posted March 24, 2003 07:51 AM
Hi everyone. I have recently spoken with a rep from Inspiring Parents/Melaleuca regarding starting a home business. They offer memberships, similar to Sams Club or Costco, to buy their all-natural products. You try to get other people signed up as well & create a downline. Here is their link: http://www.melaleuca.com
Has anyone heard of this company? Do you think it is legitimate? So far, from everything I have looked at, this seems the most legitimate. But I am going to check with the BBB also. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks!
posted March 24, 2003 08:16 AM
Hi! There are two long threads about this here under the The Mom Team,you should read some of it and it could answer your questions about melaleuca.I was going to do this but I decided against it because I didn't like the idea of having to buy a certain amount of products every month.I'm a big dollar store fan and geta lot of things there. Well good luck and hope you have fun in whatever you chose! Karen proud Army NG wife & sahm of 2
posted March 24, 2003 11:45 AM
Mela is a legitimate company. I am not involved with them but have seen many pros and cons to starting a business through them. You will find many opinions on this company, mostly about the support teams such as Inspiring Parents.
I believe this is a newer group but you will also see many others. I personally know someone who does well, she is with Moms Win which is also a support group. However, I do believe you can become a marketing rep for Mela without becoming a member of a support group but I don't know all the details.
I would do your own in depth research and most importantly ask tons of questions. How much will you spend monthly approx? (products, phone, mail, etc). You also need to have a solid marketing plan (1-3 years) to succeed in any business. How will you market these products/business?
Just some thoughts! Best wishes in whatever you decide.
posted March 24, 2003 01:08 PM
There always seems to be a new team playing the same old game. New Team members get a new image, but offer the same BAD opportunity with a company called Melaleuca. And if you join, You'll be paying for it!! Investigate any MLM that encourages you to join so you can make a GOOD income from home or enough to quit your job, etc. You can make income from home, but it takes time, money, and a company that has a GOOD, and SOLID reputation, and one that retails a product. Not just by enrolling "memebers" that will buy product for themselves" Check out Melaleuca, ask questions, there a many women that have been misled, and it continues as these new "teams" crop up when one gets a bad reputation. IE: "The MOM Team" "momswin","momsforlife","sosteam", "stayin' home and lovin"' it "ceoparents","netwomencentral","powerwomencentral","the wealthy mom", just to name a few. And the amazing thing is, you can join as many of these teams as you like, just pay for the website and tell your prospects that "your team is different" " Our support and training is better or improved" "we don't promote Mealalueca with that group anymore, too many complaints" etc. Melaleuca, the company has allowed the explotation of many decent women, through their allowence of theses so called "teams" and I find it despicable! Do your homework* ask questions* find and ask REAL moms that actually joined these teams and lost thousands! http://www.bizymoms.com ( avoid the scams) There are many threads there. Also, http://www.friendsinbusiness.com Many there as well, or post a question at this board. http://www.pyramidschemealert.org
Best of luck to you! ~Robin PS Being a memeber of the BBB, chamber of commerce, or DSA isn't always the best way to find a good company.
posted March 24, 2003 10:50 PM
I think that it's a big misconception that they are fee-based membership like Sam's Club. Sam's Club doesn't make you buy a certain amount of products each month to get your discount.
Also, these products are not all-natural. I get so upset when I see products advertised as "all-natural" when they have a long list of chemical ingredients.
Take the advice of the successful women here that have had their experiences with Melalueca. They really know what they are talking about!
------------------ ~Kara Kelso~
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posted March 25, 2003 12:15 PM
I usually stay out of the Mela threads because they drive me insane.
Yes, I am a member of Inspiring Parents and Melaleuca and I am proud of that fact. I have tried many companies and Mela has been the best to date. I LOVE the products and I have no problem meeting my minimums each month and I have a SMALL family (myself and two DDs, ages 5 and 4) NO ONE LIED TO ME. This group is extremely honest and we make sure that everyone has all of the facts, including asking people to quit that are getting back up orders because they obviously are not interested in the business opportunity or the products. The team support available with Inspiring Parents is awesome. The group was started by a women with a very respectable web following and she will NOT let her reputation be put in jeopardy. Besides her involvement, we have several other ladies with large web profiles with the same integrity.
My final word on this that not all groups are the same. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me off of this list.
