quote:Originally posted by hbarbre: This program is a TOTAL waste of time and money. DO NOT purchase it!
Edited to add: Now, their email addresses come back undeliverable...hmmm.
Holly
Iwas looking at the Links page for (plentyoffish.com) the other day and I ran accross this Kathryn Scott (SCAM!!!)...(-;
Now I will admit to beig a stupid man and to have been scammed once or twice in my life...*J*
But I have learned one very important point about (SCAM) recignition and it all boils down to this: ( If is sounds TOO GOOD to be true??? It's probably a SCAM)...*J*
In retrospect after thinking about this Kathryn Scott Scam, she dose diliver 100% of the goods and she dose lay out the scam in great detail, it is also enormasly successful for her,but you don't need to spend the $99.95 to optain it...(-;
Just print out her advertisment and study how she put that together,it is brilliant Advertising at it best and she sell's you absolutly NOTHING for only $99.95 and don't forget this is a real steal of a deal,there's onlt 3 left,get them while their HOT!!!...(-;
That's it, That is what she is selling,the real seller is most likely NOT Kathryn Scott and is most likely an off shore account,that is for all intensive purposes untracable...*J*
It's a slick trick and like WC Fields always said " There's A Sucker Born Every Moment " ...(-; ================================= I work hard and long, I am a very successful and well known Firewood Man, I have millions of faithful and adoring clients, But I always entertain my clients and I give them my best,everytime...(-;
My vocation is my life and a large part of my pride, but I am 1 in a million, there are thousands of other buisness people who are only in it for The Money Honey...(-;
posted September 04, 2005 09:56 AM
well it takes no brain surgeon to figure this one out. I pieced it together to be basically you build a site just like the one you visited, tell people to buy something to guarantee them money but not disclose what it is or hint to how to do it. Tells you that only a limited supply is available, give you a guarantee and then once purchased.... they have to do the same to generate that much money.
I would just like to add that every single automatic cash generator site looks exactly the same and is very POORLY built. The product price is the exact same range. If you get an idiot to visit your site any given day and fall for the same thing you fell for, then you are guaranteed $97 a day. IF you checked your emails to RESPOND to people who tried to contact you to give them the false impression that someone in customer service will actually respond to their wants, just like you responded to the other victim's email.
It is very simple.... and sad. The reason why you have to set up seperate ATMs for these kinds of things is so that you wont get in trouble once people start asking for their money back, all paypal can do once they discover your scheme is try to get you to refund the money back but by that time the money has been transfered to your actual bank account at which case paypal closes your account and you can re-open another paypal account and start fresh...... LAME
posted September 14, 2005 12:33 AM
Same scam K Scott site can also be found at http://www.netpaychex.com where now it's a blonde Janet Strong selling the same exact ebook. Still any doubt it's a SCAM!
And Tony's not a scam he's just hoping some sucker will spend thousands of dollars on a feel good conference and set up there own site start marketing it and get 3 suckers to come to a feel good conference before they'll see a dime of those thousands. But once that happens you're no longer a sucker but a success. Congats!
Of course, I got scammed by this program as well. But, I have to tell you, I've learned my lesson and I am a much better person today because of it. Everyone who's thinking about purchasing this program. Please don't!!! Isabella is not a real customer. I don't want anyone to get hurt like I did with this criminal. Everything she (Isabella) said. Is everything "Katherine Scott" said to me. Isabella is Katherine Scott. The gentlemen who said he didn't have groceries for one week because he gave KS his last $97.00; He's telling the truth because that was my last $97.00 too! and trust me she could of cared less. I told her I was poor and she just told me It's my problem that I decided to order the program and not hers or his. Who knows who Katherine Scott really is. But one thing I do know is whatever she, he or it is they should be ashamed. I basically told her in every email I sent to her I can't eat. I have no money. Can you give me my money back. She was so mean to me. It was like a bad dream.
[This message has been edited by Caprice (edited September 20, 2005).]
posted September 28, 2005 06:01 PM
This is definitely a scam, and it seems they create some new stupid site with some beautiful MILF every few months. Katherine Scott's site, and netpaychex and others are all run by Divine Impact. http://www.divineimpact.com
DivineImpact Corporation 14101 Southcross Dr. Suite 165 Burnsville, Mn. 55306
Leave it to "the church" to take your money..HA What a crock this is! Someone in an earlier post posted the name and address of some Ministry...some guy named Martinez..ALSO from MN. This is all VERY fishy indeed...
posted September 28, 2005 06:15 PM
I found an excellent site with a lot of information on the dubious scammers known as "Divine Impact." It is completely a front! The so-called "charity" that receives money from this "Katherine Scott" site and others is apparently Divine Impact...a fake charity!
