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that have succeeded and got the car. If for some reason you cannot fullfill your monthly quota, do they yank the car away? Make you pay? Or is it yours to keep as a gift for making them money?


My reason for questioning this, is that I know someone who works for MK and they take it all away from you, say if "life happens". Which too me - sounds cruel.


Please tell me that Arbonne is better that way! Anyone?


Thanks...


Also, It seems to me that there are soooo many new NVP's and I just wonder how the heck their downline keeps sales up for them. OR do the NVP's buy their way up??? (I have heard that this is the case?)


And is that why you see so many products on eBay?


Thanks, and don't throw tomatoes my way please, I really wonder about this.

Each time you promote to a level you are given a 2 month building period and all the volume you (and your central) acquire during your building period goes into your Performance Account. Every month afterwards any volume over your maintenance requirement- also goes into your Performance Account. Anytime you promote someone to your level (and they become your First Generation) you get an additional 2 month building period during which all your volume goes into your Performance Account. So you can see that your Performance Account can get quite large! If there's ever a month that "life happens" and your maintenance requirement is not met- it's drawn from your Performance Account, which is like a savings account. I have never heard of anyone losing their level once they reach VP, by that time it's basically a snowball effect smileys/smiley36.gif. When you reach VP level and pick out your white Mercedes- the car is yours, and you will get $$ monthly for it ($800 RVP, $1200 NVP).


So many people have yet to hear about Arbonne! And those who have tried Arbonne LOVE it and so the re-order rate is outstanding. The hardest part is getting started, but once the momentum is going, it's impossible to stop! No way to "buy your way up", especially since you do have to maintain your central (you and everyone in your downline).


I doubtthe people on ebay are in a management position (DM, AM, RVP, NVP) because they will lose their consultant account with Arbonne if caught selling on ebay, it's not worth the risk for those who are striving for the next levels.

I hear ya abouthow hard it is getting started. I'm having a time right now, but I'm not giving up because I believe in Arbonne. I just need to make that 1 sale to get my ball rolling. I'm glad that they don't take away your carif something happens.

Cassandra explained the performance account so well. I think the performance account & grace periodsare such a gifts to us. It really helps us to succeed & not worry about losing what we just worked so hard for.


Yes, there are a lot of new NVP's. They do not buy their way up. I am not even sure if that would be possiblewith how Arbonne's successplan is written.You have to have a solid team to maintain it. And you have to do your part to maintain it as well, you can't just rely on your team's efforts. Bottom line is that they keep their sales up because we have a great product, a great companyand a great system for getting the product out there. So that helps themto findbusiness builders & to keep the business builders. And Arbonne has a high re-order rate so sales aren't really an issue. Most people who "get it" will "Arbonnize" their homes. Once they get used to how their skin feels after using Arbonne most will stay loyal.


And the people on ebay generally are not consultants. They are probably affiliated with a consultant somehow& that's how they get the products though. A few might be consultants selling on ebay butthey won't be consultants much longer b/c the company does not tolerate it. I really do not understand why people do that. They aren't seeing the big picture. Instead of wasting their time doing whatever they have to do to get those products to sell they could be building a business and make real $$$.

The car is a lease or you buy it yourself and you do get compensated
for the payment. I suppose if you didn't make production you could just
pay the payment out of your own money. The only DS company that
actually gives you a car(Mustang convertible or Lexus) with the pink slip</span> is BeautiControl.

WOW... Thanks Ladies for your responses. I really learned alot!


Cheryl....now your selling Jafra? Your all over! LOL


Christine


P.S. I have been a wholesale buyer now for a year....love the products, just really did not understand the car deal. smileys/smiley2.gif

Yes, I know. Sometimes it takes a little "trying out" to find the right company.



Back to the car thing. You know at least with the Arbonne car
program I believe you have the option to pay the payment yourself. I
don't think I have ever heard of Arbonne taking a car back from a
Regional or National Vice President. Their lease program is much
different than MK's because with Arbonne it is my understanding that
the consultant (RVP/NVP) purchases or leases the White Mercedes and
then the company compensates you for your payment based on production.



In Mary Kay, the company leases the car or you can opt for a cash
compensation in lieu of the vehicle. That is why when MK ladies
don't make the production, the car can be taken back. But I also think
they have an option to make the lease payment themselves if they choose
for a month or so until they get their production back up. At least
that's the way it used to be.



