Topic: Anyone hear of Liberty League International?
shellybelly WAHM.com regular
posted March 12, 2005 07:50 AM
I checked out the website and since I am an aspiring life coach this looked like a really great company. I want to talk to someone on the ground floor to find out what their opinion is on the whole thing. Please email me about it mepperly07@aol.com
posted March 28, 2005 11:07 AM
Check them out on www.bbb.com (Better Business Bureau). Their ratings aren't so hot. I was going to go with them but after reading that decided to opt out.
posted March 28, 2005 11:12 PM
Oh my Gosh, I'm blown away that there are those who are "supposedly" making so much money with Liberty League, who have the time or feel the need to come on here daily and defend their organization. I tend to think the efforts are more toward squelching the unwanted voices of those who can speak from the other side of the Liberty League experience. My husband and I were involved (shame on us), but went another direction (a legitimate company with real products in Pre-Launch) when we realized that the percentage of people making money at LLI is disgustingly lower than what they tell you. Our sponsor told us 90% of the people he brought in were successful. If that were true figure this out...we asked him how many people he personally sponsored last month. His answer was 12. We asked him how many people people he signed on from other people (when you get on board your first two sales go to your sponsor). His answer was 2. So out of 12 people only two people were signed up by anyone other than himself. Hmmm...I read the very very long posting and all of the wonderful comparisons to building a "house of wealth". I find this absurd that they want you to believe that your real success " the roof of your house" can only be obtained by investing 12,000 into another associates pocket. I'm sorry let me correct myself. 5,000 goes to an overpriced vacation and the other 7,000 goes into another associates pocket. I personally could not stomach taking that money from someone knowing that there was greater than a 90% chance they would not see the same success. Are there people making 6 figures a month. I'm sure there are. Are there hundreds of them? Show me those people and I'll stand corrected. Today my husband and I were notified that we were officially terminated as LLI associates. We'd like to thank whomever complained. As for their warnings that we are not allowed to recruit other Liberty Leaguers to another opportunity for 12 years. Good luck in trying to stop us. We feel strongly about our position. We believe most people lose in LLI and are going to continue to try and reach as many as we can before they invest anymore money. We absolutely know there are more of you out there, who have signed up and are not seeing any success...are they telling you it's because you are not committed enough? Are they telling you that 1 out of 3 people enrolling will come in at the Summit level in order to get you to buy your Summit tickets? Are they telling you about the money they lost by not getting qualified at the Summit level right away? Anyway, please if you are in LLI and struggling or thinking about joining consider another opportunity. We have an awesome team...real support. My husband and I spend 90% of our time helping people get started, and an awesome opportunity with a company that is launching in April. Check out www.gelonfire.com or you can write me at Caryn@gelonfire.com
posted May 05, 2005 07:42 AM
Could I elaborate? How much time do you have? Let me just put aside what I THINK and talk about what I KNOW.
LLI'ers or LL Liars?
1. I know for fact that the so called live conference calls, are recorded ( if they weren't I'd be there speaking my mind, you can count on that)
2. I know for fact (because they have admitted to us on the phone) that people out there right now advertising that they have made over 100,000 a month with LLI, have not made a dime.
3. I know for fact that the reason the LLI numbers seems to stay stagnant (no growth) is that the rate of failure to success is about 98% failure to 2% success. I also know that most of the people within that elite and apparently conscience free group, sickens me every time I see their names or faces. No, I'm not a sore loser as we are very successful currently with a different and legitimate business. I'm disgusted because I talk to people every day who are bullied into thinking that somehow they are stupid for not getting a second mortgage on their house to come up with the 12,000 summit ticket.
4. I know that the training calls once you get involved "teach" you (you may in fact already believe in these tactics, in which case good for you and bad for those you pray on)to deceive people into thinking you are a millionaire. There is a difference between the idea of "living as if you are successful and therefore you will become successful) This doesn't mean you lie to people or misrepresent a set of realities in order to get them believe an opportunity is better and more of a sure thing than it is.
5. I know that we were "guaranteed" while on our 3-way before joining that if we did everything they told us, WE COULD NOT FAIL. The simple fact they guranteed us anything makes it illegal.
6. I know that a friend of mine wrote to her sponsor in regard to some of her thoughts and concerns and he wrote back and I quote "Other people's success or falure is of no consequence to myself" Nice guy.
7. I know that we prospected over 300 leads while involved with LLI and did not get a single person on board, on the otherhand with our new business we talk to maybe 5 people a day and get 1-2 of them on board. That should tell you something about the difference in opportunities as I can assure you we did not undergo some miraculous transformation that improved our ability to talk to people effectively.
I could continue and believe me I will at a later time but for now I'm going to let the LL Liars, if they dare, waste their time trying to convince you that what I've told you is not true. I'm always very amazed at how much time they spend here trying to squelch the voices of the people who know the truth. The time I spend here is for anyone about to spend their hard earned money on something that will send them into a deeper hole than one they might already be in. In summation, Liberty League and it's Liars disgust me! I would happy to talk to anyone on this topic and can be reached at 250-762-0247 or through our web site at www.gelonfire.com.
posted May 07, 2005 05:39 PM
I personally hate when I hear that LLIers are telling prospects to mortgage their houses to buy the conferences.
That is just plain wrong.
You're right about the guarantee being illegal. Because LLI'ers operate as independent contractors, you need to be careful whom you choose to get involved with. This would obviously apply to any investment also.
It's terrible that there are people who pretend to make money but who don't -- false claims are totally illegal.
But I must disagree on two points.
1) Training and mindset training is critically important. I only became successful after 2 plus years of struggling with my home business.
and
2) This type of compensation plan really works. High profit margins are essential to being able to earn a significant amount of money your first month. I earned $9000 my first month with EPI. That would NOT have been possible in a traditional MLM company like Melaleuca, for example, where I make 7% of gross sales.
But learning marketing was essential to reach that level of income. That's why I teach all of my distributors the secrets of Internet Marketing and Lead Generation for free.
I believe in adding value and helping to empower others. Make no mistake, opportunities like Liberty League and Emerald Passport International can allow an average person to earn thousands of dollars a month.
Just make sure you join with the right people -- not like your friend in point #6.
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posted March 12, 2005 07:50 AM
I was going to go with them but after reading that decided to opt out.