It tells you everything you need to know about this so-called Divine Impact and will prove this is a complete scam and everything is run out of Minnesota
posted October 02, 2005 02:09 PM
Just a suggestion guys ... report this 'company' (Katherine Scott) to the Better Business Bureau. They work.
As for Isabella, it is completely laughable that it would be 'silly' to show bank statements .... just block out the personal information, what better way to prove the money you are making?
Futhermore, as a webmaster, I know that your site would not be down 'for days' when updating it, especially if it/they is/are sites that are making this supposed money from.
One last thing, as an internet marketer, I know that the first line of her last entry was an ad copy. "I just got back from Florida, and boy was the whether nice down there ..." one of the oldest tricks in the book for ad copy to get someone to purchase a product.
I have not, and will not purchase the scam, but I would suggest to all that have and that consider it a scam, go to http://www.bbb.org and file a complaint about it.
Best of luck!! (Feel free to check out my site with my products)
posted November 15, 2005 10:24 AM
AFTER READING THE NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS HERE AND OTHER MESSAGE BOARDS I UNDERTOOK AN INVESTIGATION OF AN OBVIOUS INTERNET AT HOME BUSINESS SCAM, HERE ARE MY FIDNINGS:
1. Peter Martinez is a 41 year old "Match Book Minister" who only became a "Man of the Cloth" after having started and closed a succession of so-called businesses. He did not attend any seminary or school of divinity nor did any recognised sectarian church ordain him.
2. Peter Martinez has swindled his way through his entire adult life. Leaving a trail of broken promises and unpaid debts.
3. Peter Martinez is a clever and resourceful con-man who has earned his living by duping many people, including hundreds of former members of his so-called congregation "New Kingdom Ministries International".
4. Peter Martinez is Julie Parker, Janet Strong, Katherine Scott and all the other online female shills he uses to deceive the unwitting public into buying this "At Home Business Scam"
5. Peter Martinez is the author of the touts for Katherine Scott posted on this message board under the name Isabella Tatorio.
6. Peter Martinez operates his various scams under the following names:
a. Personal InstantCash.com B. E MarketProfessionals c. New KingdomMinistries International d. Cashmoney77.com e. PersonalInstant cash.com f. DivineImpact Corporation.
7. Peter Martinez, not Isabella Tatorio, did return from Florida in March of this year.
8. Peter Martinez, not Isabella Tatorio, but he does have teen-age daughters.
9. Peter Martinez is of Puerto Rican Decent, not Mexican or African American.
10. Peter Martinez does live in a million dollar home in Prior Lake Minnesota. . However the home is titled to New KingdomMinnistries International and was purchased via a "Contract for Deed" from the Fee Owners on January 1, 2005. The contract calls for payments of over $13,000.00 per month. The purchase price was $1,250,000. Only $25,000.00 was given as a down payment. The Contract was not executed by Peter Martinez but was executed by his trusty partner in "Crimes against Christians" Ms. Linda Royce. Not so coincidentally Ms. Royce is also Mr. Martinez's right hand woman in his new cover DivineImpact Corporation.
11. Peter Martinez has funnelled some of the proceeds from this Internet scam to fund the purchase of this million-dollar home.
12. Peter Martinez, is a career con man, the people who have bought into this "stay at Home Business" scam are just his latest victims.
If you carefully read the touts he posted under the name Isabelle you will see that it is clearly not the writing style of a woman. These posts were sent by Mr. Martinez to lull his suckers and to allow Mr. Martinez to defend his scams to fortify his outsized ego. Unfortunately even the clever Mr.Martinez could not really defend such an obvious scam. It’s amazing how con men try to defend themselves to their victims. What really irks me is the "God Bless" interspersed in "Isabellas" letters what a phoney. "Pastor Peter" will recite chapter and verse while he fleeces his next victim or when confronted by his past victims.
The reason Mr. Martinez or "Pastor Peter" as he sometimes refers to himself, has been able to continue this Internet scam for as long as he has, is because the amounts, $97.00, that he conned you people out of is so small. Not enough for anyone to start even a small claims court action.