Lori
------------------ Lori Inspiring Parents
Parents needed to join InspiringParents.com No Inventory* No home parties * Work from home in your jammies! http://www.inspiringparents.com/lori
posted March 25, 2003 12:54 PM
No disrespect to you, Lori, as I know you believe in what you are doing....however this is another site that is not upfront about who they are, what they are advertising or what products they are selling. They are using an emotional appeal as a come-on with no real information.
It's a business and people have the right to disclosure.
This particular marketing plan is a difficult one to be successful at and require mandantory purchases to be successful.
Binary/Unilevel are versions of Matrix and probably the hardest to make work.
Binary is a system where you have only two first level legs (you can only sponsor two personal recruits and everyone else is under them. Everyone is paid on the amount of volume sales at the same rate but both legs have to fill up to make it work. This is why MOM Team is successful for those at the top and why there is forced buying (legal or not)
The top of the leg receives compensation on all the downline volume in the two legs. However if one leg is more profitable than the other, you get paid on the lesser one. So if you have one first level leg producing $100,000 month and one producing $1,000 month, guess which one you get paid for.
Matrix plans can be difficult to work for the average person. But if you know how to build recruits in both legs while forcing buying it can be profitable--but borderline illegal.
posted March 25, 2003 02:20 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hanalra: [B]I usually stay out of the Mela threads because they drive me insane.
"Yes, I am a member of Inspiring Parents and Melaleuca and I am proud of that fact. I have tried many companies and Mela has been the best to date. I LOVE the products and I have no problem meeting my minimums each month and I have a SMALL family (myself and two DDs, ages 5 and 4)"
Hi Lori, I've said this before, than you are one of the lucky ones. Many women can't meet a forced monthly purchase of anywhere form $60. on up. Many women including myself were told that "the products pay for themselves" or "you buy these products somewhere else anyway" or worse "did you know that you are poisoning your family ?" There a plenty of products that people can use that are just as safe if not safer than what is manufactured by Melaleuca.
"NO ONE LIED TO ME. This group is extremely honest and we make sure that everyone has all of the facts, including asking people to quit that are getting back up orders because they obviously are not interested in the business opportunity or the products."
Again, if the parent company, Melaleuca, would take responsibilty for their company,and enforce rules, and be up front with people from the begining, people wouldn't have to even chance being lucky enough to have signed up with "a good team" And I'm sorry, but asking people to quit if they get back up orders???? Why, because they only equal 35 basepoints and there is not as much money to be made off of them? Maybe they're getting back up orders because they can't afford it in the first place? So why did they join? Were they "convinced to give it a try?", or were some of the reasons I mentioned above told to these people?
" The team support available with Inspiring Parents is awesome. The group was started by a women with a very respectable web following and she will NOT let her reputation be put in jeopardy. Besides her involvement, we have several other ladies with large web profiles with the same integrity."
I think a lot of people that are involved with Melaleuca are missing the point. This company thrives on the misfortune of others, and there is NO integrity in that.
"My final word on this that not all groups are the same. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me off of this list."
posted March 25, 2003 03:58 PM
just a note: all-natural isn't really the right word. i have looked into a lot of non toxic cleaning products and the truth is that i have not found a single line that has NO chemicals and NO detergents. what they are is more environmentally friendly than what you could buy in a grocery store or store like walmart.
personally i like the company and their products. i have had absolutely no bad experiences with either. i have been a customer for almost a year and a half now.
posted March 25, 2003 10:07 PM
HI I just signed up with the MomTeam they are also involved with Melaleuca. So far I have nothing to complain about, I just got my first box of products if you want just email me and I will get back to you on how they work out. I bought vitamins, stain pretreater (baby clothes), samples of face care products, mens aftershave lotion and mens shaving gel. Hope this helps. Good luck, I think you should at least give it a try so you will know. Email me anytime.
quote:Originally posted by imkaitlynsmum: HI I just signed up with the MomTeam they are also involved with Melaleuca. So far I have nothing to complain about, I just got my first box of products if you want just email me and I will get back to you on how they work out. I bought vitamins, stain pretreater (baby clothes), samples of face care products, mens aftershave lotion and mens shaving gel. Hope this helps. Good luck, I think you should at least give it a try so you will know. Email me anytime.
posted March 26, 2003 11:34 AM
I thought I would try to answer some of the issues brought up.
