posted May 08, 2003 12:10 PM
Just to clarify this issue a little. The quarrel is not directly with Melaleuca Corp but with the predator type marketing distributor legs on the internet that use blind advertising and forced buying under the guise of helping others.
My only criticism of Melalecua Corp is that they are aware of these distributor legs and do nothing about them. They border on illegal activities according to MLM law.
Companies pay to belong to BBB and DSA--they are not policing organizations. The perception is that if they belong to BBB or DSA that is a sure sign they are legal. That is simply not true. If you have the money and wish to spend it to become a member anyone can do it.
Complaints about the MOM Team type distributor legs may not show up through the Melaleuca Corp memberships. These distributors act as Business Opportunities.
The bottom line is: There are hundreds of good, solid companies that do not resort to these tactics. Your chance of success is much better with one of them. If you join one of these questionable business opportunites you will spend too much time doing exactly this.
Defending negative press. That is time taken away from building a good solid business. Why waste your time?
posted May 09, 2003 12:24 PM
I checked with the local post office after my mom team phone call. I was told that it didnt sound alltogether legal in the state of California. so I didnt bother with it.
posted May 09, 2003 01:30 PM
robin - you may want to contact the bbb again and check to see how your complaint is being handled. when i checked it just the other day it did not reflect that there are a lot of unresolved complaints
posted May 09, 2003 02:18 PM
Thank You, I already am (along with 20 other women that sent in complaints too.) One woman had her enroller charge over $400 on her credit card to help her make her monthly quota. When she complained to Mela, they told her to call the police. I find that unbelievable, but alas it's true. I will find out where my complaint stands. Thanks again. ~Robin
quote:Originally posted by AFTERmom2: One woman had her enroller charge over $400 on her credit card to help her make her monthly quota. When she complained to Mela, they told her to call the police.
sounds like an experience i had with amazon.com. i refuse to buy anything from them because of it. my credit card company spent months and months fighting with them to get the charges off of my card.
posted May 22, 2003 11:19 PM
I CAN NOT BELIEVE This!! I have not been back to these boards in over a year, but had a few minutes free time and decided to venture back in... My GOSH!!! Nothing has changed!! This has got to be the most utterly ridiculous site on the whole internet... I agree with the poster who stated, she was glad she had better things to do with her time..Amen to that!!! I have seen more maturity in my daughter's kindergarten class!! And as for this statement...Children learn what they hear and see. Give them models to live by...All I can say is..PLEASE, keep the children away from here.. I most definetely have made my last visit!
posted May 23, 2003 12:46 PM
I have to agree with Joyce on this one. I think its wonderful that we have freedom of speach and are able to give others advice based on our own experiences and observations. I know I wouldn't want to walk blindly into a business without the advice of the seasoned veterns here.
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posted May 23, 2003 02:52 PM
These threads while at time do get out of hand, will never drive me away.
I love it here at WAHM.com.
Besides, I think my own behavior establishes my own reputation, not what someone else says about the company I believe in.
I take responsibility for my actions and my feelings.
It's me who chooses to let someone else's opinion hurt me or not.
Awareness without judgment.
I am aware that people's opinions or experiences differ from mine. There is no reason to judge. It just is.
Robin and I are finding that there are other things that we see eye-to-eye on. Our disagreement here does not affect the fact that she and I get along. We pretty much agree to disagree. (Robin...too bad too...I think we would have had fun working together. Just bumped into something else about deliberate creation...you should email me.)
I think it's all in the listening too. I try not to diminish someone's experience in order to PROVE I'm right. I have nothing to prove. My experience is mine, theirs is theirs. Neither is right. Neither is wrong. They just are.
quote:Originally posted by safeproducts4life: WOW... What can I or any other person that has half a brain say... If you didn't succeed in your business no matter if it was Mela or not maybe it was because you are in the small percentage of TOTAL IDIOTS. You are told up front about the business but I guess the few brain cells couldn't quite figure it out. DUH... yeah pull your head out of the "I feel sorry for myself" and get a life. Yes I am putting it rather bluntly and so be it. You cant handle the truth that you couldn't get your dead brain cells to understand what was being said to you so you are bashing. Well this bash is to you... IF you didn't succeed then it is your fault, you heard but you didn't want to hear. Now let go of it because honestly any homebased business is better off without "Your type" on the team.