If I were a victim I would immediately contact the Minnesota Attorney General's Consumer fraud Division. Perhaps someone already has? Minnesota is a state that is very hard on consumer fraud. While I think 'Divine Intervention" may ultimately get Mr. Martinez certainly the Minnesota Attorney General intervening in his life will.
I hope this information will be helpful, not sure you will see your money back but perhaps you can help put Mr. Peter Martinez out of business and in jail where he belongs and save hundred if not thousands of other people from being scammed by this slippery "Christian Con Man" and the heart ache that goes along with it.
If you care to reply directly to my post my email address kieran_obrian@yahoo.com, I am looking forward to your reply Mr. Martinez or "Pastor Peter".
posted November 15, 2005 10:26 AM
AFTER READING THE NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS HERE AND ON OTHER MESSAGE BOARDS I UNDERTOOK AN INVESTIGATION OF AN OBVIOUS INTERNET "AT HOME BUSINESS SCAM". HERE ARE MY FIDNINGS:
1. Peter Martinez is a 41 year old "Match Book Minister" who only became a "Man of the Cloth" after having started and closed a succession of so-called businesses. He did not attend any seminary or school of divinity nor did any recognised sectarian church ordain him.
2. Peter Martinez has swindled his way through his entire adult life. Leaving a trail of broken promises and unpaid debts.
3. Peter Martinez is a clever and resourceful con-man who has earned his living by duping many people, including hundreds of former members of his so-called congregation "New Kingdom Ministries International".
4. Peter Martinez is Julie Parker, Janet Strong, Katherine Scott and all the other online female shills he uses to deceive the unwitting public into buying this "At Home Business Scam"
5. Peter Martinez is the author of the touts for Katherine Scott posted on this message board under the name Isabella Tatorio.
6. Peter Martinez operates his various scams under the following names:
a. Personal InstantCash.com B. E MarketProfessionals c. New KingdomMinistries International d. Cashmoney77.com e. PersonalInstant cash.com f. DivineImpact Corporation.
7. Peter Martinez, not Isabella Tatorio, did return from Florida in March of this year.
8. Peter Martinez, not Isabella Tatorio, but he does have teen-age daughters.
9. Peter Martinez is of Puerto Rican Decent, not Mexican or African American.
10. Peter Martinez does live in a million dollar home in Prior Lake Minnesota. . However the home is titled to New KingdomMinnistries International and was purchased via a "Contract for Deed" from the Fee Owners on January 1, 2005. The contract calls for payments of over $13,000.00 per month. The purchase price was $1,250,000. Only $25,000.00 was given as a down payment. The Contract was not executed by Peter Martinez but was executed by his trusty partner in "Crimes against Christians" Ms. Linda Royce. Not so coincidentally Ms. Royce is also Mr. Martinez's right hand woman in his new cover DivineImpact Corporation.
11. Peter Martinez has funnelled some of the proceeds from this Internet scam to fund the purchase of this million-dollar home.
12. Peter Martinez, is a career con man, the people who have bought into this "stay at Home Business" scam are just his latest victims.
If you carefully read the touts he posted under the name Isabelle you will see that it is clearly not the writing style of a woman. These posts were sent by Mr. Martinez to lull his suckers and to allow Mr. Martinez to defend his scams to fortify his outsized ego. Unfortunately even the clever Mr.Martinez could not really defend such an obvious scam. It’s amazing how con men try to defend themselves to their victims. What really irks me is the "God Bless" interspersed in "Isabellas" letters what a phoney. "Pastor Peter" will recite chapter and verse while he fleeces his next victim or when confronted by his past victims.
The reason Mr. Martinez or "Pastor Peter" as he sometimes refers to himself, has been able to continue this Internet scam for as long as he has, is because the amounts, $97.00, that he conned you people out of is so small. Not enough for anyone to start even a small claims court action.
If I were a victim I would immediately contact the Minnesota Attorney General's Consumer fraud Division. Perhaps someone already has? Minnesota is a state that is very hard on consumer fraud. While I think 'Divine Intervention" may ultimately get Mr. Martinez certainly the Minnesota Attorney General intervening in his life will.
I hope this information will be helpful, not sure you will see your money back but perhaps you can help put Mr. Peter Martinez out of business and in jail where he belongs and save hundred if not thousands of other people from being scammed by this slippery "Christian Con Man" and the heart ache that goes along with it.
