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[KariC]

Hello Everyone!

I am working on my first affiliate site using the free Affiliate Masters Course from Ken Evoy's Site Sell. I am thinking of buying the full program for myself for my birthday.

Do any of you use this? Cause I have a question before I make this big decision. If I buy this, use the tools and create my site there, how locked into it am I? If I want to change my site and move it since I would have used their tool to create the site how easy is it to do? If anyone has any ideas on this it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Kari

[Minella]

I don't have any experience with it myself, but here is a thread on the warrior forums about it. Thought you might want to check it out Site Build It

[KariC]

That was a really helpful thread at the warrior forum. Still lots of pluses and minuses. I am going to keep working with the free information from the Site Sell site and see how far I get. The first problem is going to come when its time to actually build the site I think. Right now I will keep going to that point while I decide if I want to build this first site using the SBI site builder or Word Press or something else. I am still trying to find out if you own your own domain name after a year with SBI or not and how easy it is to move your site. I am thinking of joining for a year and then moving on.

[KariC]

So no one else has any opinions on SBI? For? Against? Anyone?

[Yuliya Mironova]

Against, personally, but I haven't used it (and wouldn't for myself), and therefore feel a bit embarrassed giving an opinion on the basis of collected second-hand information.

According to what I hear, it's terribly thorough and there's an enormous amount of "education" there in the process of building a site following their system, but these days it's all pretty old-fashioned information/education, because there's really no need, any more, for anyone who isn't planning to become a professional website-builder to make a site that way. Packages like "WordPress" (originally "just blogging software") can be used far more easily than SBI's approach, to make static sites. All simple blogging software has static page facilities, now. There's no significant difference between a "blog" and a "non-blog web-site", or at least, there doesn't have to be.

You just don't need to know anything about HTML, CSS and all that other stuff to make professional-looking sites which are fit for SEO and whatever their marketing purpose is.

So, I think SBI is probably good and thorough and does exactly what it purports/claims to do at its not-very-cheap price, and might be unnecessary.

[SEO-Services]

I tend to agree with Yuliya, you can put together a site quite easily with WP, Drupal or Joomla - all good free products. Plenty of templates out there or small cost to get custom one from scratch...

I tend to feel you should have some idea of HTML and CSS but it's not really essential.

[Yelena]

this is funny how everyone has an opinion about SiteSell without even trying their product!

It's funny because you guys really don't know what you are talking about... sorry but I just don't know a better way to break it to you, LOL!

Some of the things I see online about SBI are ridiculous - there's maybe 10% of truth, and the rest is complete nonsense - I am curious as to where all this disinformation comes from?

SiteSell revolutionized the entire industry, pioneered a lot of what internet companies are doing/copying today, and they are still cutting edge - constantly evolving and ahead of everyone. So there goes your "outdated" myth.

And it's not just about building a site - if web presence is all you need, then I agree you don't need SBI. But if you actually want to be found online when people search for your products/services, then SBI is the only way to go for a newbie/non-techie person.

Heck, even a lot of programmers choose SBI - because it takes care of all the technical stuff, and lets people focus on more important things (content and product creation, etc).

Mine is an SBI site: [link removed by mod] - I started it with ZERO knowledge of how to build a site. I initially built it to promote our local house painting company. But now it grew into something bigger - over 1,000 unique daily visitors and a very nice passive income stream (plus free daily leads for our physical business). And I've been working on my site - really working - just for the past 6 months or so.

My traffic and income is growing every month (my target is 5,000 daily uniques by the end of this year) - and I'm just scratching the surface when it comes to my site's potential! Oh, and I've used only maybe 30% of SBI's resources. I have no idea what "limits" people are talking about!

I'm sure I too sound like a "cult member" and I really don't care, I take it as a complement. I have a firsthand experience of using this business-building system with great success. I swear by it.

I just had to share!

Yelena

[Yuliya Mironova]

Originally Posted by Yelena

this is funny how everyone has an opinion about SiteSell without even trying their product!

Funny to some, perhaps - but not surprising and potentially highly relevant, too. I hesitantly gave my opinion, announcing openly that it was mostly second-hand information, because I've done a lot of research on Site Build It (having at one time been very close to using it myself).

I decided not to, after much of what I learned, and I think when someone's asking for an opinion on whether or not to try something, hearing from someone who's done quite a bit of research and decided against something is probably going to be a very legitimate and potentially helpful use of the forum, don't you? That's certainly included in what I'd want to be hearing, if I were asking these questions myself.

Otherwise you can only ever really hear from "enthusiasts", and although that may be just as relevant a perspective, it can also be a little one-sided, you know? So I hope that when I ask about stuff myself, people who have had a good look, discussed it with many users and then decided against it will feel very welcome to reply, without being inhibited by people pointing out that they're giving an opinion without having used the product!

[Yelena]

Hi Yuliya,

do you mind sharing the things you learned that stopped you from going the SBI route? As an "insider", I might be able to "bust" some myths, or clarify a few misconceptions

On a side note, I personally prefer to do research and gather information only from those who have had a first-hand experience with the thing/product/service/etc. Otherwise you get a "broken telephone" effect.

Yelena

P.S. I just read your blog page - great business philosophy. But a lot of links are broken - have you abandoned your blog or moving it somewhere?

[Yuliya Mironova]

Originally Posted by Yelena

Hi Yuliya,

do you mind sharing the things you learned that stopped you from going the SBI route?

For me, it all really boiled down to the fact that I decided using simple blogging software, these days, could produce the same outcome that I wanted in a lot less time (and with very much less expense!) than using SBI.

I was also influenced by many threads I read about SBI by using the "search" function at the Warrior Forum, to see what a few dozen really experienced internet marketers thought about it. A friend who's a very active and well-known member there guided me, a little, as to "whose opinions are generally reliable and well-reasoned" (which is difficult to judge for yourself, as an outsider), but I found anyway that the overwhelming preponderance of opinion there from former SBI users was that although SBI is a good and reliable product/service that "does exactly what it says on the can", it's really very cumbersome, time-consuming, old-fashioned and unnecessary (again, not to mention "expensive"!), when you look at the more modern alternatives - especially given that these days all the popular blogging software has "static page facilities" and can be used, very much more easily and without SBI's dramatic learning-curve, to make "non-blog websites" too.

My own opinion is that even a technophobic ignoramus like myself can make smart, professional websites these days, without needing to know anything about "HTML" and "CSS" and all that other stuff that just makes so many people's eyes glaze over.

Originally Posted by Yelena

I personally prefer to do research and gather information only from those who have had a first-hand experience with the thing/product/service/etc.

I hear you - I did plenty of that, reading all those posts from professional internet marketers who were former users - posting obviously with no overt incentive and not trying to promote/sell anything different - urging their fellow-Warrior members to keep away for exactly the sorts of reasons I'm trying (albeit necessarily vicariously) to recall here. But I'm glad it's working out for you.

Originally Posted by Yelena

I just read your blog page - great business philosophy. But a lot of links are broken - have you abandoned your blog or moving it somewhere?

Noooo, not at all - I'm just slow updating it. The only non-functioning links I'm aware of are those to The Networking Marketing Forum, and that's just because the forum itself is offline at the moment for "maintenance" (I'm hoping it'll be up and running again, soon enough). But if you find any others there not working, do please let me know, if you can! As you can see, I don't sell or promote anything at all on my blog (and don't even give the name of my company) or have any affiliate links or anything like that: it's strictly "informational only", and I don't exactly update it regularly, either.

Thanks, and good wishes,