This is the kind of ignorance I hate to see: "IF you didn't succeed then it is your fault, you heard but you didn't want to hear."
I don't know what hole you crawled out, but here on Earth, there are hundreds of people with the same report about their own Melaleuca experience.
Many, including myself, worked harder than ever before because the reward was supposed to be: ~Safer Products ~Earn good income at home ~And stay with my kids. BECOME DEBT FREE NO SELLING NO INVENTORY NO BOTHERING FRIENDS AND FAMILY and on oand on....
How dare you come and withpout knowing "our" facts tell us it's our fault. Being at fault and taking responsibiliy are two completely different things. And I am proud to say, that Many of us have taking responsibility for our poor choices, and we are not "idiots" either. One thing we ALL have in common....We like to tell something called "THE TRUTH" but you probably wouldn't know anything about that.
posted March 25, 2004 01:34 AM
Hey, I saw a marketing director II on a website tonight who's doing SO well with her Mela business that she's advertising for an illegal pyramid scheme, too. No kidding, either. Couldn't believe it.
posted June 30, 2004 02:05 AM
[QUOTE]First let me clarify what you stated about misconception, that it was like joining Cosco or Sams Club, the reason they say that, is so that people who are not savy, can grasp the idea of a membership, they never tell you that it's just like Cosco or Sams Club, you must have heard wrong, or didn't get what they were trying to tell you. The other part, where you state that they are not all natural, I don't know where you got this information, but you are totaly wrong and misinformed! Melaleuca is by far the best company I have been involved in, and I have been in quite alot of them. Before you make such harsh statements about a Company, you better get your facts well founded, and if your are saying these things because you didn't make any money, maybe you thought it was a get rich quick scheme and didn't do what it takes to make it work, like so many other people.
posted July 16, 2004 07:32 PM
I have been trying to find some kind of home based business to start. I recently had a convo with a Mela rep. I was patched in to a conference call presentation. I have used Mela prod. in the past and was seriously considering joining this company to start my home business. I accidently came across this message board and it caught my attention, so I started reading. What I have taken away from this board is that maybe I should wait and do some research myself before joining. Naturally, I do not know what Robin's experience was to make her distrust this type of "team" and this company, but she is very passionate about it. This tells me that I need to do some research of my own and maybe talk to some people from both sides of the fence. I appreciate everyones views and opinions, and wish luck to those that are members of Mela. If anyone has more info on Mela and this type of network I would appreciate hearing from them. Thank You.
posted August 06, 2004 02:09 AM
I am a customer of Melaleuca, because I really believe in the products...the fact that I get paid for referring people and get to help people build a business, doesn't hurt my feelings and I feel good helping others, sharing stories and having some good laughs. I could be a millionaire and still do this, ..because I believe in it. Go to that dollar store, refer others, dont get paid, dont build a biz. Johnson & Johnson love people like that, as do Proctor & Gamble, and Lever Bros, just to name a few. In Melaleuca a customer gets a thank you for referring others. As a matter of fact 7 households that are Melaleuca customers get paid from One family's order every month. I rarely have to go to Walmart anymore...I am saving $$ and making $$. I would be a Melaleuca customer even if they didn't share the company revenues. Don' t judge this until you have all the facts. I am a 35 year old Mom of two children, 15 and 8 years of age...I wish I would have found these Awesome and Safer products long ago, I know we would have avoided the Asthma, ADD and Allergies. C'mon Moms..really look at the facts. Here is a non-company Melaleuca website to check out. http://www.rmbarry.com and mine http://good.to/workathome, my # is (858)451-3531.. I live in San Diego and I am proud of what I do. I would love to help you build a business of your own. I know your skeptical, ..I was the same at one time, but I stopped and listened to my heart and realized any business requires committment and belief in it. That's all you need. Call me to set up a time to listen to a call..no strings, not a sales call..just the info you need to decide if the opportunity sounds like it is what your looking for. Warmly,
Barb Honor the past, Live in the present, Create the future!