If you care to reply directly to my post my email address kieran_obrian@yahoo.com, I am looking forward to your reply Mr. Martinez or "Pastor Peter".
posted December 14, 2005 01:26 AM
WHAT A SCAM, I purchased Instant personal cash machine system for $97us by credit card I have not recieved any system lucky I'm getting a refund
posted December 19, 2006 05:41 AM
There are 100% scams in the world. The only problem is if something is unusual or too hard for them they quickly turn to the word scam. Most people give up to easily, not just on business ideals, but everything that causes a problem in life. Maybe that's why so many people will never reach financial wealth. The common person is in a set way of thinking. Think outside the box and use your brain. The information provided in this program does work. How do I know you may ask? You may even be thinking I am a huge liar. It works because I was using the same methods to make money long before purchasing this e-book. I simply e-mailed support and told them I want a refund because her information was old news to me. You want to know what happened? I recieved an refund for $97 two days later accompanied with an e-mail thanking me for trying out the program. I don't use e-market, I make all my own graphics and websites. I will sum up the e-book your screaming scam about for you and see if you can understand this. Pay attention and read carefully.
You use services such as clickbank and the like to find e-books you can attain re-sell rights for. You write an e-mail to the owner of the e-book and propose an offer, usually splitting 50%-50% profit for selling their e-book. It is a win-win situation because you make money from information that is not your own and at the same time the publisher makes money from multiple people selling their e-book. After you have made the deal you percede to create your website, whether it be through a company such as e-market or going solo. A much easier way and less expensive is to use a basic web template. If you need a webhost for your websites, just ask me. I know the best webhost around today and trust me, their offers are the best you will ever find. Now once you have your website established you uses Google and similar marketing methods to actually get traffic. If you spend a little time familiarizing yourself with advertising the Google way you will find out that it is not as expensive as others will have you believe. You have to understand what you are doing and exactly how it works to maximize it's potential. If everthing is done correctly you should start noticing the traffic and sales. Information is huge, people are always looking for some type of information. Take advantage of it. The information on the internet is broad, you could have one site selling a beginners programing book and another site selling a cooking book. The e-book you people keep calling a scam is simply information. $97 is a little too high in my opinion but people pay it. Why? People always want information, thats why. Don't make problems harder than they really are, always approach any problem in life from many different angles and you will eventually find a way that works. Here is an idea for you who understands how the e-book works, take the information learned and tweak it to make it even better. Come up with new ideals and ways to make money and then write your own e-book and sell it. Money is not everything, but if you want more of it start working smarter.
quote:Originally posted by Kieran: AFTER READING THE NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS HERE AND ON OTHER MESSAGE BOARDS I UNDERTOOK AN INVESTIGATION OF AN OBVIOUS INTERNET "AT HOME BUSINESS SCAM". HERE ARE MY FIDNINGS:
1. Peter Martinez is a 41 year old "Match Book Minister" who only became a "Man of the Cloth" after having started and closed a succession of so-called businesses. He did not attend any seminary or school of divinity nor did any recognised sectarian church ordain him.
2. Peter Martinez has swindled his way through his entire adult life. Leaving a trail of broken promises and unpaid debts.
3. Peter Martinez is a clever and resourceful con-man who has earned his living by duping many people, including hundreds of former members of his so-called congregation "New Kingdom Ministries International".
4. Peter Martinez is Julie Parker, Janet Strong, Katherine Scott and all the other online female shills he uses to deceive the unwitting public into buying this "At Home Business Scam"
5. Peter Martinez is the author of the touts for Katherine Scott posted on this message board under the name Isabella Tatorio.
6. Peter Martinez operates his various scams under the following names:
a. Personal InstantCash.com B. E MarketProfessionals c. New KingdomMinistries International d. Cashmoney77.com e. PersonalInstant cash.com f. DivineImpact Corporation.
7. Peter Martinez, not Isabella Tatorio, did return from Florida in March of this year.
8. Peter Martinez, not Isabella Tatorio, but he does have teen-age daughters.
9. Peter Martinez is of Puerto Rican Decent, not Mexican or African American.
10. Peter Martinez does live in a million dollar home in Prior Lake Minnesota. . However the home is titled to New KingdomMinnistries International and was purchased via a "Contract for Deed" from the Fee Owners on January 1, 2005. The contract calls for payments of over $13,000.00 per month. The purchase price was $1,250,000. Only $25,000.00 was given as a down payment. The Contract was not executed by Peter Martinez but was executed by his trusty partner in "Crimes against Christians" Ms. Linda Royce. Not so coincidentally Ms. Royce is also Mr. Martinez's right hand woman in his new cover DivineImpact Corporation.
