we need to match the effort of our hostesses. When I have done parties in the past, Southern Living, Pampered Chef, etc, I knew that what I received depended on the sales of my party. I never expected the consultant to have to pay out of her pocket. Also, I never received a gift just for hosting like we do. For, example, I give the hostess the RE9 body set for hosting. That is an $85 value! I say this b/c I have had hostesses in the past that I could tell did not put much effort in at all. I had one invite her daughters 15 year old friends, and that was it. How can I possibly get alot of business from 15 yr olds!? She just wanted a spa party for her daughter. So if I can tell that the hostess really did try to get people to come and followed up, then I will do what I can. But I don't think we are expected to make up the difference to reach $250 if the party didn't do it on its own.

I had one last week who made it to $230 - she had cancelled previously on the day of her party (a lttle irritated as all the stuff was in the car). I told her that I would keep the party open until Sunday and to see if she could get any more orders. She admitted not making an effort and had her kids running in/out of the room. It was a little like a zoo and not the best but $230 is $230 after all!!


Keri


www.PureSkinSystems.myarbonne.com

I want to make sure I understand:


If a person wants to sign up as a Wholesale Buyer at a presentation,


1. you give them 35% off and tell them their order for that night will go to the hostess so she can get her rewards & free products.


2. Then you sign them up and tell them about the product specials like the $100 + free product and the RSVP.


--Does anyone ever get upset that what they bought at the presentation doesn't count toward their own purchase special?? Just wondering if they go "well I could spend that $200 toward my own RSVP instead of on my friend's party"?? maybe I'm just assuming they would be upset??


Just want to make sure I understand how this works correctly...Thanks!

I get really confused on this one. If we offer the biz as well as the products as told, I would think that doing as dexcribed above would upset & confuse people. Let's take the case of someone ordering the RE9 set. At $266 retail, they want to sign up, get a free product, & receive $100 for $20. After offering the biz opportunity, I cannot see how we could tell them that they have to put that order in under the hostess.


I would love it if someone could explain it so I "get" it.

smileys/smiley2.gif Here in Rhode Island no one has heard
of Arbonne yet so it's a fairly open market. I don't see why you can't
offer a discount of 10, 15, 20, or 35% and still make money for
yourselves. You could even have a bowl with slips that guest's can pick
to see the % they will get for ordering that night.

Mu upline says that she has had tons of people who sign up for the %
and then never order again. That helps you to boost your RV but does
nothing in the long run to sustain long term growth. With the new
Results Approach I have seen alot of confusion and while everyone makes
their own decision to do what they want to do my team and upline are
doing it the old-fashioned way...building slowly for sustained growth.

If I have a party I do offer the wholesale discount to the hostess so
she can see how easy it is to make $$. If everyone is getting a
wholesale deal then how can you show people that they can make money
doing parties. I don't mind giving a few serious people discounts but
also want to show people I am serious about thisa as a business. When
you go to a store to buy something if it's not on sale they don't mark
it down just to make the sale. And you can also offer different % off
on the lines. Maybe the skin care lines are 15% off this month or
something like that.

You guys are right though there's a ton of ways to do these parties.
I'm thankful for the forum though cause it definitely is a great place
for ideas and sharing.

Just my humble 2 pennies, lol.

Valeriesmileys/smiley9.gif

Kiana's Mom -- I'm confused too, that's why I posted the verify I understood correctly...it doesn't seem the new wholesale buyer gets a good deal if we put the order under the hostess, but I don't know how to make sure the hostess gets her benefits any other way??


Has the company ever said how to handle who to put orders under when the wholesale buyer signs up at a party??


Please some of you experienced Arbonne Ladies & Gents, Let us Arbonne babies know how this works....please, please, please.....


Thanks!!!

When my sister attended her first party, she was told that if she wanted to sign up as a consultant, she needed to place a $100 order that night &schedule to hostess a party. Then at her party, she could sign up as a consultant and get the discount as well as the hostess benefits. I signed up under her for the discount & have never even attended a party.

Every other party I have attended never offered a discount to me. So, I think just offering any discount to people at the party is their benefit! They should know they are their so the Hostess gets a huge discount/free product. I always knew that when I attended parties.


The reason to offer the guest the wholesale discount, but put the order under the hostess is so the hostess gets the volume needed, and you hopefully get a party booked from the guest getting the discount. I would never tell them they had to put in a $100 order, or host a party to be a wholesale buyer. They will learn the truth eventually.


So, when the guest books a party, at her party you would put the orders under her account so she would get her free product then! Plus the other bonuses.


I do agree with Valerie in her post above. If your in an area fairly new to Arbonne, you do not have to offer the wholesale. When I first signed up, I asked my upline "How do you make money giving your profit away!!" She said,well if you don't, they will find some other consultant that does! That bothered me at first b/c I think people initially sign up for the right now money. Then they can decide later on how they want to do their business.