"however this is another site that is not upfront about who they are, what they are advertising or what products they are selling. They are using an emotional appeal as a come-on with no real information."
--this is following Mela's rules in order to protect the company. Inspiring Parents discloses exactly who we are the very first time we call. Although the specific products are not mentioned, getting rid of toxic products, etc are mentioned. Again this is in compliance with Mela rules.
In some instances, people say that Mela doesn't make sure individual teams follow the rules, but when we do, you don't like that either. You can't have it both ways.
"Binary/Unilevel are versions of Matrix and probably the hardest to make work."
--Interesting. You obviously haven't looked into Melaleuca before. We are not a binary plan but a 5 x 7 Matrix.
"This is why MOM Team is successful for those at the top and why there is forced buying (legal or not)"
--Not true. My enroller (the founder of IP) has already achieved (if not surpassed) the level of the person above her. There are many expamples of people in the company that are doing better than the people above them.
------------------ Lori Inspiring Parents
Parents needed to join InspiringParents.com No Inventory* No home parties * Work from home in your jammies! http://www.inspiringparents.com/lori
posted March 26, 2003 11:46 AM
in reply to AFTERmom2
"Many women can't meet a forced monthly purchase of anywhere form $60. on up. Many women including myself were told that "the products pay for themselves" or "you buy these products somewhere else anyway" or worse "did you know that you are poisoning your family ?" There a plenty of products that people can use that are just as safe if not safer than what is manufactured by Melaleuca."
--I am sorry you weren't told everything. Your problem is with your enroller, not the company. Everyone choses where they purchase their products. I keep close track of my expenses and I haven't put out any more now than I did before Mela. All businesses have expenses, I knew this before I got started. I use my business expenses as a tax deduction, in the long run saving more money. I CHOOSE to purchase my products from Melaleuca. I have researched the products and I have found them to be better than what I can buy at the store, but research and be interpreted anyway you want. Isn't it great that in this country we can all choose from several brands to purchase from.
"And I'm sorry, but asking people to quit if they get back up orders???? Why, because they only equal 35 basepoints and there is not as much money to be made off of them? Maybe they're getting back up orders because they can't afford it in the first place? So why did they join? Were they "convinced to give it a try?", or were some of the reasons I mentioned above told to these people?"
--I can't answer why people join and then don't follow up as people do lots of strange things. It has nothing to do with making money but keeping the unhappy people to a minimum. If a box of stuff that you didn't pick shows up on your front door and your credit card is charged, you are probably not going to be happy. You are obviously not interested in the products (or you would have chosen what to buy) or the business. Inspiring Parents doesn't want to have people unhappy people. We want people that want to be a part of us. No pressure take it or leave it. As for getting back up orders because you can't afford it, then they shouldn't have been trying to build a home business in the first place. Before someone signs up with IP/Mela, we tell them about the back up order and that we don't want them to get any surprises. We help them place their first order so that this doesn't happen and we send reminders to the group to place their order so that back up orders don't happen.
"This company thrives on the misfortune of others, and there is NO integrity in that."
--You are confusing the individual groups with the company which is NOT fair. Other groups may thrive on the misfortune of others but I have not seen that with Inspiring Parents. I can't comment on other organizations.
posted March 26, 2003 11:54 AM
"Well, if you are "lucky" enough to make it in this company, I hope you keep us posted. And when Melaleuca can adhere to these petitions, then maybe "integrity" will have something to do with it at last! "
I would be happy to report on how I am doing with Melaleuca. In keeping with company guideline, I can't disclose actual income but I can tell you what level I am at. Robin, I think you have a copy of the business kit which will give you the income guidelines for each level.
I little back ground about myself. I was one of the first people to join with Inspiring Parents back in October. I am a single mom with 2 DDs and I work a fulltime job, plus their activities with very little social life of my own. With my limited time, I probably spend about 5-10 hours a week. My family comes first.
At this time I am a Marketing Executive III and most importantly, I am happy with my progress.
All my best!
------------------ Lori Inspiring Parents
Parents needed to join InspiringParents.com No Inventory* No home parties * Work from home in your jammies! http://www.inspiringparents.com/lori
posted March 27, 2003 01:45 AM
Time tells all tales.
quote:Originally posted by hanalra: in reply to AFTERmom2
. "This company thrives on the misfortune of others, and there is NO integrity in that."