11. Peter Martinez has funnelled some of the proceeds from this Internet scam to fund the purchase of this million-dollar home.
12. Peter Martinez, is a career con man, the people who have bought into this "stay at Home Business" scam are just his latest victims.
If you carefully read the touts he posted under the name Isabelle you will see that it is clearly not the writing style of a woman. These posts were sent by Mr. Martinez to lull his suckers and to allow Mr. Martinez to defend his scams to fortify his outsized ego. Unfortunately even the clever Mr.Martinez could not really defend such an obvious scam. It’s amazing how con men try to defend themselves to their victims. What really irks me is the "God Bless" interspersed in "Isabellas" letters what a phoney. "Pastor Peter" will recite chapter and verse while he fleeces his next victim or when confronted by his past victims.
The reason Mr. Martinez or "Pastor Peter" as he sometimes refers to himself, has been able to continue this Internet scam for as long as he has, is because the amounts, $97.00, that he conned you people out of is so small. Not enough for anyone to start even a small claims court action.
If I were a victim I would immediately contact the Minnesota Attorney General's Consumer fraud Division. Perhaps someone already has? Minnesota is a state that is very hard on consumer fraud. While I think 'Divine Intervention" may ultimately get Mr. Martinez certainly the Minnesota Attorney General intervening in his life will.
I hope this information will be helpful, not sure you will see your money back but perhaps you can help put Mr. Peter Martinez out of business and in jail where he belongs and save hundred if not thousands of other people from being scammed by this slippery "Christian Con Man" and the heart ache that goes along with it.
If you care to reply directly to my post my email address kieran_obrian@yahoo.com, I am looking forward to your reply Mr. Martinez or "Pastor Peter".
Sorry everyone here has had a bad experience trying to get rich without working hard. Of coarse, scams like this are designed to prey on the lazy and dumb. It's sad there is a market for this but the $97 fee is for the information and lesson you just learned. If you don't make the proper investments in life , you're not going to get it from a $97 downloaded eBOOK. In my opinion you got what you paid for. College isn't free nor is any graduate or non graduate education. The world is full of fake ministries everyday taking your money to make you feel enlightened. Today , the owner of this scamming website IS living well and STILL taking the monies. Most of you have the right information on who this person is. He's not even in Minnesota anymore but has moved his operations to a less 'taxing state'.In my opinion, he can keep doing what he does best, take your money if you're giving it away without doing your homework and actually working. Get a job if you need to make money. On these moneymaking sites , they are selling information that you are too lazy to get yourself. So, pay the $97 and get your education. If not , shut up and get to work or go to school. This 'minister' is good at what he does. He is reaping his rewards for years of scamming. Personally, I work for what I have! I would never give a guy , gal ,fake church , fake charity any of my hard earned monies. Even the scammer works! He has to design these sites set up accounts , move monies around, he does all of it himself. That is work , my friends! So, if you don't want to work with your hands or break your back like most of hard working America, then take the time and effort to come up with a scam like our nice minister did. He has daughters too, that got to eat and live well. He has alimony and luxeries to pay for too. He's working hard at scamming. It's a full time job! So, figure what interests you and find a way to earn doing it. If not, take a civil service exam, enlist in the service or go to college! You too , can be part of 'Working America'. PS , it doesn't matter what ethnicty you believe this guy is. The grammar and the stupidity of you victims , really show who are the bad ones. Stay lazy and keep getting scammed!
quote:Originally posted by CARDSHIFTER: There are 100% scams in the world. The only problem is if something is unusual or too hard for them they quickly turn to the word scam. Most people give up to easily, not just on business ideals, but everything that causes a problem in life. Maybe that's why so many people will never reach financial wealth. The common person is in a set way of thinking. Think outside the box and use your brain. The information provided in this program does work. How do I know you may ask? You may even be thinking I am a huge liar. It works because I was using the same methods to make money long before purchasing this e-book. I simply e-mailed support and told them I want a refund because her information was old news to me. You want to know what happened? I recieved an refund for $97 two days later accompanied with an e-mail thanking me for trying out the program. I don't use e-market, I make all my own graphics and websites. I will sum up the e-book your screaming scam about for you and see if you can understand this. Pay attention and read carefully.