Just to clear the air here, I hope that you all are not getting the
wrong impression from my posts. I am just adding what I know about the
car programs, not promoting one company over another.

Actualy from what I've read from MK Directors you can take up the payments for yourself so you don't lose the car.

I thought this was an Arbonne forum.


Why all the talk about MK or Jafra?


I want to learn more about running my
Arbonne business. There is enough of
that to keep me busy without worrying
about somebody else's business.


Just my thoughts.


Thanks,


Terry and Betty smileys/smiley32.gif

Christine asked a question regarding the differences between the Mary
Kay car program and Arbonne's so we were responding to her.
I added the bit about BeautiControl because companies always advertise
that you can win or drive a free car but BC is the only company that
actually gives you one. I don't think anyone was talking about Jafra.smileys/smiley1.gif
Edited by: cvkjafra

I was just thinking outloud.


Thanks,


Terry and Betty smileys/smiley32.gif

Christine asked a question regarding the differences between the Mary Kay car program and Arbonne's so we were responding to her. I added the bit about BeautiControl because companies always advertise that you can win or drive a free car but BC is the only company that actually gives you one. I don't think anyone was talking about Jafra.smileys/smiley1.gif


This is just my opinion of course &amp; I understand what you are saying but to me the difference is not a big deal. Yes, Arbonne gves you a car allowance &amp; you can choose to use it towards the car or not. You can choose a model that is cheaper than the allowance &amp; get the difference on your check. Or you can choose a model that is more than the allowance &amp; pay the difference yourself. If you do choose to use the allowance for the car then you are driving a free car, doesn't matter whetherthe companygives the $$ to you to pay it or straight to the dealership. And it is my understanding that when the car is paid of it is yours to keep &amp; do what you will with it. Keep it as a second car or gve it to someone, whatever you want to do. And all this is on top of the override checks. So the difference really, to me, isn't an issue. And personallyI prefer this system to them actually just giving me the car. Some people don't like the kind of ar a company chooses so they would prefer the money over the car. Or some people want a ar &amp; the money so this way you can have both if you choose.


And for the record the company doesn't advertise that you can win or drive a free car or that they are giving it to you. They advertise a car allowance. Some consultants may word it wrong &amp; if so then that should be corrected but the company doesn't do it.

I do that too A LOT!!smileys/smiley36.gif

In reality I don't have a clue how the Arbonne
car program works. That is not even on my
radar screen YET.


However, when the time DOES come, I will be
looking into it with some gusto. :-)


Terry and Betty

I get what you are saying Jennifer, but I do think in MK they take your
car away, whereas in Arbonne I don't think they do that. I could be
wrong.



Personally, when the time came no matter what company I was with, I
would take the cash because I would rather buy my husband and I a new
touring BMW motorcycle!smileys/smiley36.gifsmileys/smiley36.gifsmileys/smiley36.gif

Thanks Cheryl &amp; Jennifer: You have gone over and beyond what I expected!! I really did not know all of this stuff.


Cheryl: I love your knowledge and think like you...trying to find the right fit...that is why I am asking. Looking into other options.


Terry &amp; Betty: It was an Arbonne question, and sometimes you have to talk about other MLM's to compare them....so I find it helpful from gals who been there, donethat... and can doit with honesty.

You're right Cheryl. They do take your car away &amp; I have heard it is rather unpleasant. But I was also told you could save face &amp; make payments to keep it. Either way it's a rather unpleasant thought. smileys/smiley6.gifAnd, like you, I have never heard of someone getting their car taken away in Arbonne. Yikes, that would be just awful!


LOL,you sound like my husband. I am pretty sure he's take his dream Harley over any car I could get. smileys/smiley17.gifAnd truth be known I love motercycles as well but trying to be practical for my 3 year old. Cause if I had my choice I'd be getting the cute little Mercedes convertible! So both of us will not get what we want &amp; settle for the 4 door sedan "mom" car, lol. Someday though...

Christine, not to change the subject, but how does your bridal business
work? I remember when you were researching that. You can PM me if
you want so we don't clutter the thread!

In response to the car question, with Arbonne the way I understand form reading the policies manual is that vp's get the extra cash bonus for the car if they own or lease a white Mercedes. just my 2cents worth. smileys/smiley17.gif