--You are confusing the individual groups with the company which is NOT fair. Other groups may thrive on the misfortune of others but I have not seen that with Inspiring Parents. I can't comment on other organizations.
No, I am not confused. This company has NO integrity. For instance, There is no good reason that marketing reps are not given a standard company web site, which would have full disclosure about the company, it's comp plan, and REALLY explain what the Melaleuca opportunity is. In fact if every Melaleuca rep advertised the same website, then if the reps lied or made false claims, Gee I guess that would be grounds for them to be kicked out, and Melaleuca would be able to enforce standard rules and get CONTROL The "trying to protect their name" is bull pucky. And why is the focus on recruiting and not the proper ratio of retailing and recruiting?? The truth is they make more money because of all these teams and hype. Why would they want to ruin a good thing. So I am not confused, they DO thrive on the misfortune of others.
What Is A Pyramid Scheme? Pyramid Scheme Definition Used by the FTC's Expert "In generic form, a pyramid scheme is an organization in which the members obtain their monetary benefits primarily from the recruitment of new members rather than selling goods and services to the public. The main benefit of membership is the right to recruit others and to receive monetary compensation for doing so. Like any chain letter, a pyramid scheme is just a mechanism to transfer funds from one person to another…"
The harm cause by a pyramid scheme may be summed up as follows: since most of the promised rewards are tied to recruitment, a situation is created in which the monetary benefits set forth by the company cannot come true for the vast majority of the participants… The resulting losses are not accidental; they are determined by the structure of a compensation plan that ties most of the promised reward to a participant’s ability to recruit others into the program. By the very nature of the recruitment pattern, earnings representations attached to a pyramid scheme must turn out to be false.
As in this example:
Don't Be Tricked: Do the Math: If the scheme involves each person recruiting just 5 others, the bottom two levels will always have about 96% of the enrollees.
1 person enrolls
5 who enroll
25 more
Like any chain letter, a pyramid scheme is just a mechanism to transfer funds from one person to another.
31 are now enrolled in total. The bottom two levels contain 30 of the 31, or 96%. If the plan continues, the bottom 25 enroll
125 more who enroll
625 more who enroll
3125 more
3,906 are now enrolled in total. The bottom two levels now contain 3,750, or 96% of the total. This formula remains true as the schemes continue.
The promised incomes and "opportunity" can come only by having enrolled several levels below you. But those in the bottom two levels -- about 96% of the total -- can never gain the rewards, unless the plan could continue forever. Since it can't continue forever (the 13th level requires more people than presently live on earth!), the scheme is a fraud. It is a fraud from the first day it was created.
And yes I DO understand the 5X7 matrix plan. ~Robin As a matter of fact, I still have a business kit!
OK, I understand your objection to blind sites (I don't agree with it but...). As far as the success link. It looks like a decent short explanation of the comp plan and levels of achievement.
As far as making $50,000 a month, in January there was an Executive Director whos check was for over $130,000 for the month as printed in the Leadership in Action magazine. I will admit that that is the largest monthly amount I have seen since joining although the monthly comp amounts for most corporate and executive directors listed (top 10 listed each month) have been 5 figure amounts. I realize that this is just a few people at the top, but I like having in print what is possible.
------------------ Lori Inspiring Parents
Parents needed to join InspiringParents.com No Inventory* No home parties * Work from home in your jammies! http://www.inspiringparents.com/lori
posted March 28, 2003 03:24 PM
Just a word..it's illegal to post the amount a distributor grosses without a full disclosure statement.
The disclosure statement is in your manual.
The average distributor in MLM makes under $100 a year. The attrition rate is high in this type of marketing and can be up to 90%.
There are people at the top of the chain who make money, if not it wouldn't exist. It is possible to make money. However 90% of those who become involved do not.
Blind ads are company policy and the company must be responsible for the activity of the distributors. There is no real reason for blind ads except as hype to prevent people from understanding this is MLM.
OK, I understand your objection to blind sites (I don't agree with it but...). As far as the success link. It looks like a decent short explanation of the comp plan and levels of achievement.
As far as making $50,000 a month, in January there was an Executive Director whos check was for over $130,000 for the month as printed in the Leadership in Action magazine. I will admit that that is the largest monthly amount I have seen since joining although the monthly comp amounts for most corporate and executive directors listed (top 10 listed each month) have been 5 figure amounts. I realize that this is just a few people at the top, but I like having in print what is possible.