You use services such as clickbank and the like to find e-books you can attain re-sell rights for. You write an e-mail to the owner of the e-book and propose an offer, usually splitting 50%-50% profit for selling their e-book. It is a win-win situation because you make money from information that is not your own and at the same time the publisher makes money from multiple people selling their e-book. After you have made the deal you percede to create your website, whether it be through a company such as e-market or going solo. A much easier way and less expensive is to use a basic web template. If you need a webhost for your websites, just ask me. I know the best webhost around today and trust me, their offers are the best you will ever find. Now once you have your website established you uses Google and similar marketing methods to actually get traffic. If you spend a little time familiarizing yourself with advertising the Google way you will find out that it is not as expensive as others will have you believe. You have to understand what you are doing and exactly how it works to maximize it's potential. If everthing is done correctly you should start noticing the traffic and sales. Information is huge, people are always looking for some type of information. Take advantage of it. The information on the internet is broad, you could have one site selling a beginners programing book and another site selling a cooking book. The e-book you people keep calling a scam is simply information. $97 is a little too high in my opinion but people pay it. Why? People always want information, thats why. Don't make problems harder than they really are, always approach any problem in life from many different angles and you will eventually find a way that works. Here is an idea for you who understands how the e-book works, take the information learned and tweak it to make it even better. Come up with new ideals and ways to make money and then write your own e-book and sell it. Money is not everything, but if you want more of it start working smarter.
Hey, thanks to our friendly minister! See he isn't all that bad. Here he is giving you his system in a nutshell. Thanks pastor, I mean CARDSHIFTER, I mean Isabella, I mean Katherine , awww , you know who you are!
posted March 04, 2008 12:07 PM
How many aliases does the "Matchbook Minister" Peter Martinez need? By my last count he was pretending to be Janet Strong, Katherine Scott, Isabella Totorio, and Dale Douglas. Now he is posting messages under the aliases of Cardshifter and Average Joe. It's so transparent. Is he really that stupid to keep posting messages under aliases thinking we don't know its him. This con-artist must be a high school drop out.
Given his propensity for lying, cheating and stealing and then bragging about it as he does when pretending to be "Average Joe". I predict that Pastor Peter, along with each of his aliases, will eventually end up behind bars. It just amazes me how his outsized ego prevented him from going away with his tail between his legs, after he was completely exposed on this message board for his deceptions and fraud. No he has to comes back to these fraud warning boards using an alias "Joe Average" or "Cardshifter" and post these crazy messages trying to convince people that he is "Joe Average" and that he made lots of money using Peter Martinez's credit card scam. In essence Pastor Peter is giving false testimony or touting his own fraudulent scheme. What a pathetic man. He is the type of guy who would rip-off his own mother and then blame her for being stupid! He is also the type of guy who employs God in his schemes to defraud people or to defuse victims after ripping them off. I know one place he wouldn’t still be alive in if he had cheated as many people as he cheated had cheated over the internet. New York City!.
If you read through the lines of his "Average Joe" posts he is actually bragging about how he ripped everyone off and that he is still doing so but is now doing so in a "tax free" state. This is probably because he was chased out of Minnesota or is being investigated or pursued by authorities there. Ironically "Average Joe" lists his location as being in Orlando, Florida in his profile. A place where many cheats run to live and where there is no state tax. It is also ironic that "Average Joe" posted his two posts on the same day he joined the message board. Like I said Peter Martinez isn't as smart as the average Joe. Gee, I wonder how Average Joe knows so much about the "Matchbook Ministers" recent movements and activities?
Can you believe that this guy is the father of four children. Imagine what pearls of wisdom and morality he has imparted in his off-spring. I pity his children. I can't imagine how his wife has dealt with being married to this lying psycho cheat .
I look forward to hearing from Peter Martinez, or Average Joe, or Issabella, Cardshifter through any subsequent posts.