I just wanted to say I was a part of The Mom Team, I'm not now, but I don't feel hurt by the team or Melaleuca. I actually did very well my first few months. I only quit because I was dealing with divorce, I just did not have the time for it, or any home biz. That was 3 years ago and to this day I still use some of Melaleucas products.
I think the important thing is to know that know matter what biz you decide on, there will be business expenses and you will have to put time and energy if you want to succeed . Good luck in whatever you do!
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quote: Hey Robin, just an observation... If you spent as much time and energy on your own business as you do blasting Melaleuca, you would probably be a millionaire by now.
I mean that in the most positive way, I swear it.
For the record - No Melaleuca affiliation here whatsoever.
Alice
LOL Alice - this IS her business. Awareness of Melaleuca and the teams' practices. I think it's great someone has made it her goal in life to save others from loosing time and money in this particular business, like so many have before her.
posted August 12, 2004 08:44 PM
This is for "Robin". Wow...I have never heard anything like this on a message board before. I agree though that if she would have put as much energy and passion into her home business as she does her "bashing"-she would probably be doing quite well. I believe that she must still be searching and maybe still unhappy about where she is in life (career wise). Why do we have to put other people down on this site for having the courage to start their own business instead of being slaves to corporate america and not being home with their kids?
posted August 12, 2004 11:27 PM
Just for the record...
Robin has found a good home business now.
She's a sharp cookie--and has done her homework. Her postings reflecting her experiences with Melaleuca are here because she feels passionately enough to want to help others NOT become involved with what she feels is a bad deal all around.
We've all had bad experiences--and have shared that bad experience with many...it helps us to heal, and if we can help others in the meantime, then that's frosting on the cake.
The Mela threads, and the postings back and forth on both sides of the fence, most likely will never go away--unless Mela does some major policy changing...and I'll bet you, if you ask some of the folks around here who have had bad experiences with Mela, I'm sure they'd be truly happy to see the policies changed.
Anyhow, I wanted to vouch for Robin's character here--step up to the plate for her, if you will--and tell you that in the conversations I've had with her, that she is an intelligent, warm, compassionate woman, and she's got a lot to give....and she IS trying to help, whether anyone likes it or not.
posted August 14, 2004 10:54 AM
Melaleuca's President sits on the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. I don't think he would be there with an illegal company - pyramids are illegal in all 50 states. It's too bad that you have had such a terrible experience, but there's a lot of people who are having a great experience! Melaleuca is a real business that takes real effort, not a get-rich scheme that does not take effort. It sounds like you have a big chip on your shoulder that you should focus on instead of spending so much time wrapped up in something that you obviously don't believe in.
posted September 13, 2004 10:22 PM
I am shocked at the blindless statements made in this group! First of all Melaleuca does not even want any marketing executive to spend money on enrolling people! This company is founded on saving money and the internet just happend! So when you decide to build a business you have a certain risk involved!
No One can tell you if you will succeed in any business venture. If you go into business for yourslef and lose money on the advertising, employess etc who are YOU going to blame?
posted September 13, 2004 10:40 PM
Most of the arguments about this company have been hashed and rehased a hundred times
The chances of making any sustantial income with this opportunity is 99.99% against.
Nearly everyone who became involved with this company and was passionate about defending it as a workable business opportunity (here) two or three years ago, are either not involved anymore at all--or occasionally buy the products they like.
The Chamber of Commerce and Better Business Bureau are paid memberships, it doesn't validify a company's distributor policies or guarantee and fair compensation plan for them
posted September 17, 2004 03:36 PM
This is my first time here. I recently joined Melaleuca. I am very skeptical when it comes to businesses on the internet. When I heard it was Melaleuca, I knew it was legit. The more I learned about the company, the more I respected it. I've been with other companies which didn't work out for me. Melaleuca does not allow advertising that make people think they will be rich overnight. I find this company very honest and upfront. I did not have to pay for information about the opportunity. I simply requested more info from the website and then I received a call. I was told right away the company was Melaleuca. All my questions I had were answered before I joined. I also watched a presentation which explained more about the company and products. Also, another thing - I like the fact that everybody that joins pays the same amount for their products.
