posted October 03, 2005 03:04 PM
I have read and done enough research for Liberty League, EPI. I was with Eventis first. The PRoduct was good but no marketing tools that can be duplicated by others. I chose the Prosperity Automated Network. I do not have to talk to non qualified prospects. The information is presented to them on my website and they can make decisons if it is for them. Right now I am with Coastal Vacations and that is what I promote through the PAS system. They do advertise for you but again you never know if you have sale or not. You just have to have traffic to your site. I do not like to push people into buying things. Thank you for letting me share.
I mentioned before about the Prosperity Automated Network. I think the problem why people fail is the lack of marketing skills, sales skills. That is why I use PAS System. We like to blaim the company but the problem is in us. We all want to make money but we do not train ourselves to be succesful. I want to ask everyone a question, "Did you attend high school or college?" I am sure you did. You went through learning process. The business requires to go through it as well. However in our busy schedules we do not have time to be trained or we have very little. I know a lot of people who have been with EPI and LLI and Eventis and very happy. They found what they liked. They found the right methods to market the business. I found it with PAS. Check it out if you want to and let me know your thoughts www.onlinecashsystem.info
posted October 05, 2005 10:50 PM
Hi. Yes, Liberty League is for real. Like any job it takes dedication and effort. If you are willing to work hard and set goals, this is for you. It comes with great benefit. Time at home, set your own hours and potential to make 6 and 7 figure income. My soon to be husband and I just recently got started with Liberty League and the help is there, they do not leave you to do it on your own. If you are ready to take control of your life, your job, your money and are serious about making money, call us and we will guide you and help you along the way to get your business started. 269-757-2737 Daniel and Teresa Hrab Ready to help you get started.
posted October 24, 2005 11:44 PM
I want to tell people the truth about Liberty League, Eventis, Coastal Vacations, Advantage Conferences and other similar programs because there is so much negative being told on the Internet. They are good companies, but they are not for everyone. They are legitimate businesses and they require effort and a lot of time to build. I took a good look at all two up programs like Liberty League, Emerald Passport. All these programs are not designed for a regular business opportunity seeker who only has 100 dollars or a little more to spend. They are for people who already have 5-6 figure income every month but want to walk away from the corporate world or just want an additional income. They have set aside the money to start the business. Even then, when they pay start up costs, which can range from 1495 to 14000 dollars to get in, they still have to advertise the business unless they know what to do. Advertising is hard and we can all lose money. We are not salespeople who are trained to do their job. We are mothers and fathers who have families, responsibilities and we do want to learn how to become a good salesperson and marketer, but we do not have time or patience in many cases. I am not a salesperson and I hate selling. The problem that networkers face is lack of knowledge how to market home business.
I think that EPI and LLI are decent companies. They are not MLM companies. They remind traditional business. You sell the product and you get commisions right away. A lot of us get used to MLM companies with vitamins, weight loss products, telecom services and when we see something different we panic. Times change and people change. New companies are born with new products, services. The companies like LLI and EPI market educational products that give us education which we do not receive in college or high school.
Everybody is different and I had to go different route. I choose PAS system and it allows any business builder to advertise the business. If you look at PAS, people will think it is good to be true. The reality is I do not have 30-40 hours a week to build a business. I only have 20 or less. I have to choose what is best for me. My advice is to believe in the product,company. People are negative when they fail at something. If you think you can do business with LLI, go for it. If you need financial education, go with Eventis or EPI. Choose a company based on the integrity of the management, product and payplan. Crooks will be everywhere and you cannot trust everything somebody says. You have to do your research and find the right sponsor. www.weclosealldeals.com Call me with any questions. Tatyana Gann www.onlinecashsystem.info
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posted November 16, 2005 11:43 AM
I've read through all of these posts -- can someone please explain to me how these companies are not pyramid schemes!! You recruit members who recruit members who recruit members. Sounds like scams to me.
quote:Originally posted by watchdog: Here is the truth regarding Liberty League International. #1 The company is breaking business opportunity laws in 23 states. That means that they can't charge over $500 for one item ($200 for South Dakota) for a business opportunity, unless the company registers with the state and puts up a bond. Liberty League International is currently under investigation in the state of South Dakota because one of their reps was telling people "they had to buy the $1495 "beyond freedom" in order to do the business. That's not true. You don't have to buy any product to do this business. I believe it cost close to $45 to simply join. However, if you do buy the self improvement course it will cost you $1495. $1000 of that goes to the independent business owner, and the rest gets forwarded on to the company. Here is the problem. You are competing against every other Liberty League owner and the real money isn't in "Beyond Freedom", its in selling the Liberty League Confrences that go for $8,000-13,000 a pop. In essence, you are selling overpriced seminars, that are illegal in 23 states. The good news is there are 27 other states where someone could work their business. However, I would be cautious of any company that sells on the notion of getting rich quick. I would also be cautious of any company that encourages people to do "anything" to get to the next level. Do they tell you to sell you car? How about taking a second Mortage? How about maxing out your credit cards? It's not like we're talking $200 here. I would encourage everyone to read Robert Allen's "Multiple Streams Of Income". It lays out in very simple details why MLM is a solid business, and why you don't get rich overnight. Liberty League on the other hand thrives off of "not" being MLM. They claim that MLM is a good thing, however it takes alot of time and energy to ever make money in the business. Last time I checked, it takes time and energy to EVER become successful at anything. I'm sure this post will get all the Liberty League business owners all up in arms. I'm just trying to say do a business that reflects who you are, not what reflects the wallets of a few unknown people on the net. P.S. I felt like leaving my web page here like the others to help recruit people in my business. However, I felt it was a little unethical *given the topic and the place*
posted November 17, 2005 02:56 PM
Thank you for this information. Today, I went to http://got-a-life.biz and spoke with a nice lady by the name of Terry Roberts, mother of 6 with an amazing income. I'm tempted to invest in LL, but have been researching on the Net and have serious concerns now. Can you e-mail me anything else you know about Liberty League? Furthermore, I have no idea how to find out if this is legal in Canada (where I am). How does anyone really define an MLM? This looks awfully MLM-ish to me. Thanks.