quote:Originally posted by AverageJoe: Sorry everyone here has had a bad experience trying to get rich without working hard. Of coarse, scams like this are designed to prey on the lazy and dumb. It's sad there is a market for this but the $97 fee is for the information and lesson you just learned. If you don't make the proper investments in life , you're not going to get it from a $97 downloaded eBOOK. In my opinion you got what you paid for. College isn't free nor is any graduate or non graduate education. The world is full of fake ministries everyday taking your money to make you feel enlightened. Today , the owner of this scamming website IS living well and STILL taking the monies. Most of you have the right information on who this person is. He's not even in Minnesota anymore but has moved his operations to a less 'taxing state'.In my opinion, he can keep doing what he does best, take your money if you're giving it away without doing your homework and actually working. Get a job if you need to make money. On these moneymaking sites , they are selling information that you are too lazy to get yourself. So, pay the $97 and get your education. If not , shut up and get to work or go to school. This 'minister' is good at what he does. He is reaping his rewards for years of scamming. Personally, I work for what I have! I would never give a guy , gal ,fake church , fake charity any of my hard earned monies. Even the scammer works! He has to design these sites set up accounts , move monies around, he does all of it himself. That is work , my friends! So, if you don't want to work with your hands or break your back like most of hard working America, then take the time and effort to come up with a scam like our nice minister did. He has daughters too, that got to eat and live well. He has alimony and luxeries to pay for too. He's working hard at scamming. It's a full time job! So, figure what interests you and find a way to earn doing it. If not, take a civil service exam, enlist in the service or go to college! You too , can be part of 'Working America'. PS , it doesn't matter what ethnicty you believe this guy is. The grammar and the stupidity of you victims , really show who are the bad ones. Stay lazy and keep getting scammed!
How many aliases does the "Matchbook Minister" Peter Martinez need? By my last count he was pretending to be Janet Strong, Katherine Scott, Isabella Totorio, and Dale Douglas. Now he is posting messages under the aliases of Cardshifter and Average Joe. It's so transparent. Is he really that stupid to keep posting messages under aliases thinking we don't know its him. This con-artist must be a high school drop out.
Given his propensity for lying, cheating and stealing and then bragging about it as he does when pretending to be "Average Joe". I predict that Pastor Peter, along with each of his aliases, will eventually end up behind bars. It just amazes me how his outsized ego prevented him from going away with his tail between his legs, after he was completely exposed on this message board for his deceptions and fraud. No he has to comes back to these fraud warning boards using an alias "Joe Average" or "Cardshifter" and post these crazy messages trying to convince people that he is "Joe Average" and that he made lots of money using Peter Martinez's credit card scam. In essence Pastor Peter is giving false testimony or touting his own fraudulent scheme. What a pathetic man. He is the type of guy who would rip-off his own mother and then blame her for being stupid! He is also the type of guy who employs God in his schemes to defraud people or to defuse victims after ripping them off. I know one place he wouldn’t still be alive in if he had cheated as many people as he cheated had cheated over the internet. New York City!.
If you read through the lines of his "Average Joe" posts he is actually bragging about how he ripped everyone off and that he is still doing so but is now doing so in a "tax free" state. This is probably because he was chased out of Minnesota or is being investigated or pursued by authorities there. Ironically "Average Joe" lists his location as being in Orlando, Florida in his profile. A place where many cheats run to live and where there is no state tax. It is also ironic that "Average Joe" posted his two posts on the same day he joined the message board. Like I said Peter Martinez isn't as smart as the average Joe. Gee, I wonder how Average Joe knows so much about the "Matchbook Ministers" recent movements and activities?
Can you believe that this guy is the father of four children. Imagine what pearls of wisdom and morality he has imparted in his off-spring. I pity his children. I can't imagine how his wife has dealt with being married to this lying psycho cheat .
I look forward to hearing from Peter Martinez, or Average Joe, or Issabella, Cardshifter through any subsequent posts.
quote:Originally posted by AverageJoe: Sorry everyone here has had a bad experience trying to get rich without working hard. Of coarse, scams like this are designed to prey on the lazy and dumb. It's sad there is a market for this but the $97 fee is for the information and lesson you just learned. If you don't make the proper investments in life , you're not going to get it from a $97 downloaded eBOOK. In my opinion you got what you paid for. College isn't free nor is any graduate or non graduate education. The world is full of fake ministries everyday taking your money to make you feel enlightened. Today , the owner of this scamming website IS living well and STILL taking the monies. Most of you have the right information on who this person is. He's not even in Minnesota anymore but has moved his operations to a less 'taxing state'.In my opinion, he can keep doing what he does best, take your money if you're giving it away without doing your homework and actually working. Get a job if you need to make money. On these moneymaking sites , they are selling information that you are too lazy to get yourself. So, pay the $97 and get your education. If not , shut up and get to work or go to school. This 'minister' is good at what he does. He is reaping his rewards for years of scamming. Personally, I work for what I have! I would never give a guy , gal ,fake church , fake charity any of my hard earned monies. Even the scammer works! He has to design these sites set up accounts , move monies around, he does all of it himself. That is work , my friends! So, if you don't want to work with your hands or break your back like most of hard working America, then take the time and effort to come up with a scam like our nice minister did. He has daughters too, that got to eat and live well. He has alimony and luxeries to pay for too. He's working hard at scamming. It's a full time job! So, figure what interests you and find a way to earn doing it. If not, take a civil service exam, enlist in the service or go to college! You too , can be part of 'Working America'. PS , it doesn't matter what ethnicty you believe this guy is. The grammar and the stupidity of you victims , really show who are the bad ones. Stay lazy and keep getting scammed!