Lori, I Have no beef with you, I'm sure that you believe in what you are doing or you wouldn't be trying it. The grim statistics are, it is near impossible for 80% at best to reach that income level. But people are seduced into believing "they can do it" After all they have a wonderful mentoring team, coaching and helping them every step of the way, while blinding you with stuff like "helping the environment" and keeping the poisons away from your baby" etc. Whose life is REALLY getting enhanced here??? When did that Exec Director join? What level of who's downline is she in? What did she do to get that much volume in her business, is it really duplicatable? Was she just an "average" member that signed up last year and just "took off"? BTW, Melaleuca loves to have in print "what's possible" it's easier to get people aboard. I haven't seen a leadership in action in almost 18 months, bet I can tell you whose still making the bucks, the same ones that were doing it in 2000,2001,2002. In the petitions that I posted above that are circulating and headed for the FTC, a lot more about this comapny would have to be disclosed, which would put a stop to al ot of this nonsense, more people wouldn't be burned. Maybe you enjoy contributing to someones "$130,000" paycheck, but I don't. It's all those below the top two levels, like YOU that are paying for it. They are laughing all the way to the bank. ~Robin
posted April 02, 2003 04:38 PM
I never get involved in these cause I can tell there are some very bitter feelings here. I know there are some ladies out there on a mission to destroy the moms team or whoever that works with mela. Alot of what is said is not true. The advertising is just that an ad! It gets your interest and then they call you and give you ALL the details. Mela does enforce their rules, they say not to mention their name in the ad because they don't want people to make prejudgements against them. I mean come on just because some of you had a bad time with the group doesn't mean you need to be on a mission to send then to hell in a handbasket. A lot of people have done great and I mean not just those at the top. I make some money and I can tell you that the products improved our lives. Say whatever you want but don't tell people a view based on bitter feelings. I know that you may have felt betrayed but let that go and move on with your life. I know all you guys survived some bad opps but now you are doing better right? Enjoy your success and let others decide for themselves. Don't make a decision for someone else based on experience just let it go make a great at home biz for yourself.
quote:Originally posted by stayinathome: I never get involved in these cause I can tell there are some very bitter feelings here. I know there are some ladies out there on a mission to destroy the moms team or whoever that works with mela. Alot of what is said is not true. The advertising is just that an ad! It gets your interest and then they call you and give you ALL the details. Mela does enforce their rules, they say not to mention their name in the ad because they don't want people to make prejudgements against them. I mean come on just because some of you had a bad time with the group doesn't mean you need to be on a mission to send then to hell in a handbasket. A lot of people have done great and I mean not just those at the top. I make some money and I can tell you that the products improved our lives. Say whatever you want but don't tell people a view based on bitter feelings. I know that you may have felt betrayed but let that go and move on with your life. I know all you guys survived some bad opps but now you are doing better right? Enjoy your success and let others decide for themselves. Don't make a decision for someone else based on experience just let it go make a great at home biz for yourself.
God bless and success to all, charlotte
please stop deleting my ads too. Thanks alot!
I'm not sure where you get your info, but I can speak for myself. I am not on a "mission to destroy", but to make others aware of some of the deceptive practices that the company allows.
Our negative stories are true. we are each referring to our own experiences. The BLIND advertising is filled to the brim with hype,and says nothing about who the company is. It is meant to peek interest so a team can get you on the phone and go to work on your emotional side,and convince you to sign up. This you will have to explain,why would Melaleuca be worried about "prejudgements"??? If they are so forthcoming about their wonderful business opportunity???? As I said before, that's not my mission. Besides,Melaleuca and all their "teams" are doing a great job in that regard without any help from me. How long did they expect people would buy into the hype and lies???
IMHO, Melaleuca and their "teams" thrive off of the poor people that were lied to and misled.
As long as there are people asking about Melaleuca, I will share my experiences and thoughts about it. I have moved on. One thing I have learned after almost 48 years on earth is this: The minute we all start to forget, history is doomed to repeat itself. The more WAHM's share their experiences good and bad, the more educated and informed we will be. Just trying to keep the information out there for others. I do love my new found success. I don't make decisions for anyone. If someone reads my posts and quits,that's up to them. God Bless you too, thank you for the warm wishes. You'll have to ask Cheryl about your AD's, I know nothing about that Have a great One Robin
posted April 03, 2003 01:11 AM
The only ads that are deleted from the "advertising" folder are ads which don't include either the name or initials of the business in the subject line of the post.