quote:Originally posted by jewels01: This is my first time here. I recently joined Melaleuca. I am very skeptical when it comes to businesses on the internet. When I heard it was Melaleuca, I knew it was legit. The more I learned about the company, the more I respected it. I've been with other companies which didn't work out for me. Melaleuca does not allow advertising that make people think they will be rich overnight. I find this company very honest and upfront. I did not have to pay for information about the opportunity. I simply requested more info from the website and then I received a call. I was told right away the company was Melaleuca. All my questions I had were answered before I joined. I also watched a presentation which explained more about the company and products. Also, another thing - I like the fact that everybody that joins pays the same amount for their products.
Be sure and come back in the next 6 months or so and let us all know how well you are doing. I wish you all the luck in the world. It will be interesting if you would share your success story.
quote:Originally posted by happygirljlc: This is for "Robin". Wow...I have never heard anything like this on a message board before. I agree though that if she would have put as much energy and passion into her home business as she does her "bashing"-she would probably be doing quite well. I believe that she must still be searching and maybe still unhappy about where she is in life (career wise). Why do we have to put other people down on this site for having the courage to start their own business instead of being slaves to corporate america and not being home with their kids?
Wow, I hadn’t realized how long it’s been since I was here.
"I believe that she must still be searching and maybe still unhappy about where she is in life (career wise)."
I've had a wonderful career, and I still do. When I worked outside my home, I was a very successful and well thought of Project Manager, Master Scheduler and Inventory Control Planner for about 20 years. I now own a company here in El Dorado County, where I live, and it is doing very well, more importantly I LOVE what I do and make money doing it. You can’t beat that scenario.
I salute women who wish to start their own business from home. When I share my opinion and experience here, it is not meant as a "put down" to a person, I'm sorry if it comes across that way. I have no respect for Melaleuca as a company. Some of their representatives have found ways to exploit and deceive women (and men), rather than to "lead them to that road to personal and financial freedom" My opinion comes from first hand knowledge as well as networking with other women that shared the same experience that I had. I come here and speak up about those experiences. ~Best wishes
quote:Originally posted by BradleyTankGirl: Hi! There are two long threads about this here under the The Mom Team,you should read some of it and it could answer your questions about melaleuca.I was going to do this but I decided against it because I didn't like the idea of having to buy a certain amount of products every month.I'm a big dollar store fan and geta lot of things there. My name is Tia Evans. I am responding to your forum entry at WHAM. I totally respect your concern with Melaleuca. Many people have had great experiences, not so great experiences, excellent and devastating experiences. Melaleuca is for the individual who is willing to live the lifestyle. A lot of people get lost in the aspect b/c there is a commitment involved. That commitment not only means being a customer but a REPRESENTATIVE. People don’t understand that Melaleuca is not here to empty your pockets, they just want you to switch stores. Some Moms may even say that it is too expensive. Those are the Moms that try and buy everything at one time and use it against instructions. Those are the Moms that try to get rich quick from it. That is not how they work. Melaleuca is registered with the BBB, and has AAAA ratings with Dunn & Bradstreet, check them out. When you run out of something on your grocery list, right it down and try Melaleuca, 100% refundable guarantee. Melaleuca pays you back 10% of whatever you buy each month, and you get 27% from any customer you refer 7% of whatever they buy for as long as they are a customer. That even increases when you refer more. But Melaleuca is not only to run a business, but to teach people the importance of a healthier life at a cheaper price. So, try it, if you don’t like it…ask them for you money back, membership and all. Or maybe the person you are working with is not very passionate about it and has not fully explained what Melaleuca is. Please, don’t be sold, whatever you b/c Melaleuca is not for everyone. I would love for you to listen in with a professional speaker…that speaks for Melaleuca and her Experience. I can even arrange a one on one, if you like. Don’t hesitate to ask question b/c that is the only way to get them answered. Thanks!!
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posted May 08, 2003 12:10 PM
Just bumped into something else about deliberate creation...you should email me.)