How many aliases does the "Matchbook Minister" Peter Martinez need? By my last count he was pretending to be Janet Strong, Katherine Scott, Isabella Totorio, and Dale Douglas. Now he is posting messages under the aliases of Cardshifter and Average Joe. It's so transparent. Is he really that stupid to keep posting messages under aliases thinking we don't know its him. This con-artist must be a high school drop out.
Given his propensity for lying, cheating and stealing and then bragging about it as he does when pretending to be "Average Joe". I predict that Pastor Peter, along with each of his aliases, will eventually end up behind bars. It just amazes me how his outsized ego prevented him from going away with his tail between his legs, after he was completely exposed on this message board for his deceptions and fraud. No he has to comes back to these fraud warning boards using an alias "Joe Average" or "Cardshifter" and post these crazy messages trying to convince people that he is "Joe Average" and that he made lots of money using Peter Martinez's credit card scam. In essence Pastor Peter is giving false testimony or touting his own fraudulent scheme. What a pathetic man. He is the type of guy who would rip-off his own mother and then blame her for being stupid! He is also the type of guy who employs God in his schemes to defraud people or to defuse victims after ripping them off. I know one place he wouldn’t still be alive in if he had cheated as many people as he cheated had cheated over the internet. New York City!.
If you read through the lines of his "Average Joe" posts he is actually bragging about how he ripped everyone off and that he is still doing so but is now doing so in a "tax free" state. This is probably because he was chased out of Minnesota or is being investigated or pursued by authorities there. Ironically "Average Joe" lists his location as being in Orlando, Florida in his profile. A place where many cheats run to live and where there is no state tax. It is also ironic that "Average Joe" posted his two posts on the same day he joined the message board. Like I said Peter Martinez isn't as smart as the average Joe. Gee, I wonder how Average Joe knows so much about the "Matchbook Ministers" recent movements and activities?
Can you believe that this guy is the father of four children. Imagine what pearls of wisdom and morality he has imparted in his off-spring. I pity his children. I can't imagine how his wife has dealt with being married to this lying psycho cheat .
I look forward to hearing from Peter Martinez, or Average Joe, or Issabella, Cardshifter through any subsequent posts.
quote:Originally posted by AverageJoe: Sorry everyone here has had a bad experience trying to get rich without working hard. Of coarse, scams like this are designed to prey on the lazy and dumb. It's sad there is a market for this but the $97 fee is for the information and lesson you just learned. If you don't make the proper investments in life , you're not going to get it from a $97 downloaded eBOOK. In my opinion you got what you paid for. College isn't free nor is any graduate or non graduate education. The world is full of fake ministries everyday taking your money to make you feel enlightened. Today , the owner of this scamming website IS living well and STILL taking the monies. Most of you have the right information on who this person is. He's not even in Minnesota anymore but has moved his operations to a less 'taxing state'.In my opinion, he can keep doing what he does best, take your money if you're giving it away without doing your homework and actually working. Get a job if you need to make money. On these moneymaking sites , they are selling information that you are too lazy to get yourself. So, pay the $97 and get your education. If not , shut up and get to work or go to school. This 'minister' is good at what he does. He is reaping his rewards for years of scamming. Personally, I work for what I have! I would never give a guy , gal ,fake church , fake charity any of my hard earned monies. Even the scammer works! He has to design these sites set up accounts , move monies around, he does all of it himself. That is work , my friends! So, if you don't want to work with your hands or break your back like most of hard working America, then take the time and effort to come up with a scam like our nice minister did. He has daughters too, that got to eat and live well. He has alimony and luxeries to pay for too. He's working hard at scamming. It's a full time job! So, figure what interests you and find a way to earn doing it. If not, take a civil service exam, enlist in the service or go to college! You too , can be part of 'Working America'. PS , it doesn't matter what ethnicty you believe this guy is. The grammar and the stupidity of you victims , really show who are the bad ones. Stay lazy and keep getting scammed!
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posted August 09, 2005 02:41 PM