If there are ads in any other folder they are deleted.
posted April 03, 2003 05:35 PM
<<There is no real reason for blind ads except as hype to prevent people from understanding this is MLM.>>
Here we go again........
Im not gonna hang around on this one this time Joyce, but just for the record here goes.
I use blind ads... Blind ads are used primarily for screening people. I have over 100 hits a day on my site, and I have no desire at all to speak to anyone who isnt serious. I dont want to speak to the curious, and full disclosure too early creates curiosity. Yes people get frustrated by blind web sites and blind ads. Good! They are supposed to, thats how we shake off the curious and the mildly interested.
I have what you would call a blind ad, then they visit what you would call a blind web site, and they they get sent some blind email information (if they request it). At that point they have to call me to get more information. I dont chase people, they have to come to me.
Why would I want the people in my team spending their whole day bleating on to people who are never gonna do the business, but just are professional 'information collectors'? People who spend so much time collecting information that they never get round to doing something about it? No I want my guys to spend minimum effort for maximum return.
posted April 03, 2003 07:47 PM
And why wouldn't you treat it like a legitimate business that you are proud of sharing? Women in here build their own small business sites all the time. They don't find it necessary to screen people or not show products and company information.
Blind ads are to appeal to people on a lower level, emotionally, they demean people and they talk down to them.
There is no justification for these sites and the attitude that somehow you can screen people through them is ridiculous. I know many people who would be potential recruits for MLM who wouldn't take five seconds for one of those blind ad sites. In fact I'd be willing to bet that the reason for the high attrition rate is because of them..
Joyceb
[This message has been edited by joycej (edited April 03, 2003).]
quote:Originally posted by Harlequin: <<There is no real reason for blind ads except as hype to prevent people from understanding this is MLM.>>
Here we go again........
Im not gonna hang around on this one this time Joyce, but just for the record here goes.
I use blind ads... Blind ads are used primarily for screening people. I have over 100 hits a day on my site, and I have no desire at all to speak to anyone who isnt serious. I dont want to speak to the curious, and full disclosure too early creates curiosity. Yes people get frustrated by blind web sites and blind ads. Good! They are supposed to, thats how we shake off the curious and the mildly interested.
I have what you would call a blind ad, then they visit what you would call a blind web site, and they they get sent some blind email information (if they request it). At that point they have to call me to get more information. I dont chase people, they have to come to me.
Why would I want the people in my team spending their whole day bleating on to people who are never gonna do the business, but just are professional 'information collectors'? People who spend so much time collecting information that they never get round to doing something about it? No I want my guys to spend minimum effort for maximum return.
Nuff said. Gonna dissapear again
ROFL!!!!! That is the biggest crock I have heard yet in regards to "Blind Ads" That makes NO sense! Talk about the BLIND LEADING THE BLIND ~Robin
posted April 04, 2003 07:16 AM
Blind leading the blind? ROFLMAO
Hey hey... the proofs in the check honey! That and the fact that I only have a lifestyle that enables me to drop in once every couple of months to message boards, rather than posting 20+ times a day.
quote:Originally posted by Harlequin: Blind leading the blind? ROFLMAO
Hey hey... the proofs in the check honey! That and the fact that I only have a lifestyle that enables me to drop in once every couple of months to message boards, rather than posting 20+ times a day.
Have a nice Spring!
Roll away! I don't know what "your lifestyle" has to do with anything. Generally speaking most of us WAHM's consider the networking we do here to be a very important part of working from home. "The proof is in the check"? The proof for me is in ALL the checks that TOO MANY decent and trusting women were led to believe they would get from Melaleuca. Most never did thanks to all the great information your "BLIND AD" provided. Well, it must be nice for you to be off somewhere spending their money. ~Robin
And that comment about "full disclosure creates curiosity" and you don't have time for that. Why not?? If you told everyone up front what you were doing, there would be NO Check for you, because NO ONE would sign.
posted April 04, 2003 02:14 PM
If you are to talk about how much money is made or the potential for it. Full disclosure is the law.
If there isn't time for it, that indicates more reason to do your homework before becoming involved..