quote:Originally posted by watchdog: Here is the truth regarding Liberty League International. #1 The company is breaking business opportunity laws in 23 states. That means that they can't charge over $500 for one item ($200 for South Dakota) for a business opportunity, unless the company registers with the state and puts up a bond. Liberty League International is currently under investigation in the state of South Dakota because one of their reps was telling people "they had to buy the $1495 "beyond freedom" in order to do the business. That's not true. You don't have to buy any product to do this business. I believe it cost close to $45 to simply join. However, if you do buy the self improvement course it will cost you $1495. $1000 of that goes to the independent business owner, and the rest gets forwarded on to the company. Here is the problem. You are competing against every other Liberty League owner and the real money isn't in "Beyond Freedom", its in selling the Liberty League Confrences that go for $8,000-13,000 a pop. In essence, you are selling overpriced seminars, that are illegal in 23 states. The good news is there are 27 other states where someone could work their business. However, I would be cautious of any company that sells on the notion of getting rich quick. I would also be cautious of any company that encourages people to do "anything" to get to the next level. Do they tell you to sell you car? How about taking a second Mortage? How about maxing out your credit cards? It's not like we're talking $200 here. I would encourage everyone to read Robert Allen's "Multiple Streams Of Income". It lays out in very simple details why MLM is a solid business, and why you don't get rich overnight. Liberty League on the other hand thrives off of "not" being MLM. They claim that MLM is a good thing, however it takes alot of time and energy to ever make money in the business. Last time I checked, it takes time and energy to EVER become successful at anything. I'm sure this post will get all the Liberty League business owners all up in arms. I'm just trying to say do a business that reflects who you are, not what reflects the wallets of a few unknown people on the net. P.S. I felt like leaving my web page here like the others to help recruit people in my business. However, I felt it was a little unethical *given the topic and the place*
posted November 17, 2005 03:00 PM
Thank you for this information. Today, I went to http://got-a-life.biz and spoke with a nice lady by the name of Terry Roberts, mother of 6 with an amazing income. I'm tempted to invest in LL, but have been researching on the Net and have serious concerns now. Can you e-mail me anything else you know about Liberty League? Furthermore, I have no idea how to find out if this is legal in Canada (where I am). How does anyone really define an MLM? This looks awfully MLM-ish to me. Thanks.
quote:Originally posted by watchdog: Here is the truth regarding Liberty League International. #1 The company is breaking business opportunity laws in 23 states. That means that they can't charge over $500 for one item ($200 for South Dakota) for a business opportunity, unless the company registers with the state and puts up a bond. Liberty League International is currently under investigation in the state of South Dakota because one of their reps was telling people "they had to buy the $1495 "beyond freedom" in order to do the business. That's not true. You don't have to buy any product to do this business. I believe it cost close to $45 to simply join. However, if you do buy the self improvement course it will cost you $1495. $1000 of that goes to the independent business owner, and the rest gets forwarded on to the company. Here is the problem. You are competing against every other Liberty League owner and the real money isn't in "Beyond Freedom", its in selling the Liberty League Confrences that go for $8,000-13,000 a pop. In essence, you are selling overpriced seminars, that are illegal in 23 states. The good news is there are 27 other states where someone could work their business. However, I would be cautious of any company that sells on the notion of getting rich quick. I would also be cautious of any company that encourages people to do "anything" to get to the next level. Do they tell you to sell you car? How about taking a second Mortage? How about maxing out your credit cards? It's not like we're talking $200 here. I would encourage everyone to read Robert Allen's "Multiple Streams Of Income". It lays out in very simple details why MLM is a solid business, and why you don't get rich overnight. Liberty League on the other hand thrives off of "not" being MLM. They claim that MLM is a good thing, however it takes alot of time and energy to ever make money in the business. Last time I checked, it takes time and energy to EVER become successful at anything. I'm sure this post will get all the Liberty League business owners all up in arms. I'm just trying to say do a business that reflects who you are, not what reflects the wallets of a few unknown people on the net. P.S. I felt like leaving my web page here like the others to help recruit people in my business. However, I felt it was a little unethical *given the topic and the place*
posted November 19, 2005 05:57 PM
Hi, In MLM you are required to purchase products monthly in order to receive a commission override from the company for the efforts of your downline. You end up having to build an organization of thousands of people just to receive a small mothly commission. This can take years and alot of effort. On the other hand in Direct Sales as with LLI and EPI you are paid directly by your clients, there are no downlines and you make a large commission per transaction. Also you don't have to build and organization of hundreds of people to make a significant income. I checked out LLI and decided it wasn't for me. The start up was high and found out it invovled making alot of cold calls. I found EPI and I believe EPI is a solid company and will be around for a long, long time. It is definitely not for people who are willing to give up on themselves easily and quickly. It's a business for people who see a 6-figure, mulitple 6-figure and 7 figure income potential and are in it for the long haul. I am in it for the long haul. I say do your research and due diligence and see if it is for you or not. And if you're serious about changing your life and current circumstances and you see it's for you, get started and give yourself a chance. If not, keep looking and find what is for you and stick with.
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posted October 03, 2005 03:04 PM