People who use blind ads, are too busy to be straight with people while implying they are making sufficient income only perpatuate the hype without the reality of business.
posted May 06, 2003 07:50 PM
OMG!! I had no idea. lol Well, I guess you can say I got both sides of the fence. Well, that about covers everything I ever wondered.
posted May 07, 2003 01:05 PM
this topic always amazes me. it basically works out to this - there are some people on this board who absolutely love this company (some are in it for business and some are in it just to be a customer) and there are some who absolutely hate it.
here are some facts: 1. the company has been around for more than 15 years
other than that you just need to take whatever you hear from both sides and make a decision for yourself. i for one like the company and plan on continuing to be a customer of theirs (i have been a customer for about 1 1/2 years). if you do decide to join then make sure you join under someone who is going to be honest and upfront and help you out when you need it. which you should do with any company you decide to join.
quote:Originally posted by jenye: this topic always amazes me. it basically works out to this - there are some people on this board who absolutely love this company (some are in it for business and some are in it just to be a customer) and there are some who absolutely hate it.
here are some facts: 1. the company has been around for more than 15 years
other than that you just need to take whatever you hear from both sides and make a decision for yourself. i for one like the company and plan on continuing to be a customer of theirs (i have been a customer for about 1 1/2 years). if you do decide to join then make sure you join under someone who is going to be honest and upfront and help you out when you need it. which you should do with any company you decide to join.
Being a member of the DSA, BBB does not make a company "legitamate", and making claims to be a member in good standing with the BBB is simply untrue. There a many of us that have unresolved complaints against Melaleuca that are still open issues with the BBB. Just because Melaleuca has been in business for over 15 years is not a sign that they are an honest ethical company. IMHO, it merely shows the number of years they have been allow to scam people into their bogus business opportunity. Even if they have a product or two that is wonderful, I would never support or contribute to a company that exploits women as Melaleuca does,IMHO. A company that cares about it's integrity and moral responsibility to consumers, never leaves it up to chance that perspective customers be concerned with enrolling under someone who is "honest" and "up front". And the ones that were being dishonest would be fired. It is simply NOT acceptable. The company would take more responsibility about protecting itself and potential enrolles. When a company allows dishonset individuals to give it a bad name, and still operate within the company, one can only conclude they only care about the money. ~Robin
posted May 07, 2003 04:54 PM
Look Robin, Can we just agree to disagree? I don't think company bashing is what this site is supposed to be about. It is supposed to be about support. Everytime I or anyone else says that they like Melaleuca, the group they are with or the products, you jump us. I for one am not being made feel very welcome or supported in anyway. I think by now we all get it. You feel like you were scammed and taken advantage by The MOM Team and/or Melaleuca. You don't think anyone should have anything to do with them. Point made. Now stop attacking those of us that do like them and try supporting all of the people at this site.
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quote:Originally posted by hanalra: Look Robin, Can we just agree to disagree? I don't think company bashing is what this site is supposed to be about. It is supposed to be about support. Everytime I or anyone else says that they like Melaleuca, the group they are with or the products, you jump us. I for one am not being made feel very welcome or supported in anyway. I think by now we all get it. You feel like you were scammed and taken advantage by The MOM Team and/or Melaleuca. You don't think anyone should have anything to do with them. Point made. Now stop attacking those of us that do like them and try supporting all of the people at this site.
This is a public forum, I have every right to express my opinion about Melaleuca,and various front groups that promote them. As long as women continue to get hurt by this company, I'll be posting. Like it or not. My comment is directed at the company and the way they run the business, in my opinion. Based on fact, and experiences shared with me by other women. If you feel you should be allowed to state your opinion about how much you love this company,then I am most certainly allowed to refute. Any time opinions are expressed good or bad that is support,it makes people ask more questions and make better decisions. http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary You can always skip the forums that have topics that you don't like to read about ~Robin
posted May 08, 2003 11:43 AM
robin - i did not make any claims in my post. i did not say that any of those things make a company legitimate. i just stated some facts. and from what i read on the bbb website it sounded like whatever complaints had been filed had been resolved. i am just going by what i read.
posted May 08, 2003 11:56 AM
Jenye, I didn't say that you did. I was simply reminding people that you can't always go by the recommendations of thoses organizations. I guess we are both reporting "the facts" as we understand them. For the record,my complaint is still unresolved as are many others. ~Robin
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posted March 24, 2003 07:51 AM
or not.
I don't make decisions for